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Sarah Palin: Sure There Might be a New 3rd Party Rise if the GOP Doesn’t Stay True to it’s Platform
A Time For Choosing ^ | August 25, 2012 | Gary P. Jackson

Posted on 08/25/2012 9:57:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: bruinbirdman

Wait no longer I was told Michelle Bachmann is the leader off the Tea Party Caucus and if you don’t believe me just ask Michelle Bachmann.:)


21 posted on 08/26/2012 1:19:04 AM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: BlackElk; PoplarBluffian

Many are disgusted with the Democans and the Republicrats. Just remember, that when she speaks, she is playing 3D chess and everybody else is playing checkers.

When she talks about a SECOND party, that’s where she’s headed in the future. She knows that there is no future in the GOP - for her or for Conservatives. They have done a number on her and refuse to listen to us.

I am a one-man army advocating a write-in campaign for Sarah Palin as our next President. OK, so I’m in a state that is solidly blue and my vote won’t matter. IT WILL MATTER TO ME.


22 posted on 08/26/2012 1:41:32 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey

The Going On Progressive party has failed to uphold the principles this nation was founded upon. They are also no longer an opposition party to the Democrats, who are all communists.

A socialist is a patient communist.

A third party would behoove us.


23 posted on 08/26/2012 2:31:25 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: One Name

You guys are 4 years behind me. There was NO WAY I was going to vote McLame until he chose Sarah. This time we didn’t even get a “Sarah”.


24 posted on 08/26/2012 4:15:33 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This dovetails nicely with the gist of my post yesterday. I have serious issues, from my perspective as a devout Catholic, with Romney and his stances in this, and I am trying to decide my next move in light of that, and the general thrust of the GOP these last twenty or so years. With the GOP continually trying to edge away from moral conservatism, if I do vote in the upcoming presidential campaign, this is absolutely the pee-or-get-off-the-pot moment. They may, and I stress that word, may get this one last chance. If a single thing is reneged upon, that’s it.

As it is, we either need a third party dedicated primarily to making good moral choices that grows from the ashes of the republican party, or the party itself needs to change. But the dance of playing with romancing the moral conservatives is toast, either way.

Like Voris says, “Let’s look at this a little more deeply. Faithful Catholics don’t want Obama because he is a conduit for evil – no doubt about it.
But think of this .. if/when a faithful Catholic goes into the voting booth and pulls a lever for Romney – he is pulling the lever for a man who supports same-sex civil unions and has stated that he thinks such couples should be able to adopt.
In short, the dilemma is a guy who supports a heck of a lot of evil, or a guy who supports a little less evil. Man, that’s our choice.

And here’s the root of the problem. Faithful Catholics and under political conservatives have been used and abused by the Republican Party establishment for decades. In five of the last 8 presidential elections, a republican has won.

Abortion on demand is still the law of the land and America has continued her downward moral spiral, granted at varying speeds depending on which party is in control.

But that’s just the point – it boils down to a question of just how fast we are rocketing to hell. Warp speed if the democrats are in charge, cruise control if the Republicans are. BUT THERE IS NEVER A REVERSAL OF COURSE.

At some point, Catholics and other like minded moral people, who believe that the number one issue with America is not the economy but moral rot, have got to get out of this box of vote for the bad guy OR the REALLY bad guy.

Moral conservatives have been neglected and thrown crumbs from the table paid lip service for decades by the GOP establishment EXACTLY like African American voters have been abused and thrown crumbs from the table and paid lip service by the Democratic establishment for those same decades.
Million of children are still being aborted and the much of African American community is still mired in crushing poverty. How many elections does it take to realize that the establishment of both parties are conning their base for votes?”

I’d like to add one more thing. In the last election, it wasn’t so much that my wife and I voted for McCain. He made us hold our noses. Lord, but he stank on ice. We voted for Sarah Palin. Enough with the politicians who say anything to get in the seat, and then spend their terms doing nothing effectively but blathering and posturing.


25 posted on 08/26/2012 4:51:09 AM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Agreed."

Ditto. Going to see 2016 Obamas America today w/ my sister.

Although Paul Ryan already "sealed the deal" w/ me, this will further my resolve to get that bastard OUT OF OUR WHITE HOUSE AND OUR LIVES!

26 posted on 08/26/2012 5:05:31 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: onyx

Thanks for the ping....and great job on the FReepathon, congrats!!! =)


27 posted on 08/26/2012 5:08:13 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hehehe, right on brother! Heard that thwap all the way over here, lol.


28 posted on 08/26/2012 5:11:07 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah Palin: Sure There Might be a New 3rd Party Rise if the GOP Doesn’t Stay True to it’s Platform

Geez, people!
29 posted on 08/26/2012 5:14:53 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Although there is really only ONE major potty...with R and D divisions, a so-called third party would be the way to go, and RIGHT NOW...we have fiddle-ph%$#3ed around enough as ‘tis!!!!!!!!!!

Semper Watching!!!!!
*****


30 posted on 08/26/2012 5:17:14 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: gunnyg; 2ndDivisionVet
Although there is really only ONE major potty...with R and D divisions, a so-called third party would be the way to go, and RIGHT NOW...we have fiddle-ph%$#3ed around enough as ‘tis!!!!!!!!!!

As I posted earlier to someone of a similar-sounding temperament:
Ditto here. I`m not voting for a homo marriage-backing, enviro-whacko, gun-grabbing, health care system usurper like Romney.

I`ve had it with RINOs and their “you-need-to-support-me- because-the-other-guy-is-worse” routine. All the GOP gives in routine is a continual lurch leftward. Look, the GOP-e despises the Tea Party movement as little beyond a “necessary evil” that is to be tolerated at best and disdained at worst.


"Don’t Get Suckered into Supporting the Republican Party" is exactly what folks like George Soros are saying. You can bet some of the biggest supporters (probably even financially if you could dig deep enough) of conservative third parties are liberal Democrats and other leftists who have taken over the Democrat Party and are busily working to take over the Republican Party. They know that dividing the vote amongst a variety of "Hey, I'm more conservative than you 'cause I didn't vote for any Republican" nitwits is one their most effective ways to destroy their opposition and to solidify a political hegemony.

Over the past thirty years they have taken control of one of the two largest political parties in a country where winner takes all in elections and are busily working to fracture the only opposition they have by encouraging conservatives to leave the Republican Party in the hands of RINOS rather than working to take over the party apparatus as they, the Leftists, have taken over the Democrat Party.

For those who say, "Well, I'm a proud member of the Constitution Party or the Declaration Party or the Conservative Party or the Southern Principled Conservative Party of Holy Ghost Fire on the Mountain Pre-Rapture Remnant of the Real Thing Party and someday we'll be big enough to replace the Republican Party, just like the Temperance Party or the Bull Moose Party did":

Doofuses: we don't live in a parliamentary system where representation is divided proportionally between the losers!

It's winner take all, baby, and the sooner you realize that and stop wasting time fighting like cats and Baptists to multiply the number of me-so-conservative parties the sooner you'll have turned back the liberal encroachment on the existing main opposition party to their main vehicle for political power, the Democrat Party, instead of complimenting yourself on just how wonderfully more conservative your loser party is going to be than the one you deliberately abandoned to leftist takeover.
"Hey, I don't like these liberal bumper stickers on this fully functioning vehicle or the places its driver is taking us, right? So, I've got, like, this great plan to deal with that, 'kay? Instead of tossing the driver out on his butt and getting some more appropriate body detailing and then driving it wherever we want to go, we're going to get out at the next corner, wag our fingers really hard at the driver as he speeds off, and then from scratch build our own new most perfectly conservative vehicle and, someday, maybe, enter that into the race! And won't that glorious day be, oh, so grand?"
And you think Jesus is going to say, "Well done, good and faithful servant for refusing to take back the existing opposition party and, instead, throwing your vote to something that couldn't possibly defeat a known enemy because you thought being considered a more nearly "true" conservative party than any other was more important than actually conserving and preserving the Republic against an ongoing enemy onslaught"?

Dream on.

31 posted on 08/26/2012 5:30:48 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
12 losers to 6 winners in the last 70 years and 2 of the winners were there for special reasons ~ Eisenhower and Reagan.

The GOP-e does not have a winning record. Time for a new manager!

32 posted on 08/26/2012 5:40:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WilliamRobert
The way it works you create a new party and destroy the one you were coming out of. Single member districts control the number of major parties you can have ~ since eventually you always need 50%+1 vote to win, and every state is a single member district for the Senate, and each Congressional district is a single member district. The Presidency, as well, tends that way in the aggregate.

What we have is a problem with one of our factions. We've named it the GOP-e ~ due to their pretensions of elitism due to greater merit ~ meaning they have access to more money than we do. However, they have a losing record over the last 70 years and have not been good stewards of the Republican brand name.

This is the time to put an end to their standing in the party. The way is to simply usurp state parties first.

The Democrats actually exterminated their old Southern Democrats by creating a totally new state structure, which then disestablished the existing state structure.

Most of that maneuvering was invisible to even experienced analysts ~ but it wasn't invisible to me. I spent a good decade handling special cases where you had one Democrat party in Tennessee (for example) applying for refunds of unspent postage for a totally different Democrat party in Tennessee.

We had that in MS, AL, SC, NC, AR, and possibly other places as well.

TN had that sort of thing all the way down in the County committees!

All the parties are organized as corporate entities, usually under special state laws. This is where you have to hit the GOP-e. Find a state. Create your corporate entities. Propose to run a primary/caucus/convention for your candidates. Invite registered Republicans to attend.

Inside a decade the old GOP-e and their exclusionary rules will be eradicated and the new Republican party will own the label!

33 posted on 08/26/2012 5:53:46 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hildy

lolololol

“Sarah Palin has turned into the worst one of all...”

With your long posting history of bashing Sarah Palin, I wouldn’t expect any other comment from you!

I generally ignore your posts.....with obvious good reason.


34 posted on 08/26/2012 6:30:05 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The last thing we need is a third party....we should set about the task of taking OUR PARTY back from the dead wood that have illegitimately been controling it.
35 posted on 08/26/2012 6:41:39 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Hildy; 2ndDivisionVet; onyx; NoGrayZone
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5693/ripk.jpg

The GOP has it's roots as THE third party.

Because the Whigs were too cowardly to confront the Issue of Slavery.

So if they are too stupid to condemn the Idea of Progressive Big Government, they are doomed to repeat the Whigs History.

I say SCREW THEM!

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e174/KyraAyn/Sarah/OSYDIA.jpg

36 posted on 08/26/2012 6:42:23 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: laweeks
Nouns - Possessive ‘s

www.englishclub.com › Learn English › Grammar › Nouns

Possessive ‘s. When we want to show that something belongs to somebody or something, we usually add ‘s to a singular noun and an apostrophe ‘ to a plural ...

Please don't take this as being argumentative but I think you might be wrong!!!

37 posted on 08/26/2012 6:47:55 AM PDT by ontap
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To: D-fendr

‘And, anything you can do starting from scratch, you can do quicker and easier within the GOP.’

Not necessarily. Sometimes the structure is degraded to the point where it would be simpler, easier, and more productive to demolish it and build a new one. New pipes, new wires, and no GOP-e termites.


38 posted on 08/26/2012 6:55:25 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Federalist Party—The Party of George Washington—Not a bad name—Or the Constitutional Party, even the Neo-Whigs. A real grass roots Tea Party based party would do it—IF the GOP fails to elect Mitt, or once in power fails to lead—Then they should be discarded like a used tampon. We The People count for something! Then, the power of the internet needs to be used to pull off one of the greatest coups in human history—the toppling of the Two Party-Media dominated—Wall Street Cabal that run things.


39 posted on 08/26/2012 8:24:25 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: sayuncledave

Don’t forget Mittler’s lifelong enthusiastic cheerleading for mass baby-killing, his support for perverts adopting children, his active persecution of Roman Catholicism and every other pro-life church under Romneycare, his inclusion of $50 abortions in Romneycare and placing Planned Barrenhood permanently on its board of directors TWO YEARS AFTER Etch-a-Sketch CLAIMS to have become “pro-life,” and that he does not promise outright repeal of Obozocare but “repeal AND REPLACE” whatever that means as the blank check he gives himself to attract anti-Obozocare voters who hear “repeal” but don’t hear “replace.”


40 posted on 08/26/2012 9:32:15 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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