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Former Bush staffer: GOP should be ‘outspoken’ advocate for gay marriage (Guess who?)
MSNBC's Morning Joe ^ | March 4, 2013 | Drew Katchen

Posted on 03/04/2013 5:30:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Last Thursday, in a sign that the GOP is recalibrating its image after 2012, 100 prominent Republicans (many of whom are no longer serving in office) signed a friend-of-the-court brief seeking to overturn California’s Proposition 8, which effectively banned same-sex marriage in the state shortly after it became legal. The brief states the opinion that marriage is a constitutional right for gay couples—a position that goes beyond even President Obama’s stance on marriage equality.

One of the signers, former communications chief for George W. Bush and senior advisor for the McCain–Palin campaign Nicolle Wallace, joined Morning Joe Monday morning to share why she supports the GOP’s effort for marriage equality.

President Obama also filed a similar brief on Thursday, marking the first time a president has asked the Supreme Court to allow gay couples to marry. Obama stopped short of calling marriage equality a constitutional right....

(Excerpt) Read more at tv.msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: California; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: bush; california; dubya; gaymarriage; gop; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; nicolewallace; prop8; republicans; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 03/04/2013 5:30:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have never seen an issue take such a 180 degree turn in a 12 month period. A year ago, this issue was political suicide. No state had every approved gay marriage, and only through court manipulation was it even an issue. NC became yet another state to resoundingly confirm marriage as man and woman, and then days later Obama made the big dither away from his previous position.

Crazy times we live in.


2 posted on 03/04/2013 5:35:32 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(guess who)

Pinky McTwinkletoes?


3 posted on 03/04/2013 5:39:17 PM PST by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The depraved (GOP) want to embrace the depraved. There’s an easier way. A flying leap off the Golden Gate.


4 posted on 03/04/2013 5:47:33 PM PST by lbryce (BHO:"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way Oppenheiner at Trinity NM)
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To: ilgipper

In some ways it reminds me of,the collapse of the USSR when all the republics broke away. It seemed like almost every day there would be one more to,break away and the pace quickened by the day.

I would not be surprised to wake up in the morning and read that Dick Cheney and Clint Eastwood support gay marriage.


5 posted on 03/04/2013 5:49:34 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We, the people of California, voted TWICE in favor of Prop 8!

It is done! Leave it alone!

6 posted on 03/04/2013 5:52:04 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Promoting what the Almighty abhors is a serious collision course up ahead. That’s one doomed train we would rather not ride to destination end.


7 posted on 03/04/2013 5:55:01 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: ilgipper

What a dumbass thing to say. Of course she’s a McCain RINO so that is to be expected.


8 posted on 03/04/2013 6:04:24 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just wait. They’ll force the boy scouts to have gays, and then a homosexual child rapist/murderer will be caught operating as a scout leader.


9 posted on 03/04/2013 6:06:42 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, yeah, Nicole Wallace, the hag who torpedoed Sarah Palin in the election of 2008. Is anyone surprised she’s a liberal?


10 posted on 03/04/2013 6:08:24 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Viennacon
Just wait. They’ll force the boy scouts to have gays, and then a homosexual child rapist/murderer will be caught operating as a scout leader.

Then, the whole group gets shut down, and the secularists, Christian Haters , gays, and feminNazis finally get their way.

Again

11 posted on 03/04/2013 6:15:56 PM PST by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All the alarms have been shorted, apparently. To think, with all the problems - including a mad central government working to checkmate political will while continuing preparations for an actual shooting civil war - the bizarre preoccupation of the chattering classes might be something other than this obsession with officially embracing deviant behavior.

There is no end to these distractions.

12 posted on 03/04/2013 6:29:47 PM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: ilgipper

Revalations


13 posted on 03/04/2013 6:31:16 PM PST by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When there’s no difference in Democrat and Republican; then what’s the use? Most people will take the real thing over the carbon copy every time. - The government has its finger in EVERYTHING.


14 posted on 03/04/2013 6:39:07 PM PST by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: ilgipper

The Republican party nominated a man who had run against Ted Kennedy, proclaiming that he was more able to deliver the homosexual agenda than Ted, the man who became the Governor who allowed gay marriage, and who in the 2012 election repeated his support for homosexualizing the military and the Boy Scouts, positions that he had held at least since 1994.

Mitt Romney, and the party’s acceptance of him, has had an effect not only on the GOP but on the nation.

Things that republicans could claim to be just a few years ago, or even one year ago, can’t be claimed today.


15 posted on 03/04/2013 7:08:39 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

16 posted on 03/04/2013 7:52:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nicolle Wallace-—spit!


17 posted on 03/04/2013 8:01:19 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ilgipper
I have never seen an issue take such a 180 degree turn in a 12 month period. A year ago, this issue was political suicide. No state had every approved gay marriage, and only through court manipulation was it even an issue.

We'd been seeing the polls move this way for years, but politicians were still afraid to come out of their closets. Then came last November, and the people actually voted for it in a big way. 4 for 4. Is it any wonder that the politicians are now crawling out from under their rocks to show how much they agree?
18 posted on 03/04/2013 8:08:43 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: ilgipper

Crazy times we live in.
***The end times.

My suggestion is to look through the taglines on each thread to determine the sheep and the goats.


19 posted on 03/04/2013 9:59:19 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this gets rid of the GOP then I am for it.


20 posted on 03/04/2013 10:04:53 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: OKRA2012

Is that supposed to be sarcasm? Dick Cheney has promoted homosexual causes for many years.


21 posted on 03/05/2013 4:34:51 AM PST by Varda
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To: highball
We'd been seeing the polls move this way for years

Voting hasn't reflected that. Every time it has been on a ballot it has been defeated...and by a significant margin. Usually at least 60/40. Even California overwhelmingly voted that way, which opened the door to the massive 'H8' campaign that has pretty much led the push toward it since. When it was recast as 'Hate' or bigotry or whatever attack word one wants to use. Courts started getting more activist to provide headlines for that side, etc. It is boilerplate for the left for the past 40-50 years to browbeat the public toward their views. Global warming has seen the same tactics to demean the opposition and belittle them, at the same time using propaganda relentlessly across all news and entertainment. It is effective much of the time.

22 posted on 03/05/2013 4:48:36 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: ilgipper
Every time it has been on a ballot it has been defeated...and by a significant margin.

Not in 2012; it carried in four states.

23 posted on 03/05/2013 3:21:25 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: ilgipper
"We'd been seeing the polls move this way for years"

Voting hasn't reflected that. Every time it has been on a ballot it has been defeated...and by a significant margin. Usually at least 60/40. Even California overwhelmingly voted that way, which opened the door to the massive 'H8' campaign...


Um, you're a few years behind the times, my FRiend.

California's original ban, in 2000, passed 61% to 39%. Prop 8, eight years later, passed 52% to 48%, a fairly steep drop. It looks like the trend has continued - it's now polling 61% for gay marriage. I don't know anyone who is seriously suggesting that Prop 8 would pass today.

And then there was last Election Day, where gay activists went 4-for-4 at the polls. A clean sweep.

We don't have to like the direction of public opinion trends, but we have to at least acknowledge reality. Hiding our heads in the sand is not a conservative attribute.
24 posted on 03/05/2013 5:30:33 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

The Obama voters (low information) came out in large numbers in those blue states.


25 posted on 03/09/2013 2:53:10 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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