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Prominent Members of Chicago Black Community: Those closest to Obama know there's no 2nd term
HillBuzz ^ | September 13, 2012 | Kevin DuJan

Posted on 09/15/2012 8:56:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I’m just back from a delightful trip down to a little sandwich shop on the Southside of Chicago where prominent members of the black community enjoy lunch served up with a side of political gossip. I relish the occasions I get invited to these little meetings and never know who’ll be sitting at the table with me but love the jerk chicken combo with extra “bodacious sauce”. In a corner over by a colorful mural celebrating the roaring-twenties and jazz I got an earful about the black community’s feeling about both the Obamas and their abandonment of Chicago for the sunny shores of Oahu in January.

This group of influential black Chicagoans calls themselves, informally, “The Think Squad” and has been a big help with stories and activities in the past. If you consider the Jesse Jacksons, Al Sharptons, and other “Justice Brothers” types on one side of the spectrum…the Think Squad is the polar opposite. These are good people who openly talk about how terrible the Democrat community has been for black people for the last four or five decades and how Obama and his acolytes have made a great many things worse for blacks since he took office. The Think Squad is not happy about the amnesty efforts for criminal Hispanics who broke American laws but are now able to push blacks out of work because of Obama’s intention to allow these people to become job-seekers in this dreadful economy. As one person at the table noted by waiving her hand at the scene out the window, “What the Hell has gotten any better since he became President. Where’s all that hope and change? All I see is crime and trash”.

“Listen bud, there’s no second term nothing and they know as much,” a Think Squader told me between bites of his bodacious sandwich. “All this is for show. Axelrod has already moved on but no one knows what to do and they’re kind of just limping around without a plan hoping those Romney people mess up or the media drags them across the finish line. But ain’t nobody in that top tier who thinks he’s going to win. It’s just not happening because they can’t fool people a second time”.

I know there are many of you who — for whatever reason — still sit in front of your televisions with your eyes pried wide open taking in all the lies the corrupt media tells you. Why you do this is beyond me. I also don’t understand why you still pay for newspaper subscriptions or think that the polls Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow recite to you are in any way accurate. I can find no gentle way to stay this but if you believe what the tee-vee tells you, then you’re foolish. After four long years of watching the corrupt media relentlessly lie to drag Obama over the finish line if you have not picked up on the fact that everyone on television is working hard under the Democrats’ banner then there is truly something wrong with you. You are a lost cause.

You need to get out into your community and get the scoop from real people on the ground.

You need to see what’s going on with your OWN EYES and listen with your OWN EARS to get the stories the media won’t ever tell you.

You need to talk to a “Think Squad” of your own wherever you can find one.

The Think Squad confirmed what I’ve been hearing through friends whose families know Marion Robinson, the current “First Grandmother” and Michelle’s mother: the Obamas and those close to them are preparing to decamp to Honolulu, Hawaii and live out his post-presidency in the post suburb of Kailua. This is Hawaii’s Beverly Hills. The Think Squad had a great time mocking the hula and pretending to sip mai-tais and pina-coladas as they regaled me with all the things Marion’s been “bragging-on” about the house she expects to live in come January when the Obamas depart the White House and Marion comes with them. They’ll still have servants, Secret Service guards, a chef, and almost all of the amenities they enjoy now. But it will be a permanent vacation mode instead of the short bursts of paradise these people experienced on their many jaunts to Hawaii over the last four years before their usual return to Washington. But now, they won’t ever have to go back to DC and Marion is especially gleeful that they won’t be coming back to Chicago ever, either.

“She hates the cold and is glad to never have to come back here,” another person at the table told me while munching on some sweet potato chips at lunch. I dipped some in hot sauce like she did and discovered a new favorite snack as she told me how she, too, would love to abandon Chicago winters forever and never have to come back here.

The general consensus is that black people will keep voting Democrat in droves because that’s “just what we do” but that there is nowhere near the excitement levels of 2008. ”People will not be lining up to do nothing for him in November ’cause he didn’t do nothing for us for four years”, any angry Think Squader told me from the other end of the table. The mood indicated that black turnout would not be anywhere in the realm of 2008 and would instead sink down to more normal participation rates — which jives with everything you should be noticing in terms of enthusiasm for Obama across the board. People are over Obama, like he’s a rapper who has not had a big hit in a while or a singer whose last few albums have bombed. You still see people peddling the Obama tee shirts on the south side, “but you ain’t see nobody BUYING them, do you?”. I was told to look closely at those shirts and see for myself that many of them were left over from years ago. Nobody’s bothered to make up new designs for 2012 here on the Southside and the raggedy shirts for sale on the street corners are still sporting HOPE and CHANGE logos alongside the usual portraits of Obama’s disembodied head floating in glory with those of Dr. King, Malcolm X, and even, randomly, Tupak Shakur at times.

The table burst out into loud laughter when I asked if anyone believed there was even a remote chance that the Obama Presidential Library and Museum could be coming to Chicago and every last member of the Think Squad said “that thing’s going on the beach somewhere in Hawaii where it belongs”. There is no delusion that Chicago would get any sort of perk or pay-back for sending the Obamas to Washington. ”What do they care about Chicago for when they got everything they needed out of this place and there’s nothing more they need?”. The consensus was that Obama has a long established pattern of taking what he needs, then moving on to someplace new to acquire new resources there, and then moving on to whatever he thinks can help him advance again.

Hawaii is the next roosting place for the Obamas because his post-presidency will be all about becoming “The President of the World” since he can’t get any higher in this country than the plateau he’s already reached. He’ll travel abroad, give big speeches, and spend the rest of his life touring Asian and Middle Eastern countries talking about how much the West misunderstands Islam and how much America has to apologize for. A good number of the Think Squaders don’t see too long of a post-presidency for Obama. Some think he’s sick (with Parkinson’s, as we’ve talked about on this site for years) and others think he might even have HIV (due to his inexplicable weight loss). ”He’s got the Slims and it shows”, somebody at the table said, drawing an awkward silence as a waitress walked around picking up trash while trying not to seem like she was listening to the boisterous group in the corner. ”The Slims” is slang in Chicago’s black community for HIV/AIDS. One in five black men in Chicago have HIV who engage in any sort of homosexual activity; this includes guys who are married and still fool around with men but don’t consider themselves bisexuals or “punks”, which is black slang for a gay man of color.

There was no doubt at the table that Barack Obama is gay and has been part of the “down low club” that’s incredibly common in big cities like Chicago where gay black men desperately seek to avoid being labeled as “punks” by taking a wife and creating a public sham of a marriage. Normally, the woman in these relationships is somehow undesirable and difficult to deal with, which is why a straight man would not want to touch her. A few good examples of this are Star Jones, Terry McMillen, Oprah Winfrey, Jada Pickett Smith, and of course Michelle Obama. All of them either married or have a longterm relationship with a gay black man (a “punk”) but who enjoy the benefits of having this man on their arm (for however long it lasts, in the case of Jones and McMillen). One of these women is a lesbian who not only has benefitted career-wise from being married to a punk but who also hides her own homosexuality by faking a marriage.

It’s hilarious sitting at a table in a sandwich shop with people who know the real score about stuff like this and realizing just how many millions of people out there who rely on the corrupt media for their news haven’t the slightest clue in Hell what’s really going on.

Some in the Think Squad believe that Obama will just come out when he ascends to that international stage in his post-presidency but others think he’ll never do that for fear of retaliation from Muslims. It’s common practice for Muslim men to continue having relations with other males while manifestly heterosexual and married, especially if the wife in question is mannish and overbearing much like Michelle. ”If you can’t see it just by looking at him, then you’re stupid” said one of my lunch mates today. I 100% agree with that and will never understand how any of this is a mystery to Americans. I guess they just don’t want to see Obama for who he really is and maybe never will.

As lunch wrapped up today and I put on my sweatshirt for the long walk back to the Red Line, the parting thoughts from the group were these:

* No — black people are not going to riot when Barack Obama loses. Black people have pretty much given up on this guy, mainly because of the fact he didn’t deliver on his promises to them but also a lot of them see that he’s gay and don’t like that and also don’t like the gay marriage “stuff” he was “talking about a lot this year”.

* No — there’s not a snowball’s chance in Hell that blacks will vote Republican this year because they will NOT vote against Obama. They will instead sit home. ”He didn’t help me, so I ain’t helping him!” is the motto this year. Count on black turnout to be at 2004 levels, not 2008 numbers the way the corrupt media is baking into all those polls that get conservatives worked up where they show Obama leading. Without blacks voting at 2008 numbers, Obama loses Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia with no hope of making up those numbers with other groups. It’s as simple as that.

* Yes — the Obamas are already planning their move to Hawaii. Michelle is actually happy about this as she does not like being First Lady. She will enjoy having all the perks of the position for the rest of her life without any of the hard work. She is looking forward to a life of luxury and fun for the rest of her days. Michelle’s mother is thrilled to be leaving Washington for Hawaii permanently. All those years of putting up with her “punk-ass son-in-law” as she called him have finally paid off for her in her mind, because she never dreamed she’d get to retire on an estate in Hawaii that can only be described as “royal”. Obama himself didn’t actually like being president. It was always a step towards something bigger. He really wants to be UN Secretary General or something and lord over the whole world. His ego and narcissism have no bounds.

* Yes — the Think Squad believes Obama will lose, despite what the corrupt media tells you, because “who in their right mind would believe this man again when he made a mess the first time?”. Without the mass-hysteria of Hopeychange and the threats of “if you don’t vote for him then you are a racist” there’s no wave of emotion for Obama to surf to re-election. That means no second term.

That’s how the Think Squad sees it as prominent members of the Chicago black community at least.

NOTE: For further coverage of the Obamas’ move to Hawaii in January 2013, click HERE to read more.


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1 posted on 09/15/2012 8:56:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bookmark to read tomorrow.


2 posted on 09/15/2012 9:03:49 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pass the popcorn.


3 posted on 09/15/2012 9:04:18 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Great piece--thanks so much for the insight!

LOVE IT!

4 posted on 09/15/2012 9:09:26 PM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bfl


5 posted on 09/15/2012 9:11:54 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It wouldn’t surprise me that he would go to Hawaii. Disney just opened up a resort there and they’re going to want the biggest Mickey Mouse they can find.


6 posted on 09/15/2012 9:12:01 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, I just plain enjoyed reading this!


7 posted on 09/15/2012 9:12:01 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: milagro; upchuck
"Great piece--thanks so much for the insight! LOVE IT!"

Hat tip to upchuck from another thread.

8 posted on 09/15/2012 9:13:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Awesome read....Watching the Obama campaign they are playing to lose not win. They tell lies, then cover the lies with more lies...it;s perpetual lies. I think they have lost track of how and what lies they have told.

The economy is in shambles, one thought the muslim riots may have been a setup to cover for QE3 and credit downgrade. Been digging to see what other “Releases” occurred this past week, hidden by the riots.


9 posted on 09/15/2012 9:13:19 PM PDT by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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To: blueunicorn6

So Japanese, Korean and Chinese tourists don’t have to fly all the way to California or Florida?


10 posted on 09/15/2012 9:15:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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11 posted on 09/15/2012 9:16:23 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“He didn’t do nothing for us’’. Good God. Billions spent on education over decades and this is how a whole subculture speaks. “He didn’t do nothing for for us’’. Good God.


12 posted on 09/15/2012 9:19:17 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you {blushing} :)


13 posted on 09/15/2012 9:19:26 PM PDT by upchuck (If nobama is reelected and gets to choose more SCOTUS judges, this country is finished.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mooch and SLim seperate after leaving the White Hut.

Moochie and momma lay on the beach. Jug eared Joy Boy kicks back in Man County Chicago.

14 posted on 09/15/2012 9:20:09 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: Fully Awake DAV
>"the muslim riots may have been a setup to cover for QE3 and credit downgrade."

Or a dagger in Hill's back on the way out.

15 posted on 09/15/2012 9:21:48 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting read. However, back in 2008, if I remember correctly, didn’t the Hillbuzz folks predict that the PUMA’s were going to save the day for that election?


16 posted on 09/15/2012 9:23:05 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Rush Limbaugh had written this he be called a racist. I’m sorry but reading this shows what a vicious and degenerate subculture exists among inner-city blacks. This isn’t funny— it’s disturbing and sickening.


17 posted on 09/15/2012 9:27:10 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I spent the day in Chicago today. Interestingly enough, I saw exactly 2 Obama stickers all day.

Bye bye Barry.

18 posted on 09/15/2012 9:29:48 PM PDT by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I loved reading the piece. But it seems like some made up fiction. I don’t see a big table full of African Americans on the South side of Chicago saying all those things over the course of an interview.

I see a lot of poetic license by the writer to embellish a story and try to create a narrative that isn’t there. The piece seems too strained trying to hit every single anti Obama talking point, including the gay thing.

Of course I fully acknowledge the MSM does the exact same thing against Romney. So I’m all for these few and far between anti Obama pieces.


19 posted on 09/15/2012 9:31:15 PM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I concur. There are only 2 groups that matter in this election. Let's look...

1. Those who didn't vote for Obama in 2008, but will vote for him in 2012.
2. Those who voted for Obama in 2008, and will not vote for him in 2012

Group 1 has a bunch of kids 18-21 who weren't old enough to vote in 2008... but not much else. The buzz is not even 1/10 of what it was in 2008. No "historic opportunity" to vote, no white guilt, no massive rapper and BET campaigns like "Vote or Die", etc etc etc.

Group 2 is LOADED. Plenty who "made history" and "si se pueda" (Yes we can/did) no longer have that incentive. Tons of uber-Leftists who are disenchanted because their utopian dreams were not achieved, and clearly will not. Piles of white guilt voters who no longer feel the guilt, but certainly feel the worsened economy. Even with the expected massive vote fraud, the millions that won't repeat for Obama mean that Romney may just be able to win with the same number of votes that McCain got in 2008.

20 posted on 09/15/2012 9:32:05 PM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m thinking a lot of Democrats are giving the party line answer to pollsters, but are going to end up just staying home, or undervoting. That way they can retain some sense of “I didn’t vote against him” while still doing what their conscience dictates.

One black Democrat told me this is his plan at least, and that “black people are used to being disappointed by black leaders who talk a good story but never do anything”. I can’t imagine where he got that idea...?


21 posted on 09/15/2012 9:39:38 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: SteveAustin

He’s a native and it probably is a composite of more than one visit, kind of like Obama’s “girlfriends” in college.


22 posted on 09/15/2012 9:41:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Jug ears has already been picked for the dumbo slot. ;)


23 posted on 09/15/2012 9:46:48 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: bigbob; 2ndDivisionVet

Went down through West Oakland (CA) today and saw a grand total of ONE BO yard sign. The convention is over and you’d think they would be popping up like mushrooms after a rain. Not so.


24 posted on 09/15/2012 9:52:06 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: SteveAustin

Larry Sinclair wrote a book about drugs and gay sex with Barry in the back of a limousine when Bath-House Barry was an unknown in Chicago.
He went through hell, BUT was never sued for defamation/slander.

Explore DuJan’s website. He’s gaining notoriety because he is gay in Chicago, and as being gay seems to work for getting a job in the administration (and getting ambassadorships, however dangerous), it tends to open doors in Chicago for information that only gays can obtain.

Read about Man’s Country and the other gay bath houses on his site,(then, take a shower) and wonder.....hmmm...how come DuJan hasn’t been SUED yet?

Yeah, DuJan used to be for Hitlery, but Barry screwed her over and it pissed DuJan off. The more he researched the dem operation, the more he moved to the right.


25 posted on 09/15/2012 9:56:02 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: jmacusa

“Billions spent on education over decades and this is how a whole subculture speaks. “He didn’t do nothing for for us’’.

There was a picture that went viral on the internet about a year and a half ago of a note taped to the door of a Burger King restaurant in Detroit. It read: “We close. Out of meet”. So, don’t be axin me what be goin’ on. You should listen to how some of the inner city school teachers and District Office personnel murder the English languge. Fo sho.


26 posted on 09/15/2012 9:56:42 PM PDT by Cherokeesquaw
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To: SteveAustin
I agree. It was a great fun read, but I think it was largely fictional.

It was like one of those barbershop type of movies, with Charles Dutton and Eddie Griffin and Martin Lawrence. The dialog didn't ring true.

But I enjoyed it anyway.

27 posted on 09/15/2012 9:59:44 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will read it all tomorrow. I hope DuJan is wrong about 0bastard touring and giving speeches. I want him charge/arrested/sentenced/deported.


28 posted on 09/15/2012 10:04:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Moorings
Interesting read. However, back in 2008, if I remember correctly, didn’t the Hillbuzz folks predict that the PUMA’s were going to save the day for that election?

That's exactly what I thought upon reading this article.
29 posted on 09/15/2012 10:05:14 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Antoninus; Moorings

Political pro and pollster Dick Morris thought that Hillary Clinton and Condoleeza Rice would be facing one another in 2008. Nobody bats 1,000.


30 posted on 09/15/2012 10:16:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: little jeremiah

Yep!


31 posted on 09/15/2012 10:43:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Moorings
Interesting read. However, back in 2008, if I remember correctly, didn’t the Hillbuzz folks predict that the PUMA’s were going to save the day for that election?

. I hadn't looked at PUMA in years, but since you mentioned it, I just went to see what they are saying. Once again, they are still totally against O. One poster refers to him as OFARTINAJAR!

32 posted on 09/15/2012 10:46:42 PM PDT by blondee123 (Our country is headed for DICTATORSHIP! WAKE UP!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I dont believe this..I think they will fight to the last vote is counted and will cheat alot.


33 posted on 09/15/2012 10:48:54 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Hawaii is the next roosting place for the Obamas because his post-presidency will be all about becoming “The President of the World” since he can’t get any higher in this country than the plateau he’s already reached.”

Hunh. I was thinking that he would become The Antichrist.


34 posted on 09/15/2012 11:00:02 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the White House)
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To: Teacher317; 2ndDivisionVet
The problem is the election is based on the 57 state + DC electoral count (sorry, I have only been able to find 50 states with designated electors but I am still looking).

Most states are winner take all. No matter who wins the Democrat nomination, he pretty much starts out with these in his column, no matter who he is.

Add in either OH (18) or PA (20) as highly likely, you have around 230 the day of nomination. To win, 270 electors.

Why is there such an interest in getting illegals legalized? TX is 38. It is finished at that point.

HI 4
CA 55
WA 12
OR 7
MN 10
IL 20
MI 16
NY 29
MA 11
NJ 14
MD 10
DC 3
ME 4
VT 3
NH 4
RI 4
DE 3
209

35 posted on 09/15/2012 11:07:16 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: jwsea55

Some of those states have gone Republican in the recent past. Did you know that Mr. Obama was only up by 5 in the most recent New Jersey poll that I’ve seen? Michigan may also be a toss-up this time.


36 posted on 09/15/2012 11:25:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I disagree. Michelle Obama LOVES being first lady. She loves the title and, if you listen to her speeches, loves reminding us she is the first lady. If Obama wins the election she will love it even more—she can take vacations when she wants, she can cut back on her military family and obesity causes (what’s the point—she doesn’t have to worry about another election), and live the good life until they leave in 2017 and then really hit pay dirt with more book profits, speaking fees, corporate board seats, etc. and setting their daughters up with a life of luxury. She stands to lose a lot financially if they lose this election. Plus, how could she live with the idea she’s a loser ala Barbara Bush and Rosalynn Carter? I don’t see it.

Plus, Malia just started high school. What a nightmare, moving and starting over at a new school. No parent would want that to happen.


37 posted on 09/15/2012 11:56:45 PM PDT by dupree
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks. I am familiar with those.

MI seems hard like it will be hard to overcome as CA & NY, though. It hasn't voted for a republican since 1988. What has caused that state to vote Dems has gotten stronger over that period.

Romney has a lot of dry powder so NJ could be a possible.

The larger point, with voter fraud, illegals voting, the media, education and the courts, are things headed in a positive direction for those that believe in the Constitution? What if TX turns into CA?

38 posted on 09/15/2012 11:58:45 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: bigbob
That way they can retain some sense of “I didn’t vote against him” while still doing what their conscience dictates.

Thanks for the good chuckle... coupling "conscience" with "Democrat" in the same paragrpah and all!

39 posted on 09/16/2012 12:15:55 AM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: Antoninus

They (Hillbuzz) may be well-meaning, but I think they get carried away a little with these prognostications.


40 posted on 09/16/2012 12:47:26 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Antoninus

Well, Hillary’s ambitions are not a secret, and she did make an attempt for the job. Rice, however, was just wishful thinking on the part of Morris. Maybe he got a few more hits to his website with that match-up. There was no indication that Rice was even interested in the job.


41 posted on 09/16/2012 12:52:33 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article is horseshit. There is now ay I would ever believe a bunch of blacks on the south side of Chicago would sit in a diner and talk this way about 0bama. Blacks still love him in big numbers. You still see them every where in their 0bama T-shirts. He’s one of their own and he will win at least 95% of their support.

Look at how 0bama is acting. He is not the least bit prepared to lose. He’s all in and wants to win this thing. He has unfinished business to tend to....to finish off America. Right now, I believe 0bama is acting like he is winning, but has a fear of it slipping away.

We have two problems here at Free Republic.

1) Too many believing the polls are made up and that Romeny id far ahead.

2) Too many who believe the polls are for real and 0bama is a shoe in for re-election.

I say neither is true. Ignore all the polls except for Rasmussen. Right now he has Romney up 2 nationally and tied in the swing states. He has Romney down by 2 in FL and OH and down by one in VA. I believe this is where the race now stands. Super close.

There is going to be no landslide one way or the other. Obama and Romney both have a 50-50 shot at winning.

When its all said and done, if Romney wins it will be because he won all the McCain states and took back NC, VA, FL, IN, OH and CO.......If 0bama wins, it won’t be by the same margin in 2008. He will win without carrying NC and IN this time and very well could see FL and VA gone too. He would have won because he held onto OH.

Talk of Romney winning PA, NH, WI, IA, NV or MI is just that. Talk. Those are solid 0bama states and he will win them again. Don’t waste time and money on them. Focus on the big 6 needed to win, VA, NC, IN, OH, FL and CO. If Romney pulls all those states back in the fold (I believe IN and NC is back already), 0bamam is gone. If Romney loses just one, America is gone.


42 posted on 09/16/2012 3:17:56 AM PDT by GR_Jr. ("On Nov.6 I guess I will swallow that bitter pill called Mitt Romney...only to stop 0bama")
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To: Antoninus

“folks predict that the PUMA’s were going to save the day for that election?”

...I completely forget what PUMA stood for. Please remind me.


43 posted on 09/16/2012 3:35:57 AM PDT by albie
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To: upchuck

Made my day. Thanks.


44 posted on 09/16/2012 4:09:31 AM PDT by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In my fondest dreams!


45 posted on 09/16/2012 4:18:39 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: GR_Jr.

There you go again...writing off WI. WI goes for Romney, unless there is massive voter fraud. You keep forgetting the Walker and Ryan factors.


46 posted on 09/16/2012 4:31:16 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: GR_Jr.

So...just to be clear...you’re calling the writer of this piece a liar. Do I have that right?


47 posted on 09/16/2012 4:51:23 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: albie

Party Unity My A**


48 posted on 09/16/2012 6:12:44 AM PDT by Greg223
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To: GR_Jr.

Most pollsters and political operatives will tell you that undecideds break for the challenger 7 to 1 or some such.


49 posted on 09/16/2012 11:09:24 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: jwsea55
I'm going to go ahead and claim state number 51. It is called Newcasie (NS unless I can convince North Carolina to give up NC). Newcasie is located in the area that used to be north Louisiana and will consist of a few oak tree covered acres on Hwy 157. I'm going to need a couple electors but we can work out the exact details later. Still 6 states left to claim. Don't let 'em go to waste!
50 posted on 09/17/2012 12:39:38 AM PDT by Casie
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