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Presidential Horse Race 2016: Why a reputable pollster forecasts a Cruz win in Iowa
Richard A. Viguerie's Conservative HQ ^ | January 19, 2016 | Jeffrey A. Rendall

Posted on 01/19/2016 6:45:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wishful thinking.

Trump has more that double Cruz’s numbers in the polls.

However, if you do not believe that then just compare the rallies.

Who has bigger numbers of people their rallies? Trump has thousands just about every event.

Cruz has one hundred to two hundred. It’s not even remotely close.


61 posted on 01/19/2016 7:42:03 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: altura

You want to REALLY see “petulant” and “untrustworthy”? Then you should read Ted’s TWEETS about Palin, BEFORE she even went to the rally and opened her mouth!


62 posted on 01/19/2016 7:45:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Enlightened1

If you’re so sure of your candidate, why bust my chops about his superiority? You should just be sitting back, smug in the belief that Don Trump already has it in the bag. But you don’t, which makes me wonder just how confident you are about his ultimate victory.


63 posted on 01/19/2016 7:45:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: IAMNO1

Your ilk does FAR more of that.


64 posted on 01/19/2016 7:46:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Washington didn’t “fund raise”; he was anointed.


65 posted on 01/19/2016 7:47:24 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

“The same is even more true, re Cruz supporters, and Cruz himself and all of the news that has lately come out about him and his parents.”

Trump has been all over the map through the years, politically (though he doesn’t seem to vote, except with his money to politicians). That is indisputable. Cruz has been a very close adherent to conservative values throughout his political career. I think the news you are referring to is just character assassination, for the sake of someone getting elected (or people getting their candidate elected).


66 posted on 01/19/2016 7:48:02 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Enough with the divisions. Lets get somebody in there who'll fix this mess.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The same could be said for YOU !
So what’s YOUR “excuse”?


67 posted on 01/19/2016 7:48:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

The presidency wasn’t his first elective office by a longshot. Read a book.


68 posted on 01/19/2016 7:48:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: IAMNO1
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....TPA, et al and the sorry excuses and lies later? LOL

It is only recently that Ted's masks have begun to fall. He isn't whom we were led to believe he was.

69 posted on 01/19/2016 7:50:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was ONLY talking about the presidency; pet. I was very clear about that.


70 posted on 01/19/2016 7:51:11 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Post some recent Cruz rallies that were held in the last week.


71 posted on 01/19/2016 7:51:24 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: nopardons

I’m not your pet, degenerate.


72 posted on 01/19/2016 7:53:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My, aren’t you sensitive. That can happen when you support a Canadian.


73 posted on 01/19/2016 7:56:04 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

They were in different locations judging by the split screen


74 posted on 01/19/2016 7:59:18 PM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: IAMNO1
I was initially opposed to Trump, then quickly swung over to his side (and often defense), but he's just about swung me back again on his own and with zealots here defending his every action, as he (and they) demonstrate just about every day that he will say anything, do anything, to meet his goals, NO MATTER WHAT they are (or will be). Simply put, I don't trust him anymore.

One might recall Richard Nixon, who also had a less than solid track record as to conservative issues when he ran for president in 1968. He campaigned on a conservative platform as the champion of the "forgotten American," but once in office, he quickly moved leftward, embracing and expanding the Great Society, growing government at all levels, and starting such programs as OSHA, the EPA, and Affirmative Action. Nixon gave conservatives little to cheer about, yet there were conservatives, including Pat Buchanan, who defended him--and continue to do so.

If in 13 months President Trump starts to embrace and expand the Obama agenda as Nixon embraced the Great Society, how will his fanatic acolytes respond?

75 posted on 01/19/2016 8:01:24 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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Agree that Cruz will win Iowa, which is what makes him virtually unelectable in the general election...pandering to the evangelicals. Same as happened to Santorum and Huckabee.

Cruz isn't "pandering" to the evangelicals. He is a God-fearing Christian himself, so his appeal to them is sincere.

Both Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984 benefited from their appeal to the evangelical vote.

76 posted on 01/19/2016 8:07:33 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill
“If in 13 months President Trump starts to embrace and expand the Obama agenda as Nixon embraced the Great Society, how will his fanatic acolytes respond?”

Simply put, they will make excuses for him, as they do now, and put his critics or opposition down, as they do now, much as Nixon's minions unfortunately did.

Good observations.

77 posted on 01/19/2016 8:07:42 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Enough with the divisions. Lets get somebody in there who'll fix this mess.)
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To: nopardons
“Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....TPA, et al and the sorry excuses and lies later? LOL
It is only recently that Ted's masks have begun to fall. He isn't whom we were led to believe he was.”

I'm okay if you're not real conservative. But on what planet do you dare put the conservative-marquee member Cruz down (if only in your imagination) to raise the stock of an on-again/off-again conservative (and liberal) Trump? You're in for a big shock one of these days, and there won't be a lifeline.

78 posted on 01/19/2016 8:11:25 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Enough with the divisions. Lets get somebody in there who'll fix this mess.)
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To: IAMNO1; 2ndDivisionVet
I asked him if he had watched Sarah Palin's speech, nothing about Trump. 2 d vet and I are posting friends from way back.

Despite an occasional difference, for my part, we remain as such. My respect for him has not diminished.

Your comment about Stepford Wives and Zombies is a classic example of how not to debate, and why whoever your side represents is considered despicable.

79 posted on 01/19/2016 8:17:23 PM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark; 2ndDivisionVet

Lakeshark,

If you were not doing what at first glance I thought you were, and what I’ve been observing more and more of lately, I apologize. Didn’t mean to rope you in on it.

Regarding respect, I don’t want it, ask for it, care for it, or post for it. I don’t care if I’m considered “despicable” either. Not on my radar. I see patterns and bring them to the forefront. I’ve been seeing more and more people act like cult members here, which turns me off big time.

Regards


80 posted on 01/19/2016 8:29:51 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Enough with the divisions. Lets get somebody in there who'll fix this mess.)
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