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Reid: Gun Control "More Important Than Preventing Imagined Tyranny"
RealClearPolitics Video ^ | April 17, 2013

Posted on 04/17/2013 11:12:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nevada) mocked Second Amendment rights activists while announcing his support for a ban on assault weapons and limits to high-capacity magazine clips on the Senate floor today.

REID: In the 1920s, organized crime was committing murders with machine guns. So Congress dramatically limited the sale and transfer of machine guns. As a result, machine guns all but disappeared from the streets. We can and should take the same common-sense approach to safeguard Americans from modern weapons of war.

That is why I will vote for Senator Dianne Feinstein’s assault weapons ban – because we must strike a better balance between the right to defend ourselves and the right of every child in America to grow up safe from gun violence....

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TOPICS: Nevada; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; banglist; guncontrol; harryreid; nevada; nuttyreid; pinkyreid; secondamendment
Since a Marlin Model 60 with a tubular magazine could do almost the same thing as a Bushmaster AR-15, will we soon see only single shot weapons allowed, then none?
1 posted on 04/17/2013 11:12:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

None of the amendments proposed by the Democrats would have prevented Sandy Hook or Aurora. Directing anti-gun legislation at law abiding citizens DOES NOT DETER CRIMINALS, CRAZIES, OR TYRANTS- IT EMPOWERS THEM.


2 posted on 04/17/2013 11:19:16 PM PDT by RC one (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Reid: Gun Control "More Important Than Preventing Imagined Tyranny"

Guess again, Dingy Harry

I wonder...will the NRA finally stop supporting this anti-gun, liberal POS?

3 posted on 04/17/2013 11:20:24 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rope. Full auto, high-capacity rope.


4 posted on 04/17/2013 11:22:08 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dingy Harry is just gunning for a top ranking lifetime position in the new Politburo.


5 posted on 04/17/2013 11:24:38 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What if that tyranny ISN’T “imagined”, Harry?


6 posted on 04/17/2013 11:33:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gun control is only a concern to 4% of Americans.

Control is a concern for 100% of the DNC.


7 posted on 04/17/2013 11:35:19 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
... and the right of every child in America to grow up safe ...

... from the genocidal commie Democrats who have slaughtered 50 Million babies.

8 posted on 04/17/2013 11:37:46 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Avoiding appearing as a tyrant is more important that democrat party policy goals.

Never in my life have a seen so many people believing that the government is building the structure of a police state. That belief id maistream these days, left and right.

They need to get busy making sure that nobody COULD image tyranny from them.


9 posted on 04/17/2013 11:39:12 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those machine guns never just “disappeared.” They’re still around. Of course, they’re very expensive now and the average Joe can’t afford to buy or feed one.


10 posted on 04/17/2013 11:41:07 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dingy, you took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. That is more important than anything you politicos imagine is right. “...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” The Second Amendment of the Constitution — remember it.


11 posted on 04/17/2013 11:41:55 PM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I had a conversation with a lady while waiting in line at Staples.

I was getting some copies bound and we got into a conversation about all of my copies which contained my research on "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."

It was a lively conversation and she seemed interested.

When I began to mention the amendments to the Constitution she immediately asked me about how I felt about the 2nd amendment.

I said, "All of the amendments are there to protect our basic liberties."

"But we really don't need THAT amendment, don't you agree?"

I said, "Without the 2nd amendment our leaders will have free reign over us like what happened in Germany only 60 years ago."

Boy, she did not like that. She said, "Obama would never do that."

"How do you know he would not abuse his power?"

You should have seen the look on her face. She was definitely perplexed and fixated at the same time.

All I could think was that I was looking at person who has a Heil Hitler mentality and she will only believe it when it is on her front door.

People are in a trance.

12 posted on 04/17/2013 11:48:15 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gun Control "More Important Than Preventing Imagined Tyranny"

Gun Control "More Important Than Imagined Prevention of Tragedy"

13 posted on 04/17/2013 11:49:06 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"REID: In the 1920s, organized crime was committing murders with machine guns."

He must be older than I thought.
14 posted on 04/17/2013 11:54:09 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Slyfox
People are in a trance.

I have a tendency to think that because I follow the news and try to stay fairly informed that other Republicans/Conservatives do too. That is definitely not always the case. I know she was probably a Dem, but we need to inform ones on our side too.

15 posted on 04/18/2013 12:38:08 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gun control is tyranny as well.


16 posted on 04/18/2013 1:10:46 AM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: Slyfox

It’s the ignorant apathetic lethargy of the unwashed masses.


17 posted on 04/18/2013 1:33:53 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Reid: Gun Control "More Important Than Preventing Imagined Tyranny"

I agree. It's LESS important, however, than preventing real tyranny, you know, like what they're trying to impose.

18 posted on 04/18/2013 1:48:10 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Imaginary tyranny ? From the 1920’s to just after WWII my father & his family had to put up with the armed auxilury of the Democratic Party aka the Ku Klux Klan .

This is the real history of the Democratic Party. You are a peasant you are viewed by the Democratic politicians as being to stupid to wipe your own butt ,flush the toilet & finally wash your hands in the proper order. politicians like Diane Feinstein ,Charlie Schumer, Mike Bloomberg are politicians who would stuff millions of Americans into boxcars for a one way train ride to “reeducation centers” if they can get government employees(think DHS/FBI/local cops) to follow orders to do so.

It is the DUTY of the citizens of this country to be doubting Thomas’s as far as government is concerned if we do not do this history shows us that things go from freedom to slavery & death if you doubt this all you have to do is look at the history of the 20th century from the genocide of Armenian Christians in 1915 to the orgy of blood lust in Rwanda in 1998 government will kill you the minority citizen that is going to be scapegoated for political gain.

Ignore these facts at your own peril.


19 posted on 04/18/2013 2:22:09 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Nebr FAL owner

XLNT witness to tyranny


20 posted on 04/18/2013 2:25:39 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet (Uranus)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting, since the entire Constitution was ratified to prevent, what was then, imaginary tyranny.

All tyranny is imaginary until it is real, and then it is a bit difficult to stop it.


21 posted on 04/18/2013 3:36:47 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: beaversmom; Slyfox
People are in a trance.
I have a tendency to think that because I follow the news and try to stay fairly informed that other Republicans/Conservatives do too. That is definitely not always the case. I know she was probably a Dem, but we need to inform ones on our side too.
When my middle child was in her 20s, I remarked that I used to listen to “News Radio.” She was amazed to learn that, because from about the time she was 4 I had begun to treat the news as an advertisement for something which I wouldn’t buy on a bet. Which is what it is.
People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty and justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary. - Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations (Book I, Ch 10)
It is especially impossible to prevent such meetings of journalists; from the founding era communication among newspaper printers was promoted (by subsidizing the mailing of newspapers from printer to printer) to facilitate the propagation of information across the country. But then came the telegraph, and on its heels the Associated Press wire service. The AP newswire is a continuous virtual meeting of "People of the same trade” of journalism. The AP started in the middle of the Nineteenth Century, and quickly aroused suspicions about its concentration of propaganda power. The AP responded that it was a consortium of newspapers - and newspapers were, at the time, notorious for not agreeing about much of anything. This, claimed the AP, proved that the AP itself was objective.

First of all, anyone or any institution which claims to be objective is engaged in sophistry. Nobody can know that they themselves - or an organization of people who agree with themselves - are objective; in fact IMHO believing in your own objectivity is the very defining characteristic of the being subjective, the very opposite of objectivity. The term “sophistry” derives from the ancient Greek “sophist,” a term for someone who claimed to be wise. Sophists were notorious for their slippery logic and argumentation, and made their name a byword for unfair argumentation, ad hominum attacks, and so forth. And the journalist’s claim of “objectivity” is intended to the same purpose as the Sophist’s claims of “wisdom” - to shut down dispassionate analysis of facts with logic.

Secondly, who now thinks of newspapers as being "notorious for not agreeing about much of anything?” The AP has systematically homogenized the news, while relegating the explicit opinions of the individual printers (formerly what newspapers were really all about) to the “editorial page” ghetto. The AP “style guide” was recently in the news for ruling out the expression “illegal alien,” for example. What is “style guidance” of that sort but the systematic censorship of particular thoughts from the news? It is Newspeak.

At the start of the Twentieth Century the term "liberal" meant the same in America as it still does in the rest of the world - essentially, what is called "conservatism" in American Newspeak. Of course we "American Conservatives" are not the ones who oppose development and liberty, so in that sense we are not conservative at all. We actually are liberals.

But in America, "liberalism" was given its American Newspeak - essentially inverted - meaning in the 1920s (source: Safire's New Political Dictionary). The fact that the American socialists have acquired a word to exploit is bad enough; the real disaster is that we do not now have a word which truly descriptive of our own political perspective. We only have the smear words which the socialists have assigned to us.

And make no mistake, in America "conservative" is inherently a negative connotation - we know that just as surely as we know that every American marketer loves to boldly proclaim that whatever product he is flogging is NEW!

American journalism, for all that it is fronted by numerous individual newspapers and broadcast stations, is by now a single entity which, as Adam Smith’s prediction suggests, is nothing but “a conspiracy against the public."

22 posted on 04/18/2013 3:38:30 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Background checks are a great idea. Let’s start with Obomba and perhaps take a closer look at yours Hairy.


23 posted on 04/18/2013 3:55:56 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Um, in a word: no. You got it wrong again Harry.


24 posted on 04/18/2013 4:20:53 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: smokingfrog

Those machine guns never just “disappeared.” They’re still around. Of course, they’re very expensive now and the average Joe can’t afford to buy or feed one.


The point I would make is that the machine guns in question WERE used by gangsters. Rifles are a vanishingly small factor in so-called “gun violence.”

Dingey Harry damaged his own arguement.


25 posted on 04/18/2013 4:25:23 AM PDT by Peet (Come back with a warrant.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More Important Than Preventing Imagined Tyranny"

It's funny...those defending the Constitution are accused of "imagining" tyranny, which has significant historical precedence.

But those on the left have no problems "imagining one life saved" as a result of their laws.

26 posted on 04/18/2013 5:21:34 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To the Honorable Harry M. Reid,

Please feel free to impregnate yourself at your earliest convenience. Repeatedly.

Sincerely,

Myself


27 posted on 04/18/2013 5:28:56 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: meadsjn
... and the right of every child in America to grow up safe free ...
28 posted on 04/18/2013 5:32:44 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nevada) mocked Second Amendment rights activists

Can we get the NRA to change his 'B' rating now?

29 posted on 04/18/2013 5:34:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: MachIV

>>It’s the ignorant apathetic lethargy of the unwashed masses.<<

Precisely. Even members of my own family fit into this category. When I start talking about the need for preparation supplies, and how the government is no longer for the American people, using every historical example I can think of; I’m usually met with jest and mockery as a response. I really don’t know how people can be so conditioned to have their heads so fixed firmly in the sand.

But when things go south, they’ll be flocking here for safety, I guarantee it.


30 posted on 04/18/2013 6:05:26 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gun control IS tyranny you idiot (Reid)...


31 posted on 04/18/2013 6:05:58 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This Nations founders would have taken dingy Harry to the woodshed. What a weak pathetic man.


32 posted on 04/18/2013 8:11:23 AM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Mind!)
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