Theories unfold as hearing nears in Peterson case

The Contra Costa Times ^ | Oct 12, 2003

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Hi Vel! Watching Cubs as we speak! Go Cubs!

Vel, the link you provided is pretty much what I heard breathless Rita reporting earlier. Who's leaking that info to Rita about what was on the tapes? Guess the gag order is no longer in place, unless maybe we're never going to hear those tapes in the courtroom.

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The Sox-Yankees game is on now, but I LOVE that you're cheering for the Cubs anyway! ;-)

I too wonder who could be leaking the information. This almost sounds like a tit for tat leak, since Amber's calls were leaked making her sound like she was the evil pursuer. Now we see that SP was the fanatic. He was telling Amber in early January that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her! SP knew Laci wasn't coming home and he thought he was free to be with Amber.

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I believe the tapes WILL come in to the trial but there may be some discipline handed out to both sides!! This kind of stuff happening makes me even more sure that the Judge will NOT allow another delay in the Prelim. McAllister will just have to take it on. After all he was Peterson's first Attorney and he's no novice. There is no excuse for him not being able to do it unless he's busy too.

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ModBee published the info about Amber's calls. Now, Fox is telling about Scott's calls. What I'm reading into these reports is that Amber overstepped her bounds by calling and talking to friends/family of Laci. I don't believe MPD was authorizing her to do that, and I can see that defense will go after Amber for discussing the case with Laci's friends/family. Such discussions, IMO, could be construed by defense as collusion to "get Scott" before he had even been arrested or charged. I also believe Amber continued to tape conversations after the LE wiretap had been removed. Could that be a no-no under these circumstances?

I'm sure the Rocha's appreciate what Amber did in coming forward as she did, but also believe her frequent contacts with friends/family was unwelcome, even though they were polite about it. I especially believe that Sharon would have thought the calls were "bold". I know I would have.

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LOL.... your posting had a hiccup.. ;o)

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WOW Vel, I went back and read that link you posted. I didn't read it the first time because I thought it was the dates that were posted a couple days ago. There is NO WAY that evidence will be excluded and if all of that is true he's toast!! That is NOT a grieving husband. Also, Mitochondrial DNA is very accurate. Geragos has more than an uphill battle here.

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It's NOT collusion Sandy. Those wiretaps were Court approved for the collection of evidence and that's exactly what they did. They certainly met the standard to get a Judge to okay the warrants for wiretaps and that is not an easy threshold to meet.

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Also, if it was wrong for Amber to speak with the Rocha's et al I'm sure that Law Enforcement would have stopped her right away. They had her phone tapped too. One thing that neither Amber or Laci's family and friends were doing was talking about the evidence with reporters. None of them did that even tho, I'll bet they would have loved to. I remember one little blurb from Brent Rocha, he said, "I hope Scott keeps giving interviews because each interview provides another contradiction".!!

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My mistake, then, CO. I thought those wiretaps only were authorized for taped conversations between Scott and Amber. Guess it depends on the wording of the court documents. Sounds like MPD made her a "deputy" of sorts, huh?

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What I'm reading into these reports is that Amber overstepped her bounds by calling and talking to friends/family of Laci.

I'm not getting the same vibes, Sandy. Ron Grantski's comments about Amber "doing the right thing" lead me to believe that they welcomed her calls. I'm sure Amber was able to fill in alot of timeline issues for the Rochas early on. It also looks like most of these calls would have been made before the gag order.

[Velveeta]

That is NOT a grieving husband

You said it! I hope we get to hear the grieving husband's tapes and watch Geragos et al squirm.

[Velveeta]

Deputy Amber? ROFL!

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Frey dialed three phones used by Laci Peterson's brother, Brent Rocha, nine times over the six-week period. She called Laci's sister, Amy Rocha, twice in February.

Frey called the home number of Grantski and Laci's mother, Sharon Rocha, twice, and dialed Rocha's cell phone twice, once talking for 22 minutes.

That conversation occurred Feb. 4, the day the court order for the first wiretap on Peterson's phones ended.

From MaggieMay's post #312, previous thread, and from the FresnoBee. I believe this same story ran in the ModBee.

Do you think Amber ever talked to Bret? It says she dialed his number 9 times over 6 weeks, but it doesn't say whether or how long they talked. Then, in February, she called Amy twice. Did they talk? Unspecified as to minutes. Then, on Feb. 4, she called Sharon twice, and talked once for 22 minutes. That same day, the wiretap on Peterson's phones ended. Peterson's phones? Did they also remove Amber's?

[Sandylapper]

LOL, Vel! You don't have to get the same vibes I do. Heck, I may be way out in left field! But after reading Maggie's post #312 from the previous thread carefully, I'm not sure how much she actually talked with the Rochas. She dialed them a lot. But it sounds like soon after she talked with Sharon, the plug was pulled because the court order "ran out".

I also noted that the "Jones" professor in that article is a former prosecutor, and noted what she said about Amber calling the Rochas. Jones and I may be cut from the same cloth. LOL

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That's a thought. I wonder if they talked every time she dialed them? Doubt it. Your probably right in your insinuation that where they didn't specify minutes, there was no conversation. As to Amber taping messages after the wiretap was off, I guess she could, but they probably wouldn't be admissable. She could however, testify to what the conversations were with HERSELF and whoever. The part that really intrigues me is Peterson, saying he loves her, wants to have a family with her and wants to spend the rest of his life with her. How the sam hill can he ever explain that????? The only explanation is that he didn't care a lot for Laci OR his baby son. Clearly, Amber was more exciting to him. Laci was probably too normal.

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Remember, this is the guy who when interviewed by Diane Sawyer described his marriage as GLORIOUS!! That almost made me puke on the spot. I'm happily married but I can tell you neither myself nor my husband would call our marriage GLORIOUS. That's not even a normal description.

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Now, that interview/conversation can be played court, if I understand correctly, but if Amber's taped conversations are not allowed, for whatever reason, we might not hear about his declarations of love for her. I know that's not what you want to hear, CO, and it's not what I want, but I'm suspicious about what's really going on with this case. I'm afraid that there's a turning point or shift coming.

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I'm not sure your right Sandy. LE had a Court qualified warrant on Scott's phoneS. Therefore when he phoned and said those things to her that IS admissable evidence. The reason for the wiretaps was to collect evidence. LE also had Amber's phone tapped. Remember the reference that she supposedly sent him a book with a note somewhere near the back of it saying "my phone is tapped don't call me"? I recall a Lawyer on probably LKL since I don't get FOX, say that that could have been a way for her to validate her own phone taping. How? Because then the other party had been advised. I'm sure that is the law in CA that you can only tape conversations if both parties know.

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Your right, I'm not as worried as you are. I think that Law Enforcement has evidence PLENTY on Scott Peterson's guilt. If LE removes a wiretap because they have gathered ENOUGH evidence that is saying something. Taken all together, the wiretaps, physical evidence, circumstantial evidence, cadaver dog evidence, DNA, lies, GPS tracking evidence etc. I'm just not as worried as you are. I think Geragos knows this is a losing battle. How can you really argue with SO much evidence and such damning evidence.? What man tells a mistress when his pregnant wife is missing barely a month that he loves her, wants to have a family with HER and wants to spend the rest of his life with her. I think Snott's parents are gonna have some 'splainin to do also. They swear that Scott loved Laci SO VERY MUCH! BAAAHHHHH!! I'm sure the Defense will TRY to get evidence excluded, they all do. So far, they haven't been very good at it. They have lost most motions and appeals. I'm not even sure they will get a Prelim delay. If they do, I doubt it will be for very long. I am wondering what the lady that talked with him on the morning of the 24th as he was "loading" his truck has to offer that the Defense wants her testimony excluded?

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I may not be right, CO! It's just that my dang gut is acting up again! LOL! Think you once told me to heave it up and spit it out, but I can't. It's really sticking in my craw and won't go away. Makes me angry, too. I hate humble pie, and may have to eat a big helping! ROFL