Posted on 09/04/2012 8:34:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Carter’s internal polling told him the truth. Way before the race was called he said to Jody Powell “We lost, didn’t we.”
To which Powell replied “Yes, Sorry Mr President.”
But what amazes me is what you hear from the speeches....obama has stopped lobbying and gotten rid of the DC insiders, he’s made illegals legal by going to college or joining the military, he’s made it okay for gays to serve openingly and has approved gay marriage. This stuff is either flat out lies or truths nobody agrees with. Yet they still vote for him. Everyone of those delegates should be auditioning for the WALKING DEAD.
NOWHERE in the article does it mention the blatant OVERSAMPLING of Dims that is going on in most polls (Rasmussen and Gallup seem to be avoiding this but they are still only sampling registered voters as opposed to likely voters).
Most prominent example of Dim over-sampling: the exit polls that said Scott Walker would win by a razor’s edge over-sampled Dims by around 4 points. Actual result: Walker win 52-48.
I ALWAYS look at the poll internals. ALL polls that give Zero a wide lead ALWAYS over-sample Dims.
And the latest trick? Some polls are now not even giving the breakdown of Dims, Repubs, and Indies. (This was the case in two recent polls that had Zero leading in NV by 2 points and leading in PA by 4 points).
I think support for Romney is FAR MORE than what the public polls are showing.
I think that the Dim operatives know the real story, which is why the campaign is so nasty. However, I don’t think anyone has told Zero what the real numbers are (too afraid of VJ).
"I see a blowout coming -- 59% to 39% -- not quite a record, but devastating enough to dismantle the Dem machine up and down the tickets."
Fairly optimistic. Even Reagan's second election (1984) never made your 59% popular vote victory hurdle; only Harding (1920), Nixon (1972), Roosevelt (1936), and Johnson (1964) exceeded said mark...
Presidential election results listed by Popular vote (for elections with Popular vote) sorted in decending order:
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I am embarking on this just to expose both sides. It is my contention that the GOPe uses them more to keep up and comers out by squashing them in the arena of public debate essentially calling them unelectable and shaping the public opinion accordingly.
It was Ted Cruz’s victory over the establishment that got me to thinking about how the GOE uses them to defeat dissent.
"Keeps pollsters gainfully employed"
Right. This is the same America that neutered Bill Clinton for far less of a Crap Sandwich than Obama has served up.
Me too, Wingy.
Sometimes I'm a 24 year old, black, lesbian that is going to vote for Romney, sometimes I'm a Latino that is going to vote for obama, but they never get a real answer from me.
If the Dem platform- government sponsored abortion, gay marriage, absence of God- is any indication, Obama realizes he’s in big trouble. He understands his only hope is to motivate his base to vote in numbers like they did for 2008 and just pray he can slime R/R enough to convince a good chunk of independents to stick with him. If he starts to play the race card, that’s a sure sign his numbers have tanked.
I tend to agree. What do you think their commentary will be the morning after Obama’s Debacle?
Here’s my uneducated take on things...
You can only look at the most recent election any where to try to get a reasonable idea of how things may go, especially if conditions economically, etc. haven’t changed or have gotten worse...here goes:
Wisconsin: recall of Walker a blow out
2010 elections: referendum on Obummer
NMex: conservatishy Latina gov
VA: very conservative state govt
NC: big no on gay marriage
FL: Rubio
I wouldn’t rely on the immediate past results as much if the economy wasn’t so bad, the tax axe wasn’t hanging over our heads, Obummer care wasn’t so unpopular, gay marriage wasn’t so unpopular, etc.
Just my read on things...hope I’m right.
Here’s my uneducated take on things...
You can only look at the most recent election any where to try to get a reasonable idea of how things may go, especially if conditions economically, etc. haven’t changed or have gotten worse...here goes:
Wisconsin: recall of Walker a blow out
2010 elections: referendum on Obummer
NMex: conservatishy Latina gov
VA: very conservative state govt
NC: big no on gay marriage
FL: Rubio
I wouldn’t rely on the immediate past results as much if the economy wasn’t so bad, the tax axe wasn’t hanging over our heads, Obummer care wasn’t so unpopular, gay marriage wasn’t so unpopular, etc.
Just my read on things...hope I’m right.
Isn’t there a new CNN poll showing Obama up by 7 (52-45)?
Would seem to show thatthe GOP convention backfired, which plays right into the Dem narrative that it was a disaster.
I think the important thing is to look at what the campaigns are actually doing, because they’ll have the best and most accurate polls. Particularly striking is the convention of Black ministers on how to motivate their congregations to get out and vote for Obama. That wouldn’t be happening if there weren’t numbers showing soft support.
You're probably right. Our demographics probably won't allow it, even if conditions justify it.
From the table you posted, Hoover came in with 58.21%, and went out with FDR taking 57.41%. It could happen. Right or wrong, the incumbent got the blame.
BTW..any chance that "Eastern Daylight Time" on the timestamps can appear as E.D.T?
“If Zero somehow wins in November, there is no way on Gods Green Earth he will be followed by a Democrat.”
He won’t be followed by anyone for decades. There will be no more elections.
Obama unexpectedly defeated at polls
Nope, latest CNN polls shows it a dead heat at 48-48
Thanks! But now I’m wondering where on CNN.com the story with that 52-45 poll was. I know I saw it this morning, can’t find it now.
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