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SAF Says Anti-Gun Missouri Police Chief Should Shelve Confiscation Plan
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Posted on 10/16/2003 6:52:01 PM PDT by chance33_98

SAF Says Anti-Gun Missouri Police Chief Should Shelve Confiscation Plan

10/16/03 4:07:00 PM

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To: State Desk

Contact: Alan Gottlieb of the Second Amendment Foundation, 425-454-7012; Web: http://www.saf.org

BELLEVUE, Wash., Oct. 16 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) today said Hazelwood, Mo., Police Chief Carl Wolf should set his personal anti-gun politics aside and shelve an order to have his officers seize firearms from motorists they encounter in routine traffic stops, when the state's concealed carry law takes effect.

SAF obtained a copy of Chief Wolf's memorandum to his officers, ordering them to check any firearm they find in any vehicle they stop, to determine whether it is lost or stolen, and finally, "Officers shall then seize the firearm, package as evidence, and forward the firearm...to the St. Louis County Firearms Lab, to determine if the firearm has been used in the commission of a crime."

"This is an outrage, and it violates Fourth and Fifth Amendment provisions regarding illegal search and seizure, and due process," stated SAF Founder Alan Gottlieb. "Chief Wolf's vehement anti-gun attitudes and his long-standing opposition to concealed carry for Missouri residents are well known. By issuing this order, Wolf is clearly allowing his personal biases to influence how he runs his department.

"Seizure of a firearm for no other reason than blind suspicion to find out whether it's been used in a crime amounts to a legal fishing expedition, and tramples all over such long-standing legal principles as 'innocent until proven guilty' and 'probable cause'," Gottlieb added. "Chief Wolf is a vocal opponent of concealed carry in Missouri, and he even allowed himself to be quoted in a 1999 Handgun Control news release.

"By ordering his men to seize all firearms-and there is no indication in his memo that there should be any exceptions, despite his claims of officer discretion to the contrary-Chief Wolf is practicing a new, and contemptibly low form of harassment," Gottlieb observed. "Law-abiding Missouri gun owners should not be fearful of driving through Hazelwood, and having their property confiscated, pretty much on a whim, because Chief Wolf doesn't like a new gun law. Has this guy ever heard of the Bill of Rights?

"Missouri gun rights activists," Gottlieb concluded, "are justifiably concerned that Chief Wolf's order could result in a tragic incident that might later be used to justify his opposition to the citizens' right to bear arms. If Wolf wants to practice politics, he should first get out of law enforcement. This kind of demagoguery should not have the protection of a police chief's badge."

The Second Amendment Foundation is the nation's oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 600,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. SAF has previously funded successful firearms-related suits against the cities of Los Angeles; New Haven, CT; and San Francisco on behalf of American gun owners, a lawsuit against the cities suing gun makers & an amicus brief & fund for the Emerson case holding the Second Amendment as an individual right.


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1 posted on 10/16/2003 6:52:02 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: bang_list; Missouri; 1stMarylandRegiment; 47carollann; A Citizen Reporter; A Cyrenian; adrian; ...
BANG!
Does this police chief need an attitude readjustment or what?
2 posted on 10/16/2003 6:54:59 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
Thanks for the ping Joe.

I live right next to Hazelwood in Florissant and I'm sure the same thing will be going on here.

3 posted on 10/16/2003 7:20:21 PM PDT by Missouri
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To: chance33_98
"Officers shall then seize the firearm, package as evidence, and forward the firearm...to the St. Louis County Firearms Lab, to determine if the firearm has been used in the commission of a crime."

Wonder what the ACLU thinks about this? :-)

(I won't be holding my breath waiting for them to file suit.)

4 posted on 10/16/2003 7:21:50 PM PDT by TheEngineer
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
(re-ping cause it looks like Just another Joe forgot his asterisk)
5 posted on 10/16/2003 7:29:38 PM PDT by wafflehouse (the hell you say!)
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To: wafflehouse
(kicking at the floor) Gee whiz, dad, I'm not used to this high falutin' stuff. ;^)
You got me!
6 posted on 10/16/2003 7:39:09 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
Governments tend to be as oppressive as the people will allow.
7 posted on 10/16/2003 7:58:09 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
. . . and then they hold an irregular election.
8 posted on 10/16/2003 8:01:09 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Just another Joe
I think he needs a job readjustment.
9 posted on 10/16/2003 8:48:21 PM PDT by scott7278 ("If I'm not back by dawn -- call the president.")
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To: chance33_98
This guy sounds like he is trying to incite an incident by illegally confiscating personal property in order use it via the left wing anti-gun media to whip up hysteria against guns.
10 posted on 10/16/2003 9:07:44 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: chance33_98
Sewee! Pig, Pig, Pig ... just calling the hogs in case someone wants to feed them.

Aren't Chiefs of Police supposed to enforce the law, not make it?

11 posted on 10/16/2003 9:11:28 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: chance33_98
I am considering opening a second location for my retail store and Hazelwood has a brand new mall...

Guess I'll look elsewhere, as I carry cash and carry!!!

12 posted on 10/16/2003 9:35:48 PM PDT by demsux
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To: chance33_98
This guy is only going to cost the city of Hazelwood alot of money in lawsuits. This should not be a issue for long. I live in neighboring Florissant and know Hazelwood very well. It is not a wealthy city by any means. It is kind of small, with a small Police force. This police chief is blowing smoke ( and its not cigarette smoke ).
13 posted on 10/16/2003 11:17:46 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon (Go USA Eagles !!! Beat those Frenchies !!!!)
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To: Free Vulcan
I am sure the chief would get plenty of help from St Louis Post Dispatch if he needs the media.

14 posted on 10/16/2003 11:34:10 PM PDT by TYVets ("An armed society is a polite society." - Robert A. Heinlien & me)
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To: Just another Joe
heck i wouldnt have known, had i not seen it happen on another thread.. i just happened to remember..
15 posted on 10/17/2003 3:31:56 AM PDT by wafflehouse (the hell you say!)
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To: BOBWADE
Ping. He has no business being in law enforcement.
16 posted on 10/17/2003 3:58:27 AM PDT by zip
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To: El Gato
Aren't Chiefs of Police supposed to enforce the law, not make it?

Well, leftist judges make laws so I guess leftist police chiefs can too.

17 posted on 10/17/2003 4:01:44 AM PDT by zip
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To: zip
What a turd. Someone should stop him out of his little kingdom and confiscate his gun.
18 posted on 10/17/2003 4:26:38 AM PDT by BOBWADE
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To: chance33_98
Hazelwood police chief is a commie. law by anarchy.
19 posted on 10/17/2003 6:20:28 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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20 posted on 10/17/2003 7:38:21 AM PDT by moyden2000
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