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To: TChad

Ok, bear in mind I’m only getting one half of this exchange. That is because I stopped reading obot word-walls some time ago. I used to read them, but the obots abused the privilege. They posted ever longer, never-ending word walls, evidently under the misconception that One, what they were saying was in any way fresh or innovative (as opposed to the same tired verbiage they’d already posted hundreds of times), and Two, that those of us on the receiving end had nothing better to do than read mindnumbingly repetitious boilerplate.

Wrong on both counts.

Anyway, back to your post. It is inconceivable to me that anyone could in any way, shape or form have implied that Obama could not produce the LFBC [either the one he claims he found, or via HI records]. [Unless of course it was argued that he could not produce it bc it did not exist. That, prior to the forgery, was true.] Literally inconceivable.

I read your patient, well-stated, factual and accurate reply. You demonstrated far more accommodation than I could have mustered in your place. If some obot implied to me that Obama *couldn’t* obtain a LFBC, here is how I would have answered:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Not as eloquent as your reply, but certainly on point. :)


77 posted on 07/31/2015 6:09:00 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Thanks for your responses, and your kind words.

The troll's posts are not entirely without merit, in that they offer some insight into what passes for critical thought in the minds of leftists. Here's my paraphrase of one such "thought":

"Mitt Romney only produced a short form, so Obama's short form should have been good enough!"

No serious questions were raised about Romney's short form birth certificate, because it confirmed what was already widely known. Romney's parents were national figures long before he ran for president. His parents' personal histories, including the story of his birth, were in the public record.

Here's the important thing: Mitt Romney's parents were both fully-adult American citizens when he was born. EACH of Romney's parents was able to convey U.S. citizenship to Mitt, no matter where on earth he was born. That is, Mitt's mother could have conveyed her U.S. citizenship to Mitt even without an American father, and Mitt's father could have conveyed his U.S. citizenship without an American mother. Only one fully-adult American parent was needed to convey citizenship, and Mitt had two.

However, had the issue of his short-form vs. long-form birth certificate somehow been seriously raised, Romney would have resolved it in days. Not in four years, in DAYS. He would NEVER have permitted anything like the court-martial of Dr. Terry Lakin to occur so he could pursue a nasty partisan political stunt. He would NEVER have tolerated widespread doubts that he was qualified to serve. Mitt is a decent man.

Obama's circumstance was entirely different. Neither of Obama's parents could convey American citizenship to Obama, had he been born outside the U.S. Instead of having two citizenship-conveying parents, Obama had exactly zero. Obama's father was Kenyan, and Obama's mother at age 18 was one year too young to convey citizenship. (If anyone still wants confirmation of that last fact, read section "7 FAM 1133.2-2 Original Provisions and Amendments to Section 301" in this State Department document: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf).

Had Obama been born outside the United States, he would not be an American citizen. That's why it was so critically important that he provide the best documentation available that he had indeed been born in the United States. Until 2011, he chose not to provide that documentation, so he could pursue a political stunt.

(I bet only about 5% of Americans know what I posted above, thanks to the successful information embargo on this subject by our vile leftist media.)

79 posted on 07/31/2015 11:55:41 PM PDT by TChad
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