Posted on 10/18/2013 9:03:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The future of the GOP?
With the government shutdown and debt ceiling fight in the rearview mirror, Republicans can move on to more important matters — like determining which of the party's warring factions will control the GOP going forward.
The recent fiscal fist-fighting ostensibly pit Republicans against Democrats, but the real power struggle was between Tea Partiers and the GOP establishment. The conflict, bubbling beneath the surface for some time, finally boiled over into a messy public spat that, even as the shutdown came to a close, showed no signs of stopping.
The fissure has been growing since 2010, when the Tea Party ousted establishment candidates in favor of their own contenders. What was then a populist revolt has since rocketed congressional neophytes like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) to the forefront of the party's ideological and tactical debates, giving the hard right newfound legislative muscle. Just look at how Cruz and company dragged the party into a shutdown strategy that even Karl Rove said "no sentient being" believed would ever work.
As the shutdown came to a close Wednesday night, Cruz seized the microphone to mourn his failed strategy — and to once again lash out at his colleagues. In a bold display of hubris, he accused his fellow Republican senators of spoiling his gambit by "bombing our own troops."
Moderate establishment types struck back. Perhaps the oldest of the old guard, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — who called Cruz and his cohorts "wacko birds" earlier this year, and who criticized the shutdown tactic from the start — took a victory lap on Twitter.....
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The service industry--hotels, restaurants, fast food places, retail stores, etc., agriculture, and the construction industry--use low skill labor. The more you have the more you can depress wages. It has nothing to do with imports.
Even if they get some cheap Mexican labor in residence, how long can it last? Unions will be on them like stink on you know what.
LOL. The unions have signed on to the Gang of 8 deal that will bring in tens of millions of workers over the next decade. They see it as a way to increase their membership. The union leaders are working closely with Obama. Once the demographic balance has shifted permanently to the Dems, they can get the political changes they need to bring them back in power.
Watch and listen to what SEIU International Executive Vice President Eliseo Medina had to say in 2009 about amnesty
And the Chamber of Commerce supports amnesty as well.
Businesses that need cheap labor should lobby for guest worker programs, not open boarders.
They are. The GOP and their corporate paymasters want to double the size of the guest worker program that will bring in more white collar workers to take American jobs. It is part of the Gang of 8 bill that passed the Senate. And the House Judiciary committee has already passed a STEM bill to bring in more scientists, engineers, computer programmers, etc.
Well stated. Concise, clear and correct.
Even if it was, do you care? Is this not a fight worth having? I don’t know about you but I’m tired of wanna-be armchair grand chess masters obsessing over Soros-inspired/funded left-wing media democrat plots when we need to be getting down and dirty and playing checkers with the GOPe. The future of this country is not Republican vs. Democrat. It’s Tea Party vs. Republican Party. In my mind, primarying a RINO just to have a Democrat win is a victory for us.
For all intents and purpose, the GOPe and the Democratic Party are one in the same.
That’s why all this talk about a third party is ridiculous...We need a second party, first.
Wasn’t the original strategy of the Tea Party to run as Republicans?
I seem to recall that the pre-2010 Tea Party chose not to form into a separate party, since that would guarantee failure by splitting the conservative vote and giving the future to the Democratic-Socialists.
So, to avoid that Third Party Curse, the Tea Partiers ran as Republicans. After all, Republicans stand for lower taxes, less government and more liberty, right? Well they did once, anyway.
Seems the earlier strategy actually worked. The Tea Party has made inroads into the GOP camp and now the GOP wants them out of the tent.
Uhhh ... no, sorry, we’re not leaving. In fact, that stuff about lower taxes and all sounds pretty good right about now. Yeah, it sounds rather nice...
As ever the optimist I agree ... it is time for a third party, and the tea party is the way to go.
Um, nothing new. Goldwater ring a bell?
I hope so. And I know what side I'm on - - the side that doesn't consort with the scumbag Democrats.
Wholeheartedly agree. This is a civil war and it’s going to be bloody. This has been a long time coming since the days of Goldwater and Rockefeller.
LOL! At least one of us is.
“The unions have signed on to the Gang of 8 deal “
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You have made my main point. The Mexicans will no longer be CHEAP labor.
“it is time for a third party, and the tea party is the way to go.
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How many Dimocraps do you expect to see voting for a Tea Party candidate?
That CR surrender was of 100 million barrels of pork each worth 17 billlion $$$. And that’s the way it should be presented by conservatives. Any so called Republican who voted for this os a pig...
Well said.
Put the Chamber of Commerce, Wall Street Journal, Republican establishment back into majority power and we will have eight more years of George Bush under a different name.
It is no accident that George Bush was hopeless on immigration and it is no accident that the next big battle will be over immigration. Look to see the establishment Republican party work treacherously with Obama to achieve amnesty and thus spell the end of any hope of conservative governance.
“The “war” will be between the elitist RINO faction on one side (with almost no invested constituency beyond the monied country club, especially true in winnable red states)and the rank-and-file conservatives, values voters, tea party activists, and many libertarians on the other side.”
Two of those things are not like the others. You figure out which ones.
I’ll take the Sarah Cruz Freedom party any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Thomas Sowell said some months back that he felt that the march toward socialism was unstoppable without revolution and that he felt that would not happen. I don't see it happening either unless we have a complete financial collapse which is not all that unlikely.
Yep. Easier to import voters than persuade Americans that Socialism is good for us.
Sooner or later we will have to admit that the Republicans are not just stupid, they are complicit in the destruction of the American Constitution, and establishment of an oligarchy.
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