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Who Could Emerge As The GOP Compromise Candidate At The Convention?
Ology ^ | February 21, 2012 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 02/21/2012 12:48:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Even without a competitive Republican primary, the GOP’s presidential nominee would not have been able to lock down the required 1,144 delegates required to cinch the nomination until May. Given the trajectory of the Republican presidential race, it is more than likely that the nominating contest will go on until the summer and may even stretch all the way to the convention.

There has been a lot of talk in recent weeks about the possibility of a brokered convention where no candidate has the required delegates to secure the nomination outright. In that scenario, multiple ballots would be required by the convention delegates to determine the nominee. In that scenario, there is the not unprecedented but still unlikely possibility that the convention’s delegates could be deadlocked, forcing the party to select a compromise candidate from the list of Republicans that for one reason or another declined to run for president in 2012.

Who could emerge from the party’s compromise candidate? Despite all the talk of a weak field of candidates this year, there is a lot of GOP talent on the back bench to choose from.

Paul Ryan:

Advantages: Ryan is a young, articulate policy wonk and the head of the powerful Budget Committee. He will have authored two federal budget proposals by the time the convention rolls around and will be the focus of national debate on tax policy. Ryan hails from a swing district in a swing state and has positive favorability numbers there amidst a national campaign by unions to recall the state’s sitting Republican governor. He was the subject of a withering series of Democratic attacks for his proposed “Path to Prosperity” budget and emerged unscathed. Many Republicans would salivate over the potential for an Obama / Ryan debate.

Disadvantages: He is extremely polarizing and as the face of Republican budgetary math, would be vulnerable to the “Republicans want to hurl grandma off the cliff” argument. It is unlikely that he could deliver his light blue state in a presidential year. As a member of the House, he faces daunting historical odds of being elected directly from his present office to the White House. If he were to accomplish this feat, he would be the first to do so since James Garfield in 1880.

Chris Christie:

Advantages: the outspoken Republican governor of New Jersey was subject to an exhausting drafting effort in 2011 to run for president – he repeatedly refused, but the pro-Christie sentiment within the GOP remains strong. He backed Mitt Romney and would likely unite the pro-Romney bloc of delegates at the convention, his ability to take the rhetorical fight to Democrats would win over the Gingrich delegates and his relative lack of concern for social issues (save his recent veto of gay marriage legislation in New Jersey) would make Ron Paul’s delegates comfortable. Only Santorum’s folks would balk at Christie for his lack of sufficient commitment to “compassionate conservatism.”

Disadvantages: He is very unlikely to carry his own state; a key indicator of electoral success on the presidential level. Christie is also very polarizing and would alienate many Reagan Democrats and liberal-leaning independents. Furthermore, his unequivocal rejection of draft efforts may be overcome at the convention, but would leave lasting scars ahead of a general election. Christie may simply not be up for the grueling pace of the 10-week race to the finish line in November.

John McCain:

Advantages: If you will recall, he’s done this before. As the Republican nominee in 2008, McCain knows the pace of the general election and how to fundraise for it. McCain enjoys relatively positive favorability ratings and he will be uniquely positioned to take President Obama to task for promises made last year that he has been unable to deliver on.

Disadvantages: Remember when McCain was too old to run for president in 2008? Well, he’s four years older now. Furthermore, as a 2008 retread, he alienates the conservative base of the party that perceives Mitt Romney as being too liberal (recall, he was the conservative in the race four years ago). It is unlikely that he could survive a series of ballots at a Republican convention that where Santorum, Gingrich and Paul delegates will have a defining say is extremely limited.

Jeb Bush:

Advantages: There has been more than private speculation that the GOP could get behind Jeb Bush at the convention, one anonymous U.S. Senator told ABC News as much last week. Bush is the popular two-term governor of must-win Florida. He is bilingual and has a Puerto Rican wife and a politically active son who has a Latin American hue to his skin. Of all the declared candidates and possible compromise candidates, Bush is in the best position to capture the 40 percent of the Hispanic vote that was George W. Bush’s threshold for election in 2000.

Disadvantages: His last name. If Bush were at the top of the ticket in 2012, it would be the third such occasion in four election cycles. In fact since 1976, a Bush has been a primary candidate or on the Republican ticket in every presidential cycle but 1996 and 2008. There is no way to precisely measure Bush fatigue in the electorate but Americans are not predisposed to support political dynasties. If America were a more aristocratic culture, the Republicans would probably be seeking a nominee to challenge President Hillary Clinton today.

Sarah Palin:

Advantages: Palin has the primogenitor factor going for her – as the GOP’s vice presidential nominee, 2012 was her turn and she would be a major factor today if she had decided to run. Palin is the quintessential populist and, while she does not perform particularly well among independents, she is uniquely positioned to capture a segment of conservative Democrats dissatisfied with the president.

Disadvantages: There is no more polarizing politician on the right or left today than Palin. The fact that she was unable to capitalize on the primogenitor factor speaks volumes about her electoral chances. Her brand was substantially damaged in the intervening years between her presidential race and today. Given that she is soon to be the subject of what has to be a negative portrayal in the upcoming original HBO movie “Game Change,” her brand is soon to be subject to even more damage. Furthermore, Romney’s convention delegates would probably sooner sever a beloved digit than cast their votes for Palin.

Bobby Jindal:

Advantages: A two-term, sun-belt Republican with an Indian-American heritage, Jindal has the benefit of being able to negate Democratic identity politics (e.g. Republicans hate women, gays, Jews, blacks, the Easter Bunny and newborn kittens). Furthermore, Jindal has a great story to tell: the rebirth and growth of Louisiana after the destruction wrought by Hurricane Katrina. Jindal is also very popular among conservatives and moderates within the GOP and would emerge out of a brokered convention as fast if not faster than Jeb Bush.

Disadvantages: Jindal was one of the first and highest profile politicians to endorse Texas Gov. Rick Perry. This will allow his detractors to call his judgment into question – he can defend his position, but as a rule once you have to defend a position you’ve already lost. Furthermore, he has not had to debate national policy or be even particularly well versed on issues that transcend the borders of Louisiana. As much as they like Jindal, convention delegates would know his candidacy would be a big gamble.

John Thune:

Advantages: Thune floated a bid for the presidency in 2011 but declined early on in the process. As a multi-term Senator from South Dakota, Thune has a folksy, Midwestern demeanor about him. Furthermore, he is no radical and his stability is likely to be attractive to skittish delegates that are loath to bet their vote on an untested candidate. Thune, as an early supporter of Romney, would be the path of least resistance for convention delegates that hope to limit the length of a contested convention.

Disadvantages: Thune has represented South Dakota in Congress in some capacity since 1997 and has taken more than his share of controversial votes. This condition is compounded by the fact that he has not been a leader in Congress and has preferred to support his colleague’s legislation. Thune has a very limited national profile and can be defined by Obama’s reelection team and pro-Democratic groups relatively easily. He also supported the deeply unpopular TARP bailout legislation and has been a protector of agricultural subsidies that encounter sharp resistance outside the Heartland.

Mitch Daniels:

Advantages: A prime candidate for the presidency, Daniel’s declined to run last year (speculation surrounding his deferral surrounded his wife Cherrie’s lack of enthusiasm for the prospect of a national campaign). Daniel’s is a budget pro and a turnaround artist with a firm grasp of the wonky economic issues that will dominate the general election in 2012. He has also run a light red state that voted for Obama in 2008. Daniel’s can appeal to multiple segments of the GOP and was the first to propose that there be a “truce” on social issues in this presidential campaign as it muddies what should be the sole focus of the Republican party: the economy. Santorum’s convention delegates will balk at Daniel’s campaign, but the rest of the GOP may embrace him.

Disadvantages: Daniel’s is a soft-spoken type who is unlikely to engender much enthusiasm, even among his supporters. At the convention this could be overcome, but in a general election for the President of the United States it is the fiery politician and not the technocrat that usually carries the day. Also, as President Bush’s director of the Office of Management and Budget, Daniel’s is perilously well positioned to allow Democrats to reframe the terms of this election as a choice between Obama and a return to the Bush years. That may not worry many Republicans who see the Bush years as “the good ol’ days,” but in a general election that would likely be a profound liability.


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1 posted on 02/21/2012 12:48:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Marco Rubio. If the GOP nominates him it will be a landslide victory against Obama.


2 posted on 02/21/2012 12:50:02 PM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mitch Daniels:

Advantages: A prime candidate for the presidency, Daniel’s declined to run last year...

Good thing, too, because there was no presidential race last year...

3 posted on 02/21/2012 12:51:32 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It will not be anyone but one of the people who have devoted money, time. and energy into actually running.

A compromise would be made with those people.


4 posted on 02/21/2012 12:52:17 PM PST by dforest
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To: AtlasStalled

Now you’ve done it....birthers inbound!!!

Btw I agree with you 100%


5 posted on 02/21/2012 12:53:12 PM PST by thestob (Vote or P. Diddy will kill you)
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To: WayneS

Daniels has already said no again yesterday. Who would want to after declining to run earlier?

All that would do is cause resentment instead of making people happy.


6 posted on 02/21/2012 12:55:07 PM PST by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As if we needed any more proof that the establishment is out of touch - and we don’t - they keep floating Jeb Bush. How can they be so tone deaf? There is no way in hell anyone will accept another Bush.

Jeb is probably the best of the three, but no way we’ll ever elect another one.


7 posted on 02/21/2012 12:56:16 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: AtlasStalled
A neophyte senator, who hasn't accomplished anything, nominated solely based on his membership in a particular ethnic group? Where have we heard that story before? Hmmmmm...
8 posted on 02/21/2012 12:57:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: dforest

You are correct, any other answer is day dreaming.


9 posted on 02/21/2012 12:59:50 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thomas Sowell?

I’d vote for him.


10 posted on 02/21/2012 1:01:41 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For everyone who thinks a brokered convention is the conservative salvation, keep in mind that a moderate is more likely to emerge than someone seriously to the right. Just for a little historical perspective the last Republican candidate to come out of a brokered convention was Thomas Dewey in 1948. Remember his first term?


11 posted on 02/21/2012 1:03:29 PM PST by newheart (What this country needs is a good dose of bran. Attack Muffins Unite!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Politics, news, and opinion writers love to talk about a brokered convention because of the inherent appeal of discussing and analyzing the unknown (and because it sells).

It is the same reason sports writers like to talk about, for example, the upcoming NFL draft.

But, while there will be an NFL draft, there will not be a brokered Republican convention.

12 posted on 02/21/2012 1:03:29 PM PST by gdani
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It will be a woman—But Not Sarah Palin.


13 posted on 02/21/2012 1:05:47 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio articulates conservative values better than any other candidate I’ve heard so far.

Sure Rubio’s record is spare but all the other self-styled conservatives running have records which paint them as hypocrites since their deeds belie their words.

Santorum and Gingrich are frauds using the conservative base merely as tools in their grab for power, and don’t give a wit about any of us or our values.


14 posted on 02/21/2012 1:05:47 PM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

Santorum and Gingrich are frauds

. . . and add Romney to that list of frauds, of course.


15 posted on 02/21/2012 1:06:54 PM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: org.whodat

This silly notion is to sow continued discord and keep people from getting behind a candidate. It is a folly and it isn’t going to happen. Notice that one of the sources was Politico today. Yeah, right.

If people can’t decide amongst the people who are actually running, there isn’t going to be a candidate imposed as the nomineee who hasn’t spent one minute doing any of the work and investing of themselves to run, that includes Jeb Bush.


16 posted on 02/21/2012 1:08:27 PM PST by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A neophyte senator, who hasn't accomplished anything, nominated solely based on his membership in a particular ethnic group?

Do you seriously think that is the biggest reason so many Republicasn like him? Rubio's strength is that he articulates the conservative vision and conservative values in a way that appeals to the greatest number of Americans. There hasn't been anyone in his league in that regard since Reagan.

If there was someone else equally adept at that on the national stage, he/she would be running away with the nomination.

Personally, my choice would be Daniels, especially considering the education reforms he pushed through last year, and the Right to Work legislation that passsed this year. He's got the experience and record to challenge Obama, even if he is somewhat lacking in terms of charisma.

But heck, considering our other options at this point, I'd take Rubio over the current contenders in a heartbeat.

17 posted on 02/21/2012 1:11:19 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Fax me some of whatever you’re smoking. I worked for President Reagan, so don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.


18 posted on 02/21/2012 1:15:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Paul Ryan - I could vote for him

Chris Christie - Decent on economic issues, awful on social issues, basically a fat Mitt Romney.

John McCain - No! No and h*ll NO! I would not vote for him even if my vote decided the election. THAT is how much I hate him.

Jeb Bush - I agree with Jesse Jackson for once, Stay out da Bushes. We don't need a political dynasty in this country, especially one made of RINO's.

Sarah Palin - Would vote for her in a heartbeat, but don't think she wants it.

Bobby Jindal - I'd vote for him, although he doesn't really, as Chris Matthews put it, send a tingle up my leg.

John Thune: - Really don't know enough about him to say...

Mitch Daniels - Another establishment RINO, I'll pass.

19 posted on 02/21/2012 1:15:20 PM PST by apillar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A neophyte senator, who hasn't accomplished anything, nominated solely based on his membership in a particular ethnic group? >

I get your point, but his ethnic group is....(drum roll)...white, as in caucasian.

20 posted on 02/21/2012 1:17:01 PM PST by Salvey
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To: AtlasStalled
Rubio articulates conservative values better than any other candidate I’ve heard so far.

If you are OK with basically an Open-Borders position, you should be OK with Rubio.

On this issue, he came out against AZ1070 and has been rather weak overall.

For me, he gets no support.
21 posted on 02/21/2012 1:18:01 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

John McCain? Well, if they can go with McCain, they should also take into account that Bob Dole is still around and GHW Bush is eligible for another term.


22 posted on 02/21/2012 1:18:13 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Do you seriously think that is the biggest reason so many Republicasn like him? Rubio's strength is that he articulates the conservative vision and conservative values in a way that appeals to the greatest number of Americans. There hasn't been anyone in his league in that regard since Reagan.

Rubio is an Open-Border politician.

He came out against AZ1070.
23 posted on 02/21/2012 1:19:55 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, the mere mention of John McCain re: a brokered convention puts this fantasy concoction in the horseshit category for me. Nothing to see here....


24 posted on 02/21/2012 1:23:09 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: dforest

Yes, just another attack on conservatives to keep them divided.


25 posted on 02/21/2012 1:25:22 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't trust what could happen with a brokered convention.

Chris Christie? Absolutely not.

Jeb Bush? No.

John McCain. Are you kidding me?

26 posted on 02/21/2012 1:29:01 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: org.whodat

If you think about it, if this became the norm, nobody would ever throw their hat into the ring again. Why bother? It wouldn’t be worth the sacrifices of your family and time.

The big cheeses would always pick the candidate at the convention and that is who you get.

Geesh


27 posted on 02/21/2012 1:30:52 PM PST by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I worked for President Reagan, so don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

Big Deal. So did millions and millions of other Americans, so that doesn't give you any special status. I worked on his 1980 campaign and shook his hand. He was my C-in-C for 8 years, and I went to his funeral and walked in the Rotunda. But you didn't see me pimping that because it doesn't add any weight to the argument at all.

In any case, that has exactly zero relevance to the point I made, which was that Rubio is better at articulating the conservative message than anyone since Reagan. Had I said "including" Reagan, your self-important service in the Reagan Administration might have some relevance.

28 posted on 02/21/2012 1:37:08 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

29 posted on 02/21/2012 1:41:04 PM PST by McGruff (Think in bold colors not pale pastels.)
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To: dforest
If you think about it, if this became the norm, nobody would ever throw their hat into the ring again. Why bother? It wouldn’t be worth the sacrifices of your family and time.

How so? Any candidate who manages to amass a majority of votes by the Convention wins, and there is no contest or dispute at the Convention. That's plenty of incentive. The problem is that, at least to this point, nobody has been able to demonstrate that they can consistently get majority support.

30 posted on 02/21/2012 1:44:22 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Salvey

That’s not why he’s being pursued, and you and I know it! And being Cuban, he could be a mix of who knows how many ethnic groups.


31 posted on 02/21/2012 1:44:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does it really matter?

Regardless of which of these “options” we end up with, are we going to get a smaller government and actual “cuts” in spending and repeal of ObamunistCare and controlled borders and a reduction in the illegal population and more energy production here at home and restoration of rules of engagement that actually WIN wars?

I don’t see it in anyone on the list.


32 posted on 02/21/2012 2:11:26 PM PST by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Rubio indeed is by far the best on that list.


33 posted on 02/21/2012 2:15:21 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Yes, he was my Commander-in-Chief, but that’s not what I meant. I actually worked for him, on a day-to-day basis, so please don’t try to say that Senator Rubio is the new Reagan, because he’s not. Maybe 15 years from now, but today? Not even close. If anyone in this generation is the new Reagan, it’s Governor Sarah Palin, but I don’t make that statement because she’s not nearly there yet. But she’s much closer than Sen. Rubio, who barely knows where the Senate cloak room is yet. I understand how people are all jazzed up because we have a reasonably articulate, good-looking, somewhat conservative Hispanic from a swing state. Great! But please don’t compare him to President Reagan until he’s actually ACCOMPLISHED something and paid his dues. Good grief!


34 posted on 02/21/2012 2:16:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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With Jeb second, Ryan third.

And Palin in about 16 years WILL have a good shot at being President.


35 posted on 02/21/2012 2:18:51 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Who do you have in mind?


36 posted on 02/21/2012 2:20:08 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You worked side by side with Reagan in the White House?

What’s you name then?


37 posted on 02/21/2012 2:22:45 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You worked side by side with Reagan in the White House?

What’s your name then?


38 posted on 02/21/2012 2:23:04 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: AtlasStalled
"Marco Rubio. If the GOP nominates him it will be a landslide victory against Obama."

Rubio is NOT a natural born Citizen

Neither of his parents were naturalized United States Citizens when he was born in Miami.

39 posted on 02/21/2012 2:25:42 PM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There won’t be a “compromise” candidate if a brokered convention. Who runs the GOP convention? The establishment guys make the rules, and they’ll railroad in Romney or some other non-conservative. We do not want a brokered convention.


40 posted on 02/21/2012 2:31:12 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I actually worked for him, on a day-to-day basis, so please don’t try to say that Senator Rubio is the new Reagan, because he’s not.

That's okay, because I didn't say that. I'm not sure why you keep insisting that I did. Just for starters, Rubio lacks Reagan's maturity, wisdom and experience. But in terms of his ability to articulate conservative themes intelligently, he is the best I've seen since Reagan, though he still isn't at that level.

If anyone in this generation is the new Reagan, it’s Governor Sarah Palin,

In five years, Palin will be 53 -- the same age Reagan was when he crafted and gave "A Time for Choosing". Suffice it to say I don't think she'll be quite up to it.

41 posted on 02/21/2012 2:35:17 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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42 posted on 02/21/2012 2:35:26 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It could be some little girl's mom, for all we know. I'd be fine with that. But the fact is that my first choice is not running. I hope that between Newt and Santorum they can stop Romney. Rick Santorum is very much not my top choice, but he's an acceptable choice. I'd be happy with Gingrich/Santorum and satisfied with Santorum/Gingrich. As for Romney/Anyone - No, thank you.

43 posted on 02/21/2012 2:40:29 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone who has endorsed Mitt Romney should be immediately taken off the list. Endorsing Romney is the equivalent of surrendering Reaganism to the GOP-E and should be viewed by all conservatives as a total betrayal.


44 posted on 02/21/2012 2:40:40 PM PST by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Other than Sarah Palin (who isn’t even my first choice), the rest are just recycled RINOS!


45 posted on 02/21/2012 2:43:30 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Godebert
You cannot get that through a lot of peoples heads, if Rubio can run, there are a lot of Saudi royals that were born in this country,
46 posted on 02/21/2012 2:46:41 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Then you’re quaffing the MSM/Hollywood/Obama/Academia Kool-aide by the gallon with nary a spill. I suppose you think she said she could see Russia from her house and doesn’t know that Africa is a continent, right?


47 posted on 02/21/2012 2:55:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Godebert

I was going to bring this up if no one else did. Same is true of Jindal.

I haven’t studied the long posts on FR about this issue—I just know the general gist of the argument.

But I do know that several states are proceeding with eligibility suits on the issue as it concerns Obama. Do we really want to get into this right now? Maybe in another cycle, if and when SCOTUS has decided in favor of the plaintiffs, but not now?

Most people I have mentioned this to immediately start instructing me that as long as you are born in the US you are a citizen. I.e., they are totally unaware that there is any controversy going on, because they don’t get their news from FR. And these are people who consider themselves conservative and political.

Watch out for the other side and the media trying to get us into this mess.


48 posted on 02/21/2012 2:58:18 PM PST by firebrand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No. When she burst on the scene in 2008, I very desperately wanted to hear someone who might be the American Thatcher. Unfortunately, that hope died a bit every time I saw her speak, and I'm someone who never even saw the Katie Couric interview because I figured it would be a slanted lefty ambush.

Over time, I've essentially just heard sound-bite logic and homespun phrases, the winking of an eye and "you betcha". Maggie, she ain't. No force of intellect at all. I have never once, ever, heard her say something that I hadn't already thought of myself, or thought I could express better. Reagan could turn a magnificent phrase that was equally powerful to the elite and to the rest of us. He appealed to the masses without making us think the message was getting dumbed-down.

Now, for those who prefer a populist style of leader, who wins on the basis of "I'm one of you", Palin's style may have tremendous appeal. I expect more of my political leaders other than the ability to preach to the already converted.

49 posted on 02/21/2012 3:10:07 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Well gee chin. We haven’t had more than 5 states check in yet. This is pure cornball BS that is designed to keep people from settling and getting behind a candidate.

Do you realize yet that out of the “57” states according to Obama, we have only had a few check in?

There will be no miracle perfection candidate. Mainly because a person so perfect does not exist.

None of them meet my standard, but then neither do I.


50 posted on 02/21/2012 3:47:52 PM PST by dforest
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