Sarah Palin Says Feds Are Stockpiling Bullets For Civil Unrest

Market Daily News ^ | February 28, 2013 | Paul Joseph Watson

[papertyger]

I do appreciate your point, but the fact is a soldier and a LEO are two very different animals.

A soldier is effective because he works in an organized unit, and relies on that organization and mass of fire to a much greater degree than an individual LEO regularly working alone or in small groups.

A LEO would be more akin to a gladiator than a hoplite. I don’t mean to imply any pluses or minuses to either with this analogy. They are simply different tools for different jobs.

[papertyger]

Extremely lame, for those of us who have been professionals.

To what are you taking exception?

I'm not particularly worried about convincing you of the soundness of using a standard load. That is simply a fact.

Do you have any reason to believe these agencies were training with cheaper ammo in times past?

[papertyger]

I haven’t been following this issue closely, but I haven’t noticed that the amounts have been explained away.

As you say, you haven't followed this issue closely.

Supposedly, the size of this purchase is over a five year contract, and is simply to lock in prices at the current level.

Not particularly sinister, though one never knows when dealing with government.

[ansel12]

A soldier is effective because he works in an organized unit, and relies on that organization and mass of fire to a much greater degree than an individual LEO regularly working alone or in small groups.

What???, You think using BB guns for shooting from the waist and various positions, at targets smaller than a pack of cigarettes, or using adapters to use 22 ammo, or using shooting simulators indoors, is based on practicing mass fire instead of close up accuracy by the individual, shooting at another individual?

These people are Gladiators? How many of them even leave the office?

[Broker]

Obama serves Allah. A ruthless, keen and patient foe. Study history:

]anissaries were recruited almost exclusİvely from ex-Christian converts, and so it is interesting that the Bektaşis should have adopted so many Christian attitudes and rituals.

Obama and his heirs will continue his campaign of class warfare. A modern American janissaries is under construction. A force to eradicate all remnant domestic threats. Over the next three decades, Islam will emerge dominant over a remnant society under dhimmitude.

[ansel12]

Evidently you don’t know any more than I do, you keep repeating the same non-explanation that we have been reading for months.

It is vague and doesn’t answer any of the follow up questions.

Is this a routine purchase, a purchase of this size is normal and just a repeat of past orders?

[RedHeeler]

Look at actions. The truth, plain and simple. It is not a puzzle.

[papertyger]

What???, You think using BB guns for shooting from the waist and various positions....etc.

No, I think that level of marksmanship is not strictly required for a soldier to be effective. Nor do I believe all LEOs are capable of equivalent performance.

I do believe concept and practical performance are often at variance, though performance, good or bad, does not disprove the existence of the concept.

[papertyger]

It is vague and doesn’t answer any of the follow up questions.

At what points are you objecting?

[ansel12]

No, I think that level of marksmanship is not strictly required for a soldier to be effective.Nor do I believe all LEOs are capable of equivalent performance.

Gee, it was basic training, so it was pretty common at the time, the army seemed to think it would be useful and they chose BB guns for the target practice.

Law enforcement can be done by anyone, even fat old grandmas, and I don't know why you think all those bullets are being used by some super cops who work in out in the field.

It is clear that you don't know anything useful about this thread topic.

[papertyger]

It is clear that you don't know anything useful about this thread topic.

Just as it is clear your "follow-up questions" and criticism of my responses are nothing more than a rhetorical affectation.

[Rome2000]

This tactic of admitting that the government is purchasing a huge number of bullets while simultaneously portraying anyone concerned about the fact as erroneous and paranoid has been adopted by other mainstream media outlets....

Ask Joe Goebbels and his family how their propaganda racket worked out.

Sic Semper Virginia State Motto.

[Yosemitest]

These Fabian Fascist KNOW WHAT GOOD A HANDGUN (or a rifle and large ammo magazines) CAN DO AGAINST AN ARMY !
That's WHY they don't want US to have them !

The United States Citizens KNOW that they're going to have to fight TYRANTS in their own government.
You cannot protect life, without the ability to take life.

While you are WAITING for the police to respond, someone could be losing their life.
All people of a responsible age should be armed.

As EternalVigilance reminded us:

The Second Amendment IS Pro-Life.

"Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these:
First, a right to life;
Secondly, to liberty;
Thirdly, to property;
together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.
These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation,
commonly called the first law of nature...
In short, it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at the entering into society,
to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights;
when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights;
the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.
If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation.
The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty,
it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift
and voluntarily become a slave."




-- Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists

Click here to read the 12 page pamphlet.

Let us NEVER FORGET THAT !

Let's subjugate them to OUR end game, DUST!
"COMPROMISE" is a DIRTY word!
People who study the Bible know that COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.


It's time to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.


The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn from the Swiss and implement their "gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!
These laws are the ones we should shove into the "2nd Amendment Haters" faces.

" Today, military service for Swiss males is universal. At about age 20, every Swiss male goes through 118 consecutive days of recruit training in the Rekrutenschule. ...

Even before required training begins, young men and women may take optional courses with the Swiss army's M57 assault rifle.
They keep that gun at home for three months and receive six half-day training sessions.

From age 21 to 32, a Swiss man serves as a "frontline" troop in the Auszug, and devotes three weeks a year (in eight of the 12 years) to continued training.
From age 33 to 42, he serves in the Landwehr (like America's National Guard); every few years, he reports for two-week training periods.
Finally, from ages 43, to 50, he serves in the Landsturm; in this period, he only spends 13 days total in "home guard courses."

Over a soldier's career he also spends scattered days on mandatory equipment inspections and required target practice.
Thus, in a 30-year mandatory military career, a Swiss man only spends about one year in direct military service.
Following discharge from the regular army, men serve on reserve status until age 50 (55 for officers).

By the Federal Constitution of 1874, military servicemen are given their first equipment, clothing and arms.
After the first training period, conscripts must keep gun, ammunition and equipment an ihrem Wohnort ("in their homes") until the end of their term of service.

Today, enlisted men are issued M57 AUTOMATIC assault rifles and officers are given pistol.
Each reservist is issued 24 rounds of ammunition in sealed packs for emergency use.
(Contrary to Handgun Control's claim that "all ammunition must be accounted for," the emergency ammunition is the only ammo that requires accounting.)

After discharge from service, the man is given a bolt rifle free from registration or obligation.
Starting in the 1994, the government will GIVE ex-reservists assault rifles. Officers carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end of their service.

When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones to the public.

Reservists are encouraged to buy MILITARY ammunition
(7.5 and 5.6mm-5.56 mm in other countries-for rifles and 9 and 7.65 mm Luger for pistols)
which is sold AT COST by the government, for target practice .
Non-military ammunition for long-gun hunting and .22 Long Rifle (LR) ammo are not subsidised, but are subiect to NO sales controls.
Non-military non-hunting ammunition more powerful than .22 LR (such as .38 Spl.) is registered at the time of sale.

Swiss military ammo must be registered IF bought at a private store, BUT NEED NOT BE REGISTERED IF bought at a range.
The nation's 3,000 shooting ranges sell the overwhelming majority of ammunition.
Technically, ammunition bought at the range must be used at the range, but the rule is barely known and almost never obeyed.

The army SELLS a variety of machine guns, submachine guns, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft guns, howitzers and cannons.
Purchasers of these weapons require an EASILY OBTAINED cantonal license, and the weapons are registered.
In a nation of six million people, there are at least two million guns, including 600,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC assault rifles, half a million pistols, and numerous machine guns.
Virtually every home has a gun.

Besides SUBSIDIZED military surplus, the Swiss can buy other firearms easily too.
While long guns require NO special purchase procedures, handguns are sold only to those with a Waffenerwerbsschien (purchase certificate) issued by a cantonal authority.
A certificate is issued to every applicant over 18 who is not a criminal or mentally infirm.

There are NO restrictions on the carrying of long guns.
About half the cantons have strict permit procedures for carrying handguns, and the other half have NO rules at all.
There is NO discernible difference in the crime rate between the cantons as a result of the different policies.

Thanks to a lawsuit brought by the Swiss gun lobby, semi-automatic rifles require NO PURCHASE PERMIT and are NOT registered by the government.
Thus, the ONLY long guns registered by the government are FULL AUTOMATICS."

The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Let's adopt THEIR LAWS !

Remember:

The beauty of the Second Amendment is
that it will not be needed
until they TRY to take it.

Read Second Amendment: It’s Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .#39;s adopt THEIR LAWS !

[RefudiateObama2012]

My son and two of my nephews work for agencies within DHS. Neither of them use hollow-points when they go to the range. Two of the three have been told that they may be required to shift their day-to-day responsibilities in the event of civil unrest. That’s a fact, Jack.

[Ajnin]

My son and two of my nephews work for agencies within DHS. Neither of them use hollow-points when they go to the range. Two of the three have been told that they may be required to shift their day-to-day responsibilities in the event of civil unrest. That’s a fact, Jack.

No it's not a fact Jack. Either your son and your nephews don't work for DHS or they are lying to you.

[Delta Dawn]

‘So who in Homeland is going to fire on civilians Sarah?

Has it occurred in the US previously, yes or no?
‘

Yes.

[little jeremiah]

That’s what they hope.

That’s not what will happen.

[Delta Dawn]

‘Have you ever lived through civil unrest in America, seen many thousands of paratroopers and marines at the ready guarding choke points and bridges, been sent to a detainment center without food or beds, held with many thousands and thousands of other people?’

You might ask a native of Japan that question...

[Delta Dawn]

The first episode happened at a little place called:

Kent State

[Alaska Wolf]

If the present downward spiral continues, it well could happen again in certain cities.