Posted on 01/10/2012 10:50:31 AM PST by Graewoulf
Ok, how sad for you that you have gone from trumpeting Paul as the best to now trumpeting Romney/Paul as the best team.
Your family must be devastated that you no longer live in the real world with them, they must miss you.
Nice...
You Paulitards are so much fun.
Ron Paul is not all that healthy if I had to guess from the tremor and slurred speech. Nevertheless, he’s 76 years old and will be 77 by election day, Lord willing.
Secondly, he didn’t have a clue about how to build the coalitions he spoke of last night for the 26 years he’s been in Congress. There’s no reason to believe he’ll suddenly learn about working with others.
His followers are openly soliciting leftists to vote for him in the primaries, as I saw them do in ‘08. They still don’t have enough backing to win.
“Thomas Jefferson did not want a Navy to start Preemptive wars with other countries.”
Iran has been at war with us for decades. Nothing preemptive about that.
Remember, the Barbary Pirates declared war un the US first. Jefferson even unilaterly authorized the overthrow of their government without Congressional authorization.
Washington personally lead an army against western Pennsylvania without Congressional approval in order to put down an insurrection many many decades before the Civil War.
John Adams fought an undeclared navel war with France.
James Madison fought the second Barbary War without a declaration of war. Congress authorized use of force like was done in Vietnam, Iraq, etc., but did not issue a declaration.
Jackson simply invaded Spanish florida.
What you think you know about the founding fathers is questionable. Learn what they DID as well as what they wrote.
The point, which you aptly demonstrate, is that too many Paul supporters bury their heads in the sand when it comes to actual American History and the real threats facing our country.
And, please, nobody disagrees with the point that Congress should be declaring war, but as a point of fact, the founding father’s actions were often at odds with Constitutional principles.
The imaginary republic you think existed, never really did.
” - - - They still dont have enough backing to win.”
Maybe not, but if Dr. Paul in Tampa is second in votes cast, would he then be a good check and balance Veep for Willy Romney?
Declarations of wars are for sending our Troops to foreign countries to invade.
You don’t need a declaration of war in your own country or if the war is at Sea. So to point out that George Washington sending some troops into Western Pennsylvania, John Adams naval war (another war at Sea), or Thomas Jefferson war with the Pirates is rubbish.
It’s even more B.S. to suggest that the founding father were ALL ABOUT being the police man of the world by preemptive war.
While it is true are last official Declaration of War was in World War II. Look at what happened to the countries we did not declare war with... All it leads to is endless wars and when we leave the country it eventually falls.
I have no problem if we are attacked to defend ourselves. However, I do not want our country to be the police man of the world.
All points aside for a minute. We can’t afford. We are going broke. Have you seen this link?
Oh, yeah, sure like Biden is a “good check and balance Veep” for Obama. GIGO counts in politics as much as anywhere.
The Marines went to the Harbor of Tripoli. They did not invade the country. That is why they say the “shores” of Tripoli.
At any rate thanks for the good reply, nice points, but I disagree with your summary.
“At any rate thanks for the good reply, nice points, but I disagree with your summary.”
Thank you for the discussion as well. I think we agree on the broad point that the United States is NOT the world’s policeman.
Cheers
Thanks for the hotlink to the National Debt Clock.
I often wonder why only Dr. Paul brings our National Debt into every speech he makes.
Maybe it is a Doctor thing? You know, recognizing sick patients (read: US Treasury).
Dr. Paul is the second best Republican vote getter. That puts him in the running to be the Nominee’s Veep.
What effect do you think Veep Candidate Paul would have on the Republican Party voting in 11-2012?
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