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Republican Leaders Worry Their Party Could Divide in Two
Yahoo! News / National Journal ^ | February 14, 2013 | Ron Fournier

Posted on 02/14/2013 5:54:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Rand is a fake conservative and fake Republican, just like his nutjob old man. That's it in a nutshell. Thanks 2nddivisionvet.
51 posted on 02/14/2013 7:48:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Revelation 3:16
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
52 posted on 02/14/2013 7:57:40 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Revelation 3:16
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
53 posted on 02/14/2013 7:57:57 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article reeks of an exercise in social engineering. Divide and conquer is the name of the game here. Although from recent events, the republicans are bent on purging the conservatives from their ranks, to appeal to moderate republicans of course. It almost seems like the republicans are content with playing the part of minor opposition within the party. Go along, get along, and get a piece of the ever shrinking pie, country be damned.


54 posted on 02/14/2013 8:07:11 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Flycatcher

“You are correct. The author of this piece, Ron Fournier, is a rabid, agenda-driven Marxist. Something to keep in mind.” I don’t think a lot of these people on this thread understand what you are talking about. The old ‘Divide and conquer’ battle plan only work when about 5-7% of the opponents side buys into the notion that losing is winning. They are fools. I never ever thought we had so many that could be led around by left wing trolls and talked into not voting and letting Obama back in the oval office. God help us all.


55 posted on 02/14/2013 8:07:56 PM PST by ynotjjr (Under Construction)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s another take on the state of the party:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/magazine/can-the-republicans-be-saved-from-obsolescence.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp


56 posted on 02/14/2013 8:13:07 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“That’s it in a nutshell, isn’t it? “

You said it, and don’t forget the “pink milk”.


57 posted on 02/14/2013 8:13:47 PM PST by jocon307
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To: KC_Lion

“It’s like a business partner who comes in every day and knee’s you in the balls and yet criticizes you when you express your desire to leave stating that the rival company will gain the upper hand.”

I saved that one and will laugh every time I read it or think about it!


58 posted on 02/14/2013 8:31:43 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does this mean the establishment GOP capitulating SOBs are starting to pay attention?


59 posted on 02/14/2013 9:55:14 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (One "bitter clinger" praying for revival. <BCC><)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Republican leader.

That’s a contradiction in terms.


60 posted on 02/14/2013 10:02:25 PM PST by lurk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
.... and a rift between social and economic conservatives.

And that rift or aka the ideological divide is getting bigger by the day with each new attack on the socials of the party otherwise known as the base by the Blue Blood RINO's like Karl Rove and company.

61 posted on 02/14/2013 10:08:28 PM PST by Ron H. (Hussein Obama, the 21st century American Balkanizer - 'Yes I Can')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

hey! GOP! YOU foisted Romney, and the rest of the crowd of candidates on US!

It is YOUR fault! Not mine!

Talk to the uh, Hand, yes, hand!


62 posted on 02/14/2013 10:55:59 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: KC_Lion

63 posted on 02/14/2013 11:46:51 PM PST by GraceG
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To: laweeks

Why are you waiting for others to do the heavy lifting? Join your local Republican party and start changing things and convince other conservatives you know to do the same.


64 posted on 02/15/2013 2:38:44 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Cubs Fan

The GOPe rather liberals stay in power than conservatives obtain it. Bottom line is that if conservatives want the GOP to support our candidates, we are going to have to take the reins of power away from the GOPe and do it ourselves.


65 posted on 02/15/2013 2:45:26 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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As usual, I see much complaining about the current state of the GOP and the GOPe in particular. If you don't like the way things are then change them. Every Freeper reading this thread needs to be involved in the Republican party. Go and join your local GOP as soon as possible. Get as many conservatives as you know to do the same. Griping on the internet is not going to cut it. Voting every two years is not enough. We need active participation in the party by as many conservatives as we can muster. The GOPe are no going to change things. They like the status quo and are not going to support our cause if they can help it. The future of the Republican party, the conservative movement, and our country lies with us not corrupt party big wigs.
66 posted on 02/15/2013 3:10:43 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Terry L Smith

Romney’s nomination was the fault of conservatives and the GOPe. The GOPe did not close the open primaries allowing moderates and liberals to vote for Romney in a year when the Democrat candidate ran unopposed. Conservatives did not take over the Republican party from the GOPe and change things to give a conservative candidate a better chance. Also, conservatives did not rally behind one candidate and split the vote. Currently, we have little control over the actions of the GOPe, but we are responsible for our own actions. We need to change or all is lost. The time to become pro active is now. We have a year to the 2014 primaries so I suggest we get busy.


67 posted on 02/15/2013 3:50:44 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Jane Long

I did the same, but wrote a big “Resign Reince!” and a “I’m a conservative not a Republican” written on the stub.


68 posted on 02/15/2013 4:03:14 AM PST by Textide
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To: SkyPilot
Not to mention the pro-defense Republicans and the “burn it all down then” Republicans.

Exactly - there are already 3 or for factions with their own litmus tests and no candidate can make all of them 9or even one of them) happy. They will all "stand on principle" as they destroy each others' candidates and we will continue to get "unthinkable" results like Zero for a second term. Our side of the aisle is incapable of holding to a game plan and becoming a cohesive unit with a goal in mind.

69 posted on 02/15/2013 4:31:20 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: DManA

Time for the Liberty Party to be born out of the Tea Party Movement. Let the Rovian Republicans die on the vine. Lets set a date for the New Party to form. If the GOP couldn’t defeat Obama with his track record—they never will defeat another Democrat/Liberal.

If you don’t want a new party-—lets bolt the GOP and join an existing 3rd Party and take it over! Any suggestions? Even if we threaten to do this—or Sarah Palin/Donald Trump make some noise on this, the GOP might cave in and let the Tea Party have some say in the direction of the Party! Its worth a try-—because what the Republicans are doing now just aint cutting it!


70 posted on 02/15/2013 4:51:35 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: River Hawk

“The bottom line is the demographics. There are a lot of good, well-documented articles on the topic ona website which is prohibited here at Free Republic, it’s called VDARE.COM, I invite readers to check it out for themselves.”

I second that. One of the great mistakes here at FR has been to prohibit VDARE.COM. The treachery of GOP elites has been spelled out there better than any other site on the web.


71 posted on 02/15/2013 5:47:03 AM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio. for Amnesty, Spanish, and Karl Rove.)
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To: Pelham

Why is VDARE prohibited?


72 posted on 02/15/2013 6:09:18 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

This begs the question: if conservatives can’t take over the Republican party from the GOPe, what good would moving to a third party do? As tarnished as the Republican brand is, it is seen as the only viable alternative to the Democrats, and most conservatives still turn out to vote for GOP candidates. That’s not something we should give up without a fight. Plus, a third party would still remain vulnerable to RINO infiltration. We need to stand together, organize, and take over the GOP from the corrupt elite who occupy it. We out number them, but we lack the will to fight.


73 posted on 02/15/2013 6:17:07 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Grandma Conservative

“Why is VDARE prohibited?”

I have no direct knowledge but my understanding is that John Robinson was personally offended by something that one of VDARE’s founders wrote about him.

If that’s the case I wish JR and VDARE would bury the hatchet so that we could link to its articles.


74 posted on 02/15/2013 6:45:59 AM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio. for Amnesty, Spanish, and Karl Rove.)
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To: rsobin

No.

Conservatives believe in the rule of law.

Progressives believe any end justifies the means.

Your argument is in not based on easily observable facts.


75 posted on 02/15/2013 9:01:12 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

Joe Scarborough is an observable fact. As a Representative he had me very convinced as to his conservative credentials.The only time Senator Lindsey speaks truly conservatively is for about 6 months every 6 years. Sorrowfully there are many more examples.


76 posted on 02/15/2013 11:53:43 AM PST by rsobin
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To: rsobin

I suggest you reread what I wrote.

Neither Scarborough nor Lindsey are conservatives.


77 posted on 02/15/2013 12:36:30 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Little Ray

They will never win again without the conservative vote.


78 posted on 03/05/2013 1:44:34 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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