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Just What The Doctor Ordered? Ron Paul In Iowa
WeArePolitics ^ | 12/21/2011 | Bill Knowles

Posted on 12/21/2011 12:43:11 PM PST by Billlknowles

I want to preface this by stating the obvious: I am not a Ron Paul supporter. I am, however, a supporter of former Speaker Newt Gingrich. Now that I got my disclaimer out of the way I want to make comments about the Iowa Caucuses.

Over the past few weeks poll after poll have been taken in Iowa. For a while, Gingrich had a hefty lead there, but now it appears that Congressman Paul has surged to a top tier status in the Hawkeye state, even passing Romney and Gingrich in one poll. But how can this phenomenon be explained? Is it because Dr. Paul did so well in the last debates? (By most accounts, Paul came off as nutty at best.) Is it because Dr. Paul wants to end the Federal Reserve as we know it? (The common voter could care less about The Fed and probably doesn't even know it's role in the economy.) Is it because Dr. Paul has bold fresh ideas like letting Iran peacefully coexist while developing a nuclear weapon? (Yeah, that should endear him to Iowa voters.) Or is it because Dr. Paul continues to rant that the Founding Fathers would be in favor of his foreign policy? (The Founding Fathers were hardly isolationists...Thomas Jefferson was the first President to send US forces to a foreign country when he send the Navy to modern-day Libya to attack the Barbary Pirates. James Madison tried to invade Canada and he annexed parts of Western Florida that were under Spanish rule.)

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TOPICS: Iowa; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 50mmisasackofshit; 50mmisgay; billblogfart; blogpimp; blogwhore; darkwing104isapos; darkwing104isgay; iowa; newtgingrich; ronpaul; zot

1 posted on 12/21/2011 12:43:14 PM PST by Billlknowles
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To: Billlknowles

Ron Paul is not a threat at all.

He looks good in polls because lots of young people love him.

Problem is, those young folks don’t turn out the vote, so polls are meaningless.


2 posted on 12/21/2011 1:04:54 PM PST by apoxonu
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To: Billlknowles
Little insane man. Would probably be worst than King Obama since he would make America venerable to overthrow by foreign countries.
3 posted on 12/21/2011 1:07:41 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Billlknowles; humblegunner

I was going to post a comment, but since you’ve posted 27 threads without a single reply to anybody, I guess you really don’t care what we have to say.

You’re just here to feed off the traffic.

Go ahead - prove me wrong.


4 posted on 12/21/2011 1:08:08 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Billlknowles

Maybe it is the dopers who think he will legalize drugs. Do they not know he has never done anything the entire time he has been in Washington? What makes them think he will do something now?


5 posted on 12/21/2011 1:13:55 PM PST by John D
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To: shibumi

yep. And he puts it in GOP club instead of the forum for blog pimps.


6 posted on 12/21/2011 1:14:33 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: Billlknowles

Ron Paul knows that he will not be the Republican candidate, regardless of how things turn out in Iowa. (Not every state has Iowa-style caucuses where Paul’s supporters can bully the outcome.)

So why does he run?

Perhaps he is an issues candidate, hoping to simply have his opinions heard on a wider platform. I can respect that. Government is too big, the Fed is past it’s sell-by date, and while I completely disagree with his foreign policy positions, he has the right to speak out. Issues candidates are fine as long as they know when to get out and quit dividing the party.

Or maybe he doesn’t mind dividing the party and is simply trying to raise his profile before launching a third-party run. If that is the case, then he might as well switch parties and campaign for Obama right now, because pretty much any of the potential third-party plays out there will do nothing more than secure a second term for Obama and his “end of America” plans. I regularly think it would be nice to see a viable third party in American politics, but it may take a generation for something like that to take root. And Ron Paul is not the kind of visionary who can pull that off.

Perhaps he really believes he can win. If that is the case it is hard for me to see him as anything other than delusional—not the kind of trait I am looking for in a candidate.


7 posted on 12/21/2011 1:15:10 PM PST by newheart (Newt's a loose cannon, but at least he knows who the real target is.)
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To: shibumi; campaignPete R-CT

8 posted on 12/21/2011 1:19:19 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Logical me
...he would make America venerable to overthrow by foreign countries.

I believe the word you are looking for is "vulnerable." I try not to correct people's vocabulary, but this is the second time I have been confused by your use of a word that means worthy of respect or reverence. And I don't think you mean to say that Ron Paul would make America more worthy of respect from foreign countries.

9 posted on 12/21/2011 1:21:00 PM PST by newheart (Newt's a loose cannon, but at least he knows who the real target is.)
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To: Billlknowles
I am not a Ron Paul supporter. I am, however, a

Congratulations.

10 posted on 12/21/2011 1:21:59 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Billlknowles

Ron Paul is the anti-Federalist candidate..and that matches the mood of the country....

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=51109


11 posted on 12/21/2011 1:37:31 PM PST by mo
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To: apoxonu; Bill Knowles

“Ron Paul is not a threat at all.” [The GOP nod is] “a nomination that he will in no way shape or form EVER get...”

Yeah? Why so many desperation posts trying to shoot him down, then?

“Paul is racist...Paul is pro-choice...Paul is crazy...Paul is anti-American...Paul’s poll numbers are only higher because he went negative...”

Aren’t y’all tired of shooting blanks? I bet your wives are all sick of it.

Seems pretty clear y’all are wetting your pants this guy might win the Iowa caucus. Already the noise is that “Iowa doesn’t matter” and “Paul is just getting his 15 minutes.” Guess we’ll see about that in New Hampshire, since y’all have evidently ceded Iowa to him already.


12 posted on 12/21/2011 1:55:58 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Newt Gingrich, a great conservative? Before he was Speaker and had to walk the walk, sure.)
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To: Billlknowles

No. It’s a reverse Operation Chaos (”Anonymous”/DailyPOS/HuffPOS/college morons from another state), but they won’t show on caucus night.


13 posted on 12/21/2011 2:53:49 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: Billlknowles; humblegunner

Blog pimp!


14 posted on 12/21/2011 3:00:26 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: shibumi

Your wrong.


15 posted on 12/22/2011 9:25:22 AM PST by Billlknowles
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To: shibumi

Your wrong.


16 posted on 12/22/2011 9:25:32 AM PST by Billlknowles
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To: apoxonu

I agree. But the damage he is doing with his slash and burn campaign is harmful to the GOP as a whole.


17 posted on 12/22/2011 9:27:22 AM PST by Billlknowles
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To: Billlknowles; humblegunner
"Your wrong."(sic)

"Your wrong."(sic)

You're illiterate.

18 posted on 12/22/2011 10:47:58 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi; Billlknowles
You're illiterate.

He's a blogger.

It's part of the culture.

19 posted on 12/22/2011 10:54:16 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Billlknowles

20 posted on 12/22/2011 11:00:21 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

As you can see I was having computer issues...Hence the double “Your wrong”....I do know the difference between your and you’re...


21 posted on 12/22/2011 12:30:41 PM PST by Billlknowles
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