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Mueller Probe Could Set the Stage For Hillary’s 2020 Return: New at Reason
Reason Magazine's Hit & Run Blog ^ | June 19, 2017 | Staff

Posted on 06/19/2017 4:23:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian influence on the 2016 presidential election presents a preview of Hillary Clinton's 2020 presidential campaign, suggests Ira Stoll. Blaming the outcome of the election on illegal Russian interference takes the blame off Clinton for losing. Clinton can already point out that she won the popular vote in 2016. If her electoral vote loss was the result of foreign interference—rather than, say, a poorly managed campaign, or a candidate who couldn't connect with out-of-work coal miners, or the wrong substantive message—then perhaps a 2020 replay, without foreign interference, might yield a different outcome, some will suggest.

For a sense of how the Clinton 2020 reasoning and the Mueller investigation are related, keep an eye on the timing, writes Stoll. If the probe delivers results long enough before the 2020 primary season for Clinton to get a campaign in gear, watch out. If findings don't emerge until later, then they won't be much use to her.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2020; hillary; mueller; trump
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Don’t know if you’re the first to post that but sure did make me laugh.


41 posted on 06/19/2017 5:28:54 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: krunkygirl

https://imgur.com/De2UsKt

ENJOY!


42 posted on 06/19/2017 5:42:31 PM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr. (The Obamanation is over! “Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.”)
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To: LS

LS, why doesn’t Sessions indict some people ... like Rice (leaking, perjury), Abedin (espionage), Lynch (obstruction), Holder (contempt), etc.? The Platte River guy who pleaded 5th Amendment after helping Hillary destroy evidence. Maybe even Comey for leaking?

I’m sick of waiting for the Republicrats in Congress. Most of them are worthless . . . completely owned.

Unless President Trump has a better plan, it seems to me it has always served him well to go on the offensive.


43 posted on 06/19/2017 5:46:48 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Disestablishmentarian

Apparently ole jeff sessions is still asleep. Personally i think Jeff should resign and let trump appoint someone who will agressively pursue obama and Clinton scandals. The fact that he has done nothing but talk is inexcusable.


44 posted on 06/19/2017 5:59:15 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The b*tch STOLE the popular vote, and a number of states, with election fraud.


45 posted on 06/19/2017 6:03:03 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: Disestablishmentarian

My guess is that the majority of the resources in the still-understaffed justice department are going to arresting illegals, shutting down gangs, and fighting the impeachment crap.

You just run out of bodies. Sessions has just fired 46 attorneys in the DOJ.


46 posted on 06/19/2017 6:13:18 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If her electoral vote loss was the result of . . . [anything] . . . rather than, say, a poorly managed campaign, or a candidate who couldn’t connect with out-of-work coal miners, or the wrong substantive message—then perhaps a 2020 replay, without foreign interference, might yield a different outcome, some will suggest. Now we know why Hillary and her minions keep trying to make any excuse stick:

Traditionalist attitudes toward women elected Trump.

White voters afraid of losing White Privilege elected Trump.

Democrats doing a poor job of controlling the narrative elected Trump.

A thousand Russian agents working every day elected Trump.

Content farms in Macedonia elected Trump.

The TV networks keeping Hillary off the air elected Trump.

The vast right-wing conspiracy elected Trump.

Infowars elected Trump.

Google elected Trump.

Governor Scott Walker elected Trump.

Steve Bannon elected Trump.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker elected Trump.

Nate Silver elected Trump.

Citizens United elected Trump.

The DNC being a mess and in poor shape elected Trump.

Bad polling numbers elected Trump.

Obama winning two terms elected Trump.

People wanting change elected Trump.

The New York Times, cable news, and television executives elected Trump.

According to Hillary, “Eight of the top 10 political documentaries on Netflix were screeds against President Obama and me” - Netflix elected Trump.

Democrats not making the right documentaries elected Trump.

The Democrat Party and the Republican Party elected Trump.

Concerns that Hillary Clinton was involved with a child sex trafficking operation elected Trump.

Concern about Hillary Clinton being a lizard elected Trump.

High expectations that Hillary would win elected Trump.

Voter suppression elected Trump.

FBI Director Comey announcing a criminal investigation into Hillary’s felonies just over a week before the election, when he had little reason to think there was anything there, elected Trump.

The Russians ransacking Hillary’s computer files and strategically leaking the truth elected Trump.

Misogyny elected Trump.

Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters elected Trump.

Advocacy press on the right elected Trump.

Facebook elected Trump.

Twitter elected Trump.

Old, out-of-touch democrats with a flawed message that alienated young voters elected Trump.

White nationalists elected Trump.

Hatred of Hillary Clinton at the FBI (how could anyone hate a lovable woman like Hillary?) elected Trump.

FBI investigation elected Trump.

Email scandal elected Trump.

Black voters not liking Hillary elected Trump.

Fewer than 100,000 deplorable voters spread across a handful of states elected Trump.

People hating Hillary because she is so professional, so polished, such a wonderful lawyer, so brilliant, so good, so righteous, and so much better than us elected Trump.

The lack of energy among Hillary supporters and expectations of Hillary being the inevitable winner, because it was her turn, elected Trump.

Robby Mook selecting the wrong travel stops for Hillary and spending heavily in the wrong states elected Trump.

Hillary’s campaign team failing to hone her message and get voters to the polls elected Trump.

Bill Clinton’s appearance of an inappropriate meeting with Attorney General Loretta Lynch elected Trump.

Blatant sexism elected Trump.

Wikileaks elected Trump.

The ugly stew of racism elected Trump.

Hillary’s alleged lack of likability and claimed lack of trustworthiness elected Trump.

Self-hating women elected Trump.

Evangelical, Catholic, anti-marriage equality, and anti-choice social conservatives elected Trump.

Sinister outside forces elected Trump.

Whitelash elected Trump.

Democrat policies that favor the rich elected Trump.

Failure to talk to working-class white voters elected Trump.

Men elected Trump.

Lower-level FBI agents pressuring their Director (because that’s how professional relationships work) elected Trump.

Tim Kaine gave Hillary Virginia, but he also elected Trump.

White women elected Trump.

Racists elected Trump.

Sexists elected Trump.

Rural voters elected Trump.

The working class voting against their own interests elected Trump.

Fake news elected Trump.

Supermarket tabloids elected Trump.

Celebrity (The Apprentice) elected Trump.

White male resentment elected Trump.

Over-shaming Trump supporters elected Trump.

Rejecting Bernie elected Trump.

Reagan democrats elected Trump.

Backlash against political correctness elected Trump.

There are many terrible reasons for President Trump’s victory, but there are two things that were not a factor. First, Hillary was the perfect candidate; nothing she did harmed her candidacy in any way. Second, President Trump was the worst candidate imaginable; nothing he did helped his candidacy at all, except with racists, sexists, bigots, and the rest of the basket of deplorables.


47 posted on 06/19/2017 6:19:26 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’ll be in a walker by then and won’t be able to run...


48 posted on 06/19/2017 6:19:42 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good.


49 posted on 06/19/2017 6:35:52 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dems don’t have to do anything to win the 2020 election. The current republican Congress is knowingly handing it to them on a silver platter.


50 posted on 06/19/2017 6:50:21 PM PDT by Ronald77
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2nd......Felonia von Pants Suit already has a 20 point carryover lead for 2020. oohrah.


51 posted on 06/19/2017 6:50:37 PM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 87)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zerohedge isn’t welcome here, but this is interesting.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-19/hillary-clinton-told-fbis-mueller-deliver-uranium-russians-2009-secret-plane-side-ta

“New Clinton-Mueller Russian uranium ties surface in the latest Wikileaks release... “We require that the transfer of this material be conducted at the airport, on the tarmac near by the plane, upon arrival of the Director’s aircraft”


52 posted on 06/19/2017 6:56:58 PM PDT by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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To: TigersEye
"Pump that old cow carcass full of drugs and drag her back out for another run.


53 posted on 06/19/2017 8:03:28 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How the hell did the administration get themselves into so much trouble? Obama went eight years with tons of scandals and came nowhere near having a special prosecutor, yet Trump’s people got him into this mess within a couple of months of taking office.

This whole administration is suicidal!

Forget the deep state; Trump’s own people have put him in this mess.


54 posted on 06/19/2017 8:23:20 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: PBRCat; SJackson; BenLurkin; governsleastgovernsbest

I don’t think she “could” get out meet the voters!

Best she could manage after mid-Sept was 1-2 public speeches - walk on stage, speak for 5-10 minutes, walk off stage and get in Suburban (er, ambulance) away from the crowds. Add 2-3 closely controlled “fund-raisers” in private small venues with no reporters, no TV’s, no cell phones, and NO CAMERAS. Obviously, no repubbies and no independents eithers would might speak up.

That’s it. That was her entire campaign in Sept Oct and Nov. 1-3 events a week.


55 posted on 06/19/2017 8:45:08 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump should give a speech detailing the incestuous relationship of Comey, Mueller, and the far-left vermin Mueller has hired.

Then fire them all.


56 posted on 06/19/2017 8:50:33 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: LS

Was watching this ......... not sure of validity.

https://youtu.be/Kag97tNXJTk


57 posted on 06/19/2017 8:55:46 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I find it endlessly hilarious that her incredibly stupid supporters think electing her will somehow benefit them when Hillary demonstrably, over a quarter century or more, has in every position she has held, benefitted ONLY herself.

Hillary fans are an almost unbelievable brand of brainless.


58 posted on 06/19/2017 10:39:49 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Imagine that! And the lame stream media told us that HRC was in perfect health!


59 posted on 06/20/2017 9:04:56 AM PDT by PBRCat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Has this been posted yet?

Hillary Clinton Told FBI's Mueller To Deliver Uranium To Russians In 2009 "Secret Plane-Side Tarmac Meeting"

60 posted on 06/20/2017 10:21:45 AM PDT by nutmeg (Put Reality Loser and Hillary Clinton in the same cell)
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