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The mystery of the Trump coalition: Pollsters can’t get a read on his supporters.
The Politico ^ | July 17, 2015 | Ben Schreckinger and Cate Martel

Posted on 07/19/2015 9:10:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: nickcarraway

What do you know about his work background Nick? After all, you know so much more about Trump than the rest of us, like the ‘fact’ that he wasn’t worth anywhere near $9 billion dollars. Enlighten us some more Nick. And don’t feel in any way constrained by the facts. They’ve never constrained you before.


21 posted on 07/19/2015 10:22:35 PM PDT by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: Marie

What makes me laugh is this guy seems to think Trump has targeted all this little demographic groups. The truth is he’s speaking about the ONE issue which EVERYONE cares about. He’s not targeting demographic groups, he’s targeting ISSUES.


22 posted on 07/19/2015 10:23:57 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Lopeover

I CAN’T HEAR YOU. LOUDER!!!!!


23 posted on 07/19/2015 10:24:33 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Aliska; matthew fuller

I believe he mentioned in his Phoenix speech that SuperPACs had been set-up to support him but that he didn’t ask them to.


24 posted on 07/19/2015 10:25:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm reminded of an old video clip of Trump on CNN, I believe it was for the taping of a Larry King segment or some such. It must have been 15-25 years ago.

He may have been addressing Larry King (I can't really remember) but the point is that the person he was talking to had some bad breath going on.

Trump, incredulous, bluntly said words to the effect: "Your breath smells terribly bad. It's quite offensive. Has no one told you this?"

The 2016 election, and Washington DC in general, could sure use a large dose of that type of apolitical candor!

With someone like Trump (or Perot, for instance) I could forgive a lot of policy disagreements, just to have somebody in the White House who will fearlessly call a spade a spade.

Donald Trump is somewhat reminiscent of H. Ross Perot back in 1992. Perot probably would have won the general election had he not dropped out and then suddenly jumped back in with 30 days to go before the election. Even so, he garnered more than 20% of the popular vote, if I remember correctly, which resulted in Bill Clinton being elected by a distinct minority of the People.

Trump is for real. He's going to have to become more deeply knowledgeable and nuanced about many issues, and he's going to have to be a little more tactful (while preserving his candor), but Trump's in-your-face honesty and frankness is going to carry him quite far, IMHO. Trump should not be underestimated or dismissed.

I, for one, hope Donald Trump starts to take this race very seriously (if he hasn't already) and I further hope that he surrounds himself with some trustworthy friends and consultants to help him with his style, presentation, and the like.

Trump doesn't need to radically change, but he probably needs to be a bit more careful in what he says, if he really intends to engage in a prolonged and exhausting Presidential campaign. Steady wins the race.

Above all else, Trump needs to hit his detractors hard, especially his potential Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton.

The lamestream media and the Establishment elites are going to go full bore in trying to damage and discredit Trump. I hope they aren't successful, and my gut is telling me that Trump is already beyond their ability to control or destroy.

And that is a very refreshing feeling.

We're in for a fierce and very entertaining fight, and at this point there's no question in my mind that Trump will be a formidable candidate.

Did I hear right that Cruz met with Trump recently? I would love to have been a fly on the wall in that meeting!

Win or lose, Donald Trump is raising the level of discussion about issues which really matter to a lot of Americans. He's obviously not couching his positions within the traditional PC framework which dominates both sides of the fake spectrum, and therefore he's already got most politicians quaking in their boots and pissing down their legs.

I'm glad to have Donald Trump in the race, and I hope he sticks around long enough to force a open, honest, and candid debate about many issues which would otherwise be handled with the typical empty, blasé inside-the-beltway PC rhetoric.

This 2016 Presidential race is going to be something to behold...

25 posted on 07/19/2015 10:27:16 PM PDT by sargon
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To: matthew fuller

The URL that I posted in reply #10 was the location of an article that was originally written by Wayne Allen Root.


26 posted on 07/19/2015 10:31:51 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Malcom X is Obama's baby daddy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for that. At least he hasn’t had any $30K a plate fundraisers yet. I don’t really expect it either.


27 posted on 07/19/2015 10:36:19 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Hildy

Thats a spot on post Hildy— love it.


28 posted on 07/19/2015 10:39:07 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“It’s a strange coalition of people,” said Murray, “We can’t pin them down... It appears he’s cherry-picked individual voters.”

That’s funny, if not absurd! Some university ivory tower guy cannot understand the feelings of the average American, therefore it must be a devious and clever scheme on Trump’s part!


29 posted on 07/19/2015 10:46:38 PM PDT by 2tipsea (What can I say?)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Really. I’d never vote for him but his stance on the issue is exactly the same as mine. I was all in on Walker a good 2 years ago but Cruz is clearly head and shoulders above this field now. There’s nobody else i can support.


30 posted on 07/19/2015 11:41:12 PM PDT by wiggen (#JeSuisCharlie)
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To: sargon

Perot was too short, and had a high pitched annoying voice. His chances of winning were poor at best. On top of that he acted paranoid about someone crashing his daughter’s wedding and dropped out of the race, to rejoin later. He was a strange character. But he was patriotic.


31 posted on 07/19/2015 11:44:43 PM PDT by entropy12 (Audi Murphy & Alvin York are REAL war heroes for extraordinary bravery. McCain just a bad pilot.)
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To: wiggen
I was all in on Walker a good 2 years ago but Cruz is clearly head and shoulders above this field now. There’s nobody else i can support.

My test for weather I could support a candidate in the primaries is wether or not they will grow the party if they run in the general. Cruz, Trump and Walker all make that minimum threshold, the rest of the field will leave the party in much the same place, or in the case of Bush, will actually shrink the party. I have thought Trump was a buffoon, but quite frankly he is growing on me.

32 posted on 07/20/2015 2:50:20 AM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I read the first paragraph. I didn’t need a bunch of pablum to tell me why Donald Trump.
I think it’s great Trump is stirring the pot.I enjoy the fact he’s getting the Republicans riled up. I won’t vote for him.


33 posted on 07/20/2015 3:18:35 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Polling science hasn’t yet learned how to deal with crazy people. /sarc


34 posted on 07/20/2015 3:24:18 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: entropy12

Perot started to get close enough to win and the “establishment” then threatened his weak spot. He really didn’t want to be President. They knew it. He was gone. Trump may have to be shot.


35 posted on 07/20/2015 5:08:07 AM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: sargon

“I, for one, hope Donald Trump... surrounds himself with some trustworthy friends and consultants to help him with his style, presentation, and the like.”

And not just on those superficial aspects. Carry that into the White House. Being able to identify, hire, and listen to competent, smart people can result in huge success. Obviously, Trump knows how to do that. Ditto for Reagan.


36 posted on 07/20/2015 5:51:29 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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