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Ted Cruz’s hard-line stance renders border crisis key 2016 issue
MSNBC ^ | August 1, 2014 | Benjy Sarlin

Posted on 08/01/2014 8:23:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: All; PoloSec

Read his bio:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

Then remember that he’s only 43!!


21 posted on 08/02/2014 12:18:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: GeronL

It’s simpler to just build to a set pattern and go all 2,000 miles at one go. Break it into 20 sections of 100 miles, bid it out, and apply bonuses for early completion and severe penalties for being late. It would be finished in less than one year.


22 posted on 08/02/2014 12:55:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BobL

A half a fence is not much better than no fence. A half a fence around a swimming pool will not keep neighborhood kids out, they will just walk around it.


23 posted on 08/02/2014 12:56:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I agree. I like the double fence idea with the road in the middle patrolled by Humvee’s and hungry Rottweilers.


24 posted on 08/02/2014 1:01:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Travis McGee

“A half a fence is not much better than no fence. A half a fence around a swimming pool will not keep neighborhood kids out, they will just walk around it.”

It’s a LOT EASIER to walk around 20 feet of fencing than it is to walk (or drive) around 100 miles of fencing in an inhospitable region - LET’S GET STARTED ON IT. And if they do get some Russian ATVs to get through those areas, then FINISH THE FENCE.

That’s all I’m saying...right now, I hear NOTHING regarding a fence.


25 posted on 08/02/2014 1:42:53 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Travis McGee

Great text and picture comment! Thanks!


26 posted on 08/02/2014 2:35:38 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: BobL

I agree in principle, but history teaches that a bill to build 750 miles of fence gets downgraded to 100 to 50 to “congress certifies the border is secure.”

Only an ironclad bill to build all 2,000 miles, or nothing, will mean a damn in the end.


27 posted on 08/02/2014 4:20:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I can tell that you are very passionate about a border fence. The same way I am about other measures to curb illegal immigration. Sadly, I doubt that either of our solutions will be enacted given the present political and societal climate.

A fence might be a deterrent...no doubt. But using your “locking the house” analogy...of course I lock my house. But if I put a huge sign in the front yard that says I have electronics and a million dollars inside and I won’t prosecute you if you break in and rob me? People will tear the roof off in order to get in.

I have wondered why illegal immigration has risen. I have wondered why this recent influx did not migrate to South America where most border fences are a strip of barbed wire. If they are indeed in danger (which I don’t believe), going to one of those countries would be closer and they could understand the language and culture. There is no benefit to going there.

There a whole host of reasons as to why this is happening. We can debate the value of our ideas until the cows come home...but it really won’t make any difference in the long run. The powers that be aren’t going to do jack squat.


28 posted on 08/02/2014 6:22:47 PM PDT by berdie
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“Only an ironclad bill to build all 2,000 miles, or nothing, will mean a damn in the end.”

You’re on to something. One you add fuzz, as in not quite a complete fence, then you give discretion to whoever is president. If we get another Bush-type in office, that will mean 600 miles of fencing in areas so remote that no one crosses there anyway, while simultaneously hanging out a big “WELCOME ALL” sign at the easy points to cross.


29 posted on 08/02/2014 6:50:16 PM PDT by BobL
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