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The age of banana Republicans: Scorched earth tactics are damaging the spirit of the US constitution
The Financial Times ^ | October 11, 2015 | Edward Luce

Posted on 10/11/2015 3:03:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The problem with labels is they shut down thought. According to Webster’s, a conservative is someone who embraces “the value of established or traditional practices”. It is hard to find a worse description...

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: cruz; gop; liberty; republicans; tedcruz
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1 posted on 10/11/2015 3:03:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Scorched earth tactics are damaging the spirit of the US constitution

Leftist physician - Heal thyself!

2 posted on 10/11/2015 3:09:43 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

were finally getting through


3 posted on 10/11/2015 3:11:16 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

American politics have been fractious since the founding.

Remember Aaron Burr and Alexander hamilton. At least we don’t fight duels anymore. I can give dozens of examples in the years since, but I won’t bother since the Financial Times doesn’t care anyway.

Republicans shouldn’t worry about the Financial Times and their bogus analysis. They even stoop to using an irrelevant meaning of “conservative” to try to bolster their argument.

How about they look this one up: “disingenuous”.


4 posted on 10/11/2015 3:11:24 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These leftist morons do not realize that we want to return to the Constitution, not destroy it as they have done.


5 posted on 10/11/2015 3:14:16 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: John Valentine

[[At least we don’t fight duels anymore.]]

Too bad we don’t= the left wouldn’t be pulling the crap they are doing, violating the constitution the way they are, because they would face SERIOUS opposition for it!


6 posted on 10/11/2015 3:14:41 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: John Valentine

“Remember Aaron Burr and Alexander hamilton. At least we don’t fight duels anymore.”

I think we should seriously consider bringing them back.


7 posted on 10/11/2015 3:16:21 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: John Valentine

John Quincy Adams campaign drove Andrew Jacksons wife insane.
Andrew Jackson caused one of Adam’s sons to commit suicide calling him a pimp for the Czar.

Scorched Earth indeed.


8 posted on 10/11/2015 3:20:45 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: ozzymandus
These leftist morons do not realize that we want to return to the Constitution, not destroy it as they have done.

Oh, yes....they do. They understand all too well that millions of REAL Americans want the U.S. Constitution to be followed and applied as it was intended.

That is why they do what it is they do and act the way that they act. They fear the Constitution as much as they hate it. In fact, it is because of their fear of the power the Constitution embodies that they hate it.

9 posted on 10/11/2015 3:21:11 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why do I get a page asking me to subscribe, and when I delete that page I no longer see the page your link directs me to? Not that I really care what the left wing rag has to say.


10 posted on 10/11/2015 3:34:54 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

No idea. I didn’t get that.


11 posted on 10/11/2015 3:38:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary is asked to name one accomplishment in the last six years. We should also ask the current congress the same question. I’m betting both will come up with the same answer, “I don’t know.”


12 posted on 10/11/2015 3:39:29 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From “The Road to Serfdom”, F. A. Hayek;

“The fact that this book was originally written with only the British public in mind does not appear to have seriously affected its intelligibility for the American reader. But there is one point of phraseology which I ought to explain here to forestall any misunderstanding. I use throughout the term “liberal” in the original, nineteenth-century sense in which it is still current in Britain. In current American usage it often means very nearly the opposite of this. It has been part of the camouflage of leftish movements in this country, helped by the muddleheadedness of many who really believe in liberty, that “liberal” has come to mean the advocacy of almost every kind of government control. I am still puzzled why those in the United States who truly believe in liberty should not only have allowed the left to appropriate this almost indispensable term but should even have assisted by beginning to use it themselves as a term of opprobrium. This seems to be particularly regrettable because of the consequent tendency of many true liberals to describe themselves as conservatives.

It is true, of course, that in the struggle against the believers in the all-powerful state the true liberal must sometimes make common cause with the conservative, and in some circumstances, as in contemporary Britain, he has hardly any other way of actively working for his ideals. But true liberalism is still distinct from conservatism, and there is danger in the two being confused. Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic, and power-adorning tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place. A conservative movement, by its very nature, is bound to be a defender of established privilege and to lean on the power of government for the protection of privilege. The essence of the liberal position, however, is the denial of all privilege, if privilege is understood in its proper and original meaning of the state granting and protecting rights to some which are not available on equal terms to others.”(1)

“I use the term “liberal” in the nineteenth-century sense of limited government and free markets, not in the corrupted sense it has acquired in the United States, in which it means almost the opposite.” (2)


(1) Entire passage from The Road to Serfdom, F. A. Hayek, 1956 preface.
(2) this quote from the 1994 introduction by Milton Friedman.


Here is another quote from “The Road to Serfdom”;

“It is true, of course, that in the struggle against the believers in the all-powerful state the true liberal must sometimes make common cause with the conservative, and in some circumstances, as in contemporary Britain, he has hardly any other way of actively working for his ideals. But true liberalism is still distinct from conservatism, and there is danger in the two being confused. Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic, and power-adorning tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place. A conservative movement, by its very nature, is bound to be a defender of established privilege and to lean on the power of government for the protection of privilege. The essence of the liberal position, however, is the denial of all privilege, if privilege is understood in its proper and original meaning of the state granting and protecting rights to some which are not available on equal terms to others.”


13 posted on 10/11/2015 3:41:34 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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I double posted the second part, sorry.


14 posted on 10/11/2015 3:43:21 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Robert DeLong

Instead of deleting anything, just hit Alt-F4.


15 posted on 10/11/2015 3:52:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dynoman
dynoman :" I double posted the second part, sorry"

Not a problem , some of us didn't catch the full meaning the fist time ,
and value a second opportunity !

16 posted on 10/11/2015 3:53:52 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (The GOPe and Karl Rove got Obama elected twice. .. How'd that work out for ya ?)
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To: dynoman

Well noted: what FR calls conservative is (normally) something approximating the classical liberal. Though there are a few provocative stickers-in-the-mud-for-its-own-sake. What FR calls liberal (normally) does not want to liberate anything, but to force it into some kind of supposed ideal socialist mold.


17 posted on 10/11/2015 4:11:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Nope, that closes the webpage. The article comes up upon first entering the site, but then an overlay page comes up obscuring the article. When I delete that overlay page it redirects me to what I assume is the home page and the article that was there is not even mentioned anywhere.

Oh well no big loss. Strange though that I am getting this when no one else seems to.

18 posted on 10/11/2015 4:17:15 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

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It should not close anything but the pop-up. (if you only hit it once)
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19 posted on 10/11/2015 4:25:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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