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Girl Kills Herself After Rape
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | October 16, 2003 | Chicago Sun-Times

Posted on 10/16/2003 6:21:24 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

An 11-year-old girl apparently hanged herself in her bedroom after being raped by her father earlier in the day in Syracuse, N.Y., police said. Valerie Charlene Lucie was found dead on Sept. 30.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: endofcivilization; rape; sick; suicide
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To: Callahan
In Kobe's case, it appears that she did.

There's no way now that Kobe will be convicted.
41 posted on 10/16/2003 8:59:08 AM PDT by xzins
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To: nmh
I woudn't worry about dear dad being "smeared" since charges haven't been presented.

No charges were filed in her death...he was charged with rape and sodomy....

42 posted on 10/16/2003 9:00:37 AM PDT by Krodg (We have the ability because the leader in command knows who's in control....God Bless America.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
"1. Do you think the father is insane?

2. Do you think the death penalty for this scumbag is appropriate?
"

1. No.

2. No.

Like many others, I oppose the death penalty.
43 posted on 10/16/2003 9:10:14 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Come quickly, Lord Jesus.
44 posted on 10/16/2003 9:11:34 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: kaylar
Imus was discussing this on his program this morning. According to the original confession, the father said he told the girl to go into the bathroom so he could cut her hair, because as he said, he knew "it would scare her". She protested saying she didn't want to get her hair cut so he grabbed her by the arm, leaving bruises and forced her into the bathroom, locked the door and then raped her.

Why would he confess to something like this if he was in fact innocent?

45 posted on 10/16/2003 9:17:56 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Any political party that includes the word 'democratic' in its name, isn't.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
So this is it. Homeschooling pokes the Liberals in the eyes. Now we'll have a smear campaign. Don't expect to hear about the percenatge of parental abuse among homeschooled and public schooled children. Expect the same old trick - a crime is "vicious" and "hateful" when commited by a white. Never mind any violent crime statistics. Eventualy the children will be taken away from their parents at the end of breast-feeding and after that fully "educated" and indoctrinated by the state. Parents are dangerous animals after all - they may even tell their chidren the TRUTH!. Imagine that.
46 posted on 10/16/2003 9:42:01 AM PDT by singsong
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To: Rutles4Ever
Even this tragic case doesn't make me change my mind about GHC

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1001097/posts?page=44
47 posted on 10/16/2003 9:43:40 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
A number of yrs back we had a girl in the area raped. The newspaper printed her name. She was a minor. Well the next day she killed herself. It is important to keep the names of rape victims out of the media for this reason.
48 posted on 10/16/2003 9:44:50 AM PDT by daddyOwe
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To: isthisnickcool
I can't imagine the horror of this. God bless this poor child--and yes, her father too--to make him face the depth of his sin.
49 posted on 10/16/2003 9:46:12 AM PDT by ArcLight
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To: steplock
It's politically correct to have all the problems you want with your kids as long as you don't homeschool them. When your kids are murderers and pregnant and suicidal, you are just part of one big public school using family. If you are not part of that family, which I'm not, then whatever you do is suspect and any failures you make are cause for celebration.
50 posted on 10/16/2003 9:53:57 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: daddyOwe
It is important to keep the names of rape victims out of the media for this reason.

In Britain, it is illegal to even print the name of the accused. Kind of ironic that they take "innocent until proven guilty" a bit more seriously than we do.

51 posted on 10/16/2003 9:58:51 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Any political party that includes the word 'democratic' in its name, isn't.)
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To: MineralMan
So you don't think someone who rapes their own baby is insane, as if this is the product of a sane person?

I think anyone who rapes their own daughter is clearly insane.

As for your feelings on the death penalty, that's fine with me, to each his own. (besides, as she killed herself, it wouldn't apply here anyway.)
52 posted on 10/16/2003 10:12:36 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (GO Red Sox !)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Indeed. God rest her soul.

This evil excuse for a human being that would do this to his child had better get ready for the millstone to be draped over his neck!

Meanwhile, it's too bad he can't get a dose of Singapore justice.

The week the little weasel (from Dayton, Ohio area) was sentenced to five strokes of the brine-soaked cane for spray painting Singaporean autos and ripping off street signs, a miserable excuse for a human was sentenced for raping two little girls who were ten years old. He was given a sentence of 100 whacks of the cane and life at hard labor.

He didn't survive the caning.

53 posted on 10/16/2003 10:18:30 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Prosecutors said Timothy Lucie confessed to the crime during an interrogation Monday night, but he later recanted that statement after talking with a lawyer.

If this account is true, this lawyer is evil.

Medical examiners could find no evidence of chronic sexual abuse, and the Sept. 30 rape appears to be an isolated incident, District Attorney William Fitzpatrick said.

An isolated incident that completely extinguished a young girl’s will to live.

The lawyer for Timothy Lucie said he is being wrongly accused, and the girl’s mother is standing by her husband, as is their pastor.

If this account is true, this mother doesn’t possess one ounce of mothering instinct, and this pastor should resign his position and become a lawyer. He’d make a damn(ed) good one.

There is nothing the justice system can do to this man that will sufficiently punish him for what he did to a poor, innocent child who depended on him. But he will know a more profound justice someday, thank God.

And He will bless this little girl, and provide her the love and comfort she was denied by her parents …. as only He can.

Don’t believe I’ve ever cried simply reading an FR post before.

54 posted on 10/16/2003 10:21:46 AM PDT by joanie-f (Keep your faith in all beautiful things; in the sun when it is hidden, in the spring when it is gone)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Dominus vobiscum, little one.
55 posted on 10/16/2003 10:22:43 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Rutles4Ever
"I pray she was taken straight to heaven. She's just a child!"

I'm sure she was, and now she rests in truly loving arms.

56 posted on 10/16/2003 10:24:51 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Fierce Allegiance
One problem with the death penalty possibility is this happened in New York. Good luck.
57 posted on 10/16/2003 10:25:33 AM PDT by GW=ReaganJr.
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To: alisasny
You cannot compare an 11 year old child taking a shower in her own home with a groupie that visits strange men up in their hotel rooms for her dates. The cases have nothing similar --- so why even bring Kobe into this?
58 posted on 10/16/2003 10:48:16 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
I was responding to Callahan who asked Is Kobe's lawyer going to claim she had sex with three other men?

I was not responding to you.


59 posted on 10/16/2003 11:23:16 AM PDT by alisasny (Say no to drugs, Say YES to Jolly Ranchers : ))
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To: Krodg
"No charges were filed in her death...he was charged with rape and sodomy...."

Good. I misunderstood. BTW is this her biological father or a stepfather?

60 posted on 10/16/2003 11:26:12 AM PDT by nmh
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