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Ted Cruz vs. Rand Paul: A GOP road to nowhere
CNN ^ | March 17, 2014 | Julian Zelizer

Posted on 03/18/2014 1:37:04 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

Editor's note: Julian Zelizer is a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University. He is the author of "Jimmy Carter" and "Governing America."

(CNN) -- ...The weaknesses of both men—Cruz in terms of his style and Paul in terms of his rhetoric—point out how desperate the GOP is to find someone who can build a broad coalition, something that is essential for a presidential victory, particularly when Republicans will likely be facing a formidable candidate.

The problems of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie have been a huge blow to the party, and there are not many alternatives at this point who are willing to run to replace a figure who, in terms of style of governance and rhetoric, would have a better chance of appealing to voters beyond the base. This is the reason former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is getting so much buzz, as potentially the only other person who can fill this void.

If Republicans can't find some alternative and the primaries revolve around the tension between Ted Cruz and Rand Paul, Democrats will be in excellent position to retain the White House in 2016.

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TOPICS: Florida; Kentucky; New Jersey; Texas; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016elections; chrischristie; democratshill; florida; jebbush; julianzelizer; kentucky; marcorubio; newjersey; tedcruz; texas
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To: 9YearLurker

Right now my big issue against Paul is that he has already come out against conservatism and is making his argument for changing the GOP into a more liberal, pro-homosexual marriage, party.


61 posted on 03/18/2014 8:59:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Anyone who thinks running another Bush in 2016 is a good idea is either an idiot or has ulterior motives.


62 posted on 03/19/2014 7:57:41 AM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Cruz has also been a master of the filibuster, employing variations of the tactic to bring the Senate to a standstill.
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Like that’s a bad thing.......


63 posted on 03/19/2014 10:02:50 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: grania

I was all for Cruz/Paul. But I am disheartened.
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I’m sorry, but it will take some extreme situation, or a miracle from God, for me to ever vote for Rand Paul after he has endorsed Mitch McConnell in the GOP Primary in KY.


64 posted on 03/19/2014 10:06:28 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Palin/Paul/Cruz/West/Nugent...

Pick two
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Any one of the following 3 Tickets:

Palin/Cruz

Cruz/West

Palin/West


65 posted on 03/19/2014 10:10:35 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: Cruz_West_Paul2016

you have to keep in mind that with a Cruz/Ticket, an hispanic on the ticket,especially as president will take those western states Obama took,especially New Mexico/Colorado/Nevada.
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I could not agree more. I’ve said, for months, that if we ever hope to win the White House again, we better have someone with a Hispanic surname on the ballot.


66 posted on 03/19/2014 10:15:55 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: Din Maker
So who do we have that's viable? I wish that Ted Cruz had given a rousing, inspirational speech about how we need to protect US borders and get the unassimilated and invading hordes out of the US. How Crimea was a vote expressing the will of a people and Ukraine's government change was a coup.

Instead, he seemed to wave the flag and back of the Obama/McCain Doctirne. That's what Romney did on Benghazi, and it just might be what cause him the election.

Is there ANYONE under 70 years old who has enough experience and historical knowledge to get it right? Maybe we could dust off Dan Quayle....I'm not kidding. Or maybe Jeff Sessions?

67 posted on 03/19/2014 10:16:03 AM PDT by grania
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Hispanics don’t care about race. They just want “free stuff”.
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That’s not true. I live in Texas and when it comes to the work ethic, I’ll put those little Mexican guys up against the sorry-ass, lazy, Disability-Check-Recipient RED NECKS any freakin’ day.


68 posted on 03/19/2014 10:21:02 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: peeps36

I would rather see a Cruz/ West ticket then Cruz / Paul.
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AMEN!!!


69 posted on 03/19/2014 10:22:21 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: ansel12

Right now my big issue against Paul is that he has already come out against conservatism and is making his argument for changing the GOP into a more liberal, pro-homosexual marriage, party.
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AND he endorsed Mitch McConnell.


70 posted on 03/19/2014 10:26:37 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: grania

Sarah Palin “gets it right” most of the time. But, the media has so demonized her..... What about Allen West?


71 posted on 03/19/2014 10:32:50 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: Din Maker
What about Allen West?

I thought he supported the Trayvon Martin supporters. And I believe he voted for those bogus "reparations" to the descendents of black farmers. Besides that, if he can't win an admittedly gerrymandered HOR seat in FL, he's not an exceptional vote getter.

And may I be honest? People might not say it in polls, but I'm not sure we have the stomach for another black president. At least, not for several decades. Allen West could change my mind, by proving himself in the US Senate for instance.

72 posted on 03/19/2014 10:41:40 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

I’ve thought the same thing. I’m not so sure that America is ready for another Black President. My cousin told me that, if we ever get Obama out of the White House, she would never vote for another Black man.


73 posted on 03/19/2014 11:22:18 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Well there went my candidates, they are the ones i wanted to vote on but if the liberals say they are weak then i guess we better pick some one else, duh.


74 posted on 03/20/2014 1:46:45 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: x
Limited experience, though is a problem both men face (I know -- lack of experience didn't hurt Barack Obama, but how did that work out for the country?).

Barry Benghazi's problem isn't lack of experience. His problem is a downright evil policy agenda. He's quite successful at destroying America. His disastrous foreign policies, monetary policies, tax policies, environmental policies, and his crown jewel: 0bamacare, do not represent failure on his part. Quite the contrary. The destruction is going according to plan.

So ... I'm not at all concerned about Ted Cruz's or Rand Paul's supposed lack of experience. I'm much more interested in their pro-America, conservative, constitutionalist policies and agendas. Experience can be gained.

75 posted on 03/20/2014 2:10:34 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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