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Terri Schiavo wants to live
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 14, 2003 | Sarah Foster

Posted on 10/14/2003 1:50:30 PM PDT by joesnuffy

MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH Terri Schiavo wants to live Family reveals secret therapy sessions held for brain-disabled woman scheduled to die

Posted: October 14, 2003 2:50 p.m. Eastern

By Sarah Foster © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Terri Schindler-Schiavo does not want to die. She would like to go home. And she tried to convey this to her father in no uncertain terms by sitting bolt upright and trying to get out of her chair when told she might be killed, her family has revealed.

The stunning news was released at noon Eastern today by Terri's father, Robert Schindler, at the 'round-the-clock vigil outside the Woodside Hospice facility in Pinellas Park, Fla., where his daughter's court-ordered death by starvation is scheduled to begin tomorrow at 2 p.m. Eastern. At that time, her husband and legal guardian Michael Schiavo is scheduled to give the order to disconnect the 39-year-old brain-disabled woman's feeding tube that has provided her with sustenance for the past 13 years.

In an interview a few hours earlier, Schindler described the incident to WorldNetDaily. He said he was holding a cell phone to Terri's ear as she listened intently to the speaker, propped in her jerry-chair at about a 30-degree angle. Suddenly she sat up straight and tried to get out of her chair, despite her weak legs and muscles that were slack from lack of exercise.

His daughter's response stunned Schindler, who grabbed the phone and asked, "My God, what did you tell her?"

The speaker said he had warned, "If you don't get up and get out of there, you're going to die there."

"He was ecstatic when I told him what Terri had tried to do," Schindler said.

And so was Schindler. It was part of a covert rehabilitation program the desperate father and Galaxy Wave Group – a therapeutic company on the cutting-edge of medical technology – devised for Terri in a bold attempt to bring her to a point of recovery where even Florida judges would realize they could not allow her to be starved.

Beginning in late November last year and continuing until the end of February, Terri received daily, hour-long therapy sessions by telephone with company president Dr. Joe Champion or one of his therapists.

While Schindler held the phone to his daughter's ear, they would talk with her, giving her instructions and tasks: move your left arm, move your hand, and so on.

"We started right around Thanksgiving," Schindler recalled. "The first day Dr. Champion listened to the sounds she was making and said he felt it wouldn't be long before she was talking. That was the objective."

The therapy sessions lasted through February, but were interrupted by bouts of flu and other illnesses. One particularly severe illness caused her to relapse.

The "tough love" of telling Terri what lies in store for her was tried several times to stimulate her to work hard.

In a signed affidavit read at the press conference Champion described one of the sessions.

"In December of 2002, I confronted Ms. Schindler with the 'truth' and told her that unless she helped me in returning her from the comatose state that she was in that she was going to die a horrid death," he wrote. "I explained in detail that they would remove the single tube that was providing her nutrition and she would slowly die of starvation. At this point, it was reported by her father that she sat up in bed and became teary eyed."

That Terri understands her own mortality and reacts so strongly when threatened runs counter to the official notion that she is oblivious to her surroundings and will not even know she is being dehydrated and starved to death.

Shiavo's attorney, George Felos, a well-known "right-to-die" advocate, said the claims of improvement that the Schindlers have been making in the last few weeks are impossible.

"There is no cognition, no consciousness," he told the Tampa Tribune.

He further explained why no effort was made to spoon-feed her.

"She simply does not have the ability to take food or water by mouth," he said. "If they tried that, she would aspirate it and suffer an infection that would likely prove fatal."

To corroborate Schindler's account and for further details, WorldNetDaily contacted the person who worked with Terri via telephone. He agreed to be interviewed, but requested his name not be used.

According to "Mr. Smith," Terri was able to move her hand, her arm, her leg on command. She couldn't speak, but she followed instructions.

"The bottom line is she is not vegetative, the way the husband and the side the court has gone with want to portray her," Smith said. "She definitely has some brain damage and severe problems, but she is not a vegetable."

"The problem for Terri is that she can do things, but not on a consistent basis. One day she couldn't, another day she couldn't or wouldn't," he explained. "I can't tell you the reasons, but Terri has her good days and bad days. On a good day she can respond appropriately with no problems. She understands."

Some days are extremely good – like the day she tried to get out of her chair.

"The way Bob [Schindler] described it to you is exactly correct," Smith said. "She just about got out of that chair."

As he tells it: "I was telling her she has to work with us. I couldn't tell you my exact words now; it's been a year. But I was explaining to her that she needed to work with me, that if we could get her to the point to where she could prove to people that she understood, she could get out of there and go home with her parents. I was explaining to her that she had to work with us and respond or they were going to let her die. That's when she tried to get out of the chair."

Smith said they stopped the sessions when he had to leave the area for a couple of months and were not resumed on his return.

It is clear to Schindler that the therapy was working, but until now he has not wanted to talk about it. He could not even bring it up in court as evidence, because it possibly violated a court order.

The Schindlers had reason to suspect that their efforts to help Terri would not be appreciated and that Schiavo might even obtain a court order banning them from her room, as he had done in the past. At one point, he banned Terri's brother and sister from her room for five months simply because they asked the nurse to try and give her some pudding. But there were other instances.

At the initial trial in January 2000, the Schindlers' attorney at the time, Pamela Campbell, introduced into evidence a video of Terri made by a friend of her sister, Suzanne Schindler. It was shown on television news, and three doctors who saw it contacted Robert Schindler saying that they did not believe his daughter was in a persistent vegetative state, but that they wanted to examine her to be sure.

Schindler said he took each of them into her room, and they tested her reactions to stimuli. They found she was definitely not in a persistent vegetative state, that she was cognizant and could recognize her family, because when she saw members of her family she would smile and showed signs of recognition.

All three said they believed Terri had the ability to swallow because she was not drooling. The affidavits were sent to probate Judge George Greer requesting him to allow a swallowing test, which he summarily denied.

Greer accepted the affidavits but did not change his mind.

Schiavo was furious that a video had been made of Terri and doctors had been taken to visit her. In response to his demands, Greer issued an order banning further videotaping and any still photography, and a list of "approved" visitors was drawn up. The list was relatively long – over 40 names – but there was a catch. Visitors could only see Terri if accompanied by a family member. This meant even Terri's priest, Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski, did not have normal access to her.

Schiavo and attorney Felos decided that greater controls were needed. In April 2000, they moved Terri surreptitiously from the nursing home that had been her home for six years to the Hospice of the Florida Sun Coast, a place intended for people in the last stages of an illness.

Regulations generally prohibit a hospice from taking a patient who is not terminally ill and expected to live longer than six months to a year. But Felos was chairman of the board of directors of the hospice and was able to arrange for her admission. He resigned his position shortly thereafter.

A year later, in April 2001, her death by dehydration was ordered to begin, and the day her feeding was stopped her brother and sister came by with a spoon and a cup of pudding, asking a nurse to try to feed her by mouth. The nurse refused and reported the request to others. When Schiavo found out he demanded that Bobby and Suzanne be removed from the list of approved visitors, and Greer rubberstamped his request.

"We were trying to play by the rules," Bobby told WorldNetDaily. "But that didn't matter. We were kicked off the list anyway."

Terri was 60 hours without food or water before a different judge issued an emergency stay because new evidence had come to light, and her feeding was resumed.

The evidence was strong enough for a stay, but not strong enough to end Schiavo's efforts. A series of appeals followed, and in November 2001, the 2nd District Court of Appeals ordered an evidentiary hearing held in the fall of 2002.

Five months following their banishment from the Hospice, Bobby and Suzanne Schindler had their visiting rights restored, but only on condition that they not attempt any spoon-feeding.

"I don't want anyone trying to feed that girl," Greer thundered.

Greer did not specifically placed audio-taping and therapy-by-telephone on the list of banned activities, but experience had taught the Schindler family that it was best to keep such efforts to themselves rather than run the risk of angering Schiavo and having their visiting rights suspended.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the Schindlers have been fighting with their son-in-law for 10 years over the lack of care and therapy Schiavo provided for their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under mysterious circumstances at the age of 26.

The contentious family dispute escalated into a major euthanasia battle in May 1998, when Schiavo petitioned the Florida courts for permission to end his wife's life by disconnecting her feeding tube, insisting she is in a "persistent vegetative state" and that in casual conversations she had told him she would not want to be kept alive "artificially." Although Terri breathes on her on and maintains her own blood pressure, she requires a simple tube into her abdomen to her stomach for nourishment and hydration.

Although Terri's parents and siblings have claimed for years that she recognizes them and tries to talk, and over a dozen prominent doctors and therapists have stated under oath that she is not in a persistent vegetative state and with therapy could be rehabilitated, a handful of doctors have testified she is "vegetative." They claim her expressions and vocalizations are simply reflex actions and she will never regain consciousness. Despite a scarcity of expert testimony and evidence for Schiavo's position, the Florida courts have consistently sided with him and Felos.

When the seven-member Florida Supreme Court in August turned down an petition by the Schindlers to review the case, the way was clear for Schiavo to order his wife starved to death.

On Sept. 17, Greer, of the Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Court, scheduled Oct. 15 as the day Terri's feeding tube would be removed.

Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry is coordinating the vigil. He advises anyone who wants to help Terri to telephone Gov. Jeb Bush and urge him to instruct the Department of Children and Families, which enforces standards of hospice care, to do their own investigation to see if she has been getting proper care and rehabilitation.

"Which we know she has not and will not if they take her tube away," said Terry. "And when they find she has not, then Bush can order them to assume guardianship. They must take the guardianship away from the husband."

Jeb Bush's e-mail is jeb@jeb.org. His telephone is (850) 488-4441.

Legal documents and information on Terri's fight for life are posted on the family's website.

Previous stories:

Joni Eareckson Tada joins vigil for Terri Schiavo

Hearing today on woman scheduled to starve

Prayer vigil for Terri Schiavo

Bush steps in for Schindler-Schiavo

Florida AG intervenes in Schiavo lawsuit

Order signed for starvation of disabled woman

Disabled woman wins reprieve

Another 9-11 date with death

Federal judge considers Schiavo case

Federal Court grants emergency hearing in Schiavo case

Attorney: Jeb Bush letter only a 'good first step'

Gov. Bush's plea for Schindler-Schiavo rejected

Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo

Legal setbacks clear way for Schiavo starvation

Schindler-Schiavo on 'death row'

Husband bars priest from brain-damaged wife

Brain-damaged woman hospitalized

Fight for life bombshell: Terri trying to talk

Petition drive launched for Terri Schiavo

Commentary:

'Murder is legal if we say so'

Sarah Foster is a staff reporter for WorldNetDaily.


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1 posted on 10/14/2003 1:50:31 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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2 posted on 10/14/2003 1:56:41 PM PDT by Eaker (Amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic.............hmmmmmmmmm ;<)
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3 posted on 10/14/2003 1:57:57 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: joesnuffy
BTTT and my prayers are with Terri.

Thank you "joesnuffy" for posting this.

4 posted on 10/14/2003 2:02:27 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: joesnuffy
I cannot image the despair her family is experiencing, let alone Terri, a woman trapped in a body that doesn't work right. If she really cried and tried to get up when told they would starve her, how cruel and sick this whole thing is. Our society is devolving into primitive animal behavour with the assistance of the courts. May God have mercy on us.
5 posted on 10/14/2003 2:06:36 PM PDT by tioga
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To: joesnuffy
Why does 'Judge' Greer seem so dedicated to ending Terri's life? I just find it odd that he seems to be going out of his way to help Schiavo finish the job on Terri.
6 posted on 10/14/2003 2:07:59 PM PDT by kenth (This is not your father's tagline.)
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I wrote this so that AIM readers would also be aware, especially of the media's neglect to report this story...
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Media Ignore Fight for Woman's Life
By William R. Alford
October 14, 2003


An incapacitated Florida woman is scheduled to be deprived of food and water on October 15, despite being conscious and responsive, but unable to speak. Theresa Marie (Terri) Schindler Schiavo was 26 when she collapsed in 1990 from a possible potassium imbalance that cut off oxygen to her brain. The extent of her brain damage is the focus of considerable dispute.

Her husband Michael successfully sued for malpractice and was awarded a total of $1.3 million in November 1992 in punitive and compensatory damages. Although promising the jury that the monies would be used for his wife's care, Michael Schiavo refused to allow Teri rehabilitation therapy, including that which would promise to wean her from the feeding/hydration tubes that sustain her.

Within months of the original jury award, Michael Schiavo insisted that Terri not be resuscitated if the need arises. Fortunately for her, it has not.

Michael, his brother and his brother's wife had testified that Terri had confided that she would not want her life sustained using such methods upon which she now depends. This wish was not related to the original malpractice jury - they were told that Terri had a normal life expectancy and that funding was required for ongoing medical care.

Terri's parents thus became skeptical of Michael's motives and petitioned to have him removed as guardian in July 1993. The petition was denied. For his part, Michael has been litigating to stop feeding his wife since May 1998, spending an estimated $600,000 in legal fees to achieve his objective. Terri's parents have stretched their own personal finances to keep her alive and have set up a foundation seeking financial help: http://www.terrisfight.org/Framesets/DonationFrame.htm

The wire services have sporadically reported this ongoing story, but it is largely unknown outside of Florida because the major media outlets have virtually ignored it. Apparently there are some aspects that Big Media considers to be too inflammatory:

Michael has a fiancé, Jodi Centonze with whom he has been living for nearly seven years. They have produced one child together and another is on the way. Rather than seeking divorce [which would remove him as an heir], Michael plans to marry Centonze upon Teri's death.

Florida Circuit Court judge George Greer ruled that artificial feeding be halted in February 2000. He further ordered that part of the original malpractice award pay for security to protect Teri from being fed by her family [and for his own personal protection]. After more than a year of litigation, the feeding was discontinued in April 2001 and, after a series of hearings and motions, resumed after 60 hours of starvation/dehydration. The litigation continued.

Terri's parents insist that she is mentally impaired, but not a 'vegetable.' They have posted videos of her looking at and responding to people around her, but Michael's doctors insist her reactions are merely unconscious reflexes. Judge Greer would not allow Terri to be examined or treated by any doctors not approved or selected by Michael Schiavo or himself.

After receiving nearly 27,000 letters, Governor Jeb Bush's office filed an amicus curiae memorandum in federal court, requesting that Terri be allowed a sufficient period of rehabilitative therapy to facilitate self-feeding and hydration before the artificial methods are discontinued. On Oct. 10, U.S. District judge Richard Lazzara ruled against hearing the case, citing lack of jurisdiction. This ruling cannot be appealed. The tubes will be removed as ordered at 2:00 p.m. on Wednesday, Oct. 15.

William R Alford is a Government & International Politics/Electronic Journalism student at George Mason University in Fairfax VA



7 posted on 10/14/2003 2:09:53 PM PDT by walford (Dogmatism swings both ways)
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Dear Governor Bush,

Please get off your oh-so-busy ass and take Randall Terry's advice. A murder is about to be committed with your complicity.

Thank you,
The Red States of America
8 posted on 10/14/2003 2:11:09 PM PDT by Burr5
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Sean just announced (on his radio show) that Terri's father will be on his Fox TV show tonight.
9 posted on 10/14/2003 2:12:01 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: joesnuffy
They should let a network news crew into her room for 2 weeks and see what happens. Let them roll tape. Just bring someone in impartial and let them document her current condition.

This might bring about 2 things. One, people would see that she is aware or she is not. Either way, she'll be harder to kill if she is seen by the public.

In the midst of doing this post I found video clips of this women here.

WTF is going on here? This person is far from brain dead!

10 posted on 10/14/2003 2:20:54 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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To: joesnuffy
"I don't want anyone trying to feed that girl," Greer thundered.

Schiavo and the judge should be charged with attempted murder, because that's exactly what this is. If Terri dies, you can remove the "attempted".

11 posted on 10/14/2003 2:22:00 PM PDT by Campion
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I wish that the clips we've all seen of her responding to her parents will be shown. There are too many ignorant of the facts that just take the word of the court that she is in a vegetative state.
12 posted on 10/14/2003 2:34:55 PM PDT by kenth (This is not your father's tagline.)
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To: kenth
Doh. I got worked up and didn't read that it was Hannity's radio show. Well, he should still show them on his tv show.

This is disgusting that this sort of thing can happen. She has a right to life.
13 posted on 10/14/2003 2:37:17 PM PDT by kenth (This is not your father's tagline.)
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To: kenth
It might help if Sean gets a lot of email before his program tonight - so that he devotes plenty of time to Terri.
14 posted on 10/14/2003 2:38:35 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: kenth
May God have mercy on the soul of the husband and the judge if this woman is killed.

Although, the husband collected monies for her care and rehab, he has spent it already, and not on her. He and the judge will not allow her the rehab necessary to know if she can swallow food and water on her own.

I know why the husband wants her dead, but this judge is a mystery. Does he have some family history of health related situations such as this?

15 posted on 10/14/2003 2:45:10 PM PDT by Conservababe
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I know why the husband wants her dead ...


Because with rehab services maybe Terry could communicate that the reason why her heart stopped 10 years ago was because her abusive husband tried to kill her ???

16 posted on 10/14/2003 2:53:10 PM PDT by GHCubana
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Florida Court: Removal of brain-damaged woman's feeding tube can proceed Wednesday
Associated Press ^ | 10-14-03


Posted on 10/14/2003 2:45 PM PDT by Brian S


VICKIE CHACHERE, Associated Press Writer Tuesday, October 14, 2003




(10-14) 14:38 PDT PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) --

An appeals court on Tuesday refused to block the removal of a severely brain-damaged woman's feeding tube, one of the last hopes her parents had for keeping her alive.

The state court in Lakeland rejected motions by an attorney for the parents of Terri Schiavo, who is scheduled to have the feeding tube removed Wednesday at her husband's request.

Schiavo, 39, is expected to die within two weeks after the tube is removed. She's been in a vegetative state since suffering a heart attack in 1990.

Michael Schiavo says he is carrying out his wife's wishes that she not be kept alive artificially. The parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, say their daughter could be rehabilitated. Doctors disagree.

"Our legal remedies are exhausted," the Schindlers' attorneys said.

Pinellas Circuit Court Judge George Greer has ordered the tube be removed at 2 p.m. Wednesday.

A Schindler attorney, Pat Anderson, had wanted the appeals court to remove Greer from the case, and sought a stay and therapy for Terri Schiavo.

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday the case is "very troubling."

"This is not an easy situation for anyone. But at the end of the day, if it's possible for this woman to be able to continue to live without life support, then she should be able to do that...I don't know if that's the case or not, we'll never know if it stands where it is right now."


17 posted on 10/14/2003 2:55:52 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office. (Recall Davis))
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To: Conservababe
The judge's reasons I cannot fathom. This woman's right to life should supercede any divorce and guardian law. The argument that she did not want to live like this comes only from the word of the husband. Does marriage in Florida equate to slavery, wherein ownership of the woman is conferred to the husband?

I just don't know. Maybe the judge just has deemed her useless and thinks useless people should just be killed. That's how it's looking.
18 posted on 10/14/2003 3:24:40 PM PDT by kenth (This is not your father's tagline.)
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To: GHCubana
Because with rehab services maybe Terry could communicate that the reason why her heart stopped 10 years ago was because her abusive husband tried to kill her ???

Yes, that is exactly what I think. The husband has already gotten money because of her, although he did not spend it on her care.

He may well receive other money after she is dead, by order from the judge. But, I do not think that is his motive for killing his wife.

He has a new life with a woman and children. He could easily divorce his wife and make her a ward of the state or give her back to her parents. They have stated publically that he could keep any money when she died.

There is something insidously evil about this case....and I think he wants her dead for a very good reason. She might very well incriminate him if rehabilated.

19 posted on 10/14/2003 3:45:28 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: joesnuffy
I know she can’t take solids at this time but perhaps we could all start sending Terri pizza tomorrow and see what kind of coverage this gets in the mainstream media?
20 posted on 10/14/2003 4:01:04 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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