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Gun control's `guiding light' faces challenge
Associated Press
| 10-17-03
Posted on 10/17/2003 11:27:23 AM PDT by Brian S
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posted on
10/17/2003 11:27:23 AM PDT
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Brian S
To: *bang_list
Ping...
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posted on
10/17/2003 11:28:11 AM PDT
by
Brian S
(" In the United States, armed masses represent the foundation of political order.")
To: Brian S
"To have someone who can look other members (of Congress) in the face and talk to them from a very personal experience, that can make all the difference....Yeah, in disarming the rest of the law abiding populace so THEY might never have a "CHANCE" to save their OWN lives.
BEHOLD! The mind of the Defenseless
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posted on
10/17/2003 11:32:58 AM PDT
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
To: Brian S
sounds like the socialists are not going to allow the second amendment rights of citizens to return without a fight. The article is a propaganda puff piece to make this fool a poster child for the ban. Since logic can't win the day, get people to feeeeeeel their way on the issue.
To: Brian S
Brian, do you have a link for this? I would like to forward this article to the NRA media strike force.
Thanks,
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posted on
10/17/2003 11:45:11 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
("If you need a lawyer to tell you what your rights are, you don't have any rights.")
To: Brian S
I truly feel sorry for this woman's plight. It's a pity that she didn't concentrate her efforts towards laws that could have actually been useful in stopping a rampage murderer like a CCW law. This story isn't unique. A lady in TX was inside the Luby's resteraunt where her parents were killed by a rampage murderer. Unlike Ms. McCarthy, she ran for and won a seat in the state legislature, and single-handedly worked to install a CCW law in TX. Her parents were murdered right in front of her while her gun was stowed in her vehicle in the parking lot--where it was legally required to be.
To: Brian S
All that energy; all that money; all that stupidity. If passengers aboard that train had been allowed to CCW, the shooting would have been very short and the gunman very dead in an instant. But no; this Liberal doofus insists that EVERYONE must remain as defenseless as her late husband.
psychosis [sy.KO.sis] (n).
The inability to distinguish between what is real and what is imaginary. Psychosis is a term used to describe a severe mental illness. Psychotics are characterized by a variety of symptoms that most people consider abnormal. These include experiencing delusions, such as the notion that one is being persecuted or conspired against. Psychotics may see things which don't actually exist and hear Voices (i.e. God) when no one is around. They often exhibit compulsive, irrational, ritualized behavior, esp. when such behavior serves no purpose or is even harmful or disruptive to those around them. They show no concern for others but may exhibit total self-centered behavior. Includes sociopathy, schizophrenia.
DSM-IV
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posted on
10/17/2003 11:48:58 AM PDT
by
pabianice
To: Space Wrangler
Crusader organization are the bane of politics. Even the woman who started MADD quit after they became more interested in raising money than in issues.
To argue for empowerment of individuals to engage in self help is contrary to modern democrat party politics. The LAST thing the democrat party wants is empowered citizens.
To: longtermmemmory
But McCarthy seems undeterred by the opposition and expressed confidence in her record. She also said he was not afraid of ruffling feathers as the gun control battle heats up again.
"I'm already getting colleagues saying, 'You're not going to bring this up again, are you?"' McCarthy said. "I say, "Yeah, I am."'
I think you might have missed the last point, at least from my viewpoint. Whether those colleagues are rats or pubbies, they seem to be saying stay away from gun control, please, we want to keep our jobs.
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posted on
10/17/2003 11:59:27 AM PDT
by
neverdem
(Say a prayer for New York both for it's lefty statism and the probability the city will be hit again)
To: Brian S
If Carolyn McCarthy wanted to do something effective to prevent murders and other violence, she would push for legislation to inflict the death penalty on violent criminals.
If Colin Ferguson were dead, we would be absolutely sure that he would never kill anyone again, ever.
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posted on
10/17/2003 12:05:06 PM PDT
by
punster
To: Brian S
"It was probably the saddest movie that I have ever watched, mainly because when that movie was made, all of the issues are exactly what we're dealing with today," she said. "It was gun violence, the choice issue, the environment, education."People like MS. McCarthy are not only dangerous, they are historically ignorant.
As an example let me cite two differant remodeling jobs I was involved in, one on Cape Cod in the eighties and the other in Maine a few years ago.
On both jobs we found old newspapers in the walls, the Cape papers from the mid-thirties and the Maine papers from the early twenties.
The front page stories could have been written today: Trouble in the Middle East, taxes and regulations increasing and race problems.
All the same issues that we're dealing with today.
Oh yeah. And the Red Sox lose.
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posted on
10/17/2003 12:09:34 PM PDT
by
metesky
(Belligerence is a state of mind - mine.)
To: Brian S
McCarthy, a former nurse, fought fervently for gun control after her husband was killed aboard the commuter train on Dec. 7, 1993. One civilian with a CHL, or better yet exercising "Vermont Carry", could and probably would have saved her husband.
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posted on
10/17/2003 12:24:35 PM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: Space Wrangler
Unlike Ms. McCarthy, she ran for and won a seat in the state legislature, and single-handedly worked to install a CCW law in TX. Her parents were murdered right in front of her while her gun was stowed in her vehicle in the parking lot--where it was legally required to be.
Well, not quite single handedly. She did provide the "spark" that got the legislation passed however. The law was passed *before* she was elected, but her testimony was pivotal.
BTW, the gun was just as illegal in the glovebox of her truck as it would have been in her purse. However the chances of being caught were much lower. She was worried about losing her license to practice her proffession. BTW. Her name was then Dr. Suzanna Gratia, now Gratia-Hupp. Nice lady, I've met her once.
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posted on
10/17/2003 12:38:45 PM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: El Gato
BTW, the gun was just as illegal in the glovebox of her truck as it would have been in her purse. That's assunming it was loaded, or the ammunition was also accessable. You can not carry a loaded handgun in your vehicle in Texas, without a CHL permit of course. How they read "but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms" to allow them to regulate (read BAN) keeping them in a vehicle, I'll never understand completely.
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posted on
10/17/2003 12:44:30 PM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: Brian S
McCarthy, a former nurse, fought fervently for gun control Certainly we sympathize with her, but if memory serves correctly, the perp used a handgun , not an assault rifle. Plus, he was already forbidden from owning weapons since he had a history of mental problems.
Gun laws don't address the problem of gun violence. Never have.
To: El Gato
Thanks for the correction. The fog of time has kind of clouded my memory!
To: longtermmemmory
Crusader organization are the bane of politics. Even the woman who started MADD quit after they became more interested in raising money than in issues.
She also was arrested for drunk driving, and claimed before the charges were dismissed to have had only a couple glasses of wine. yeah right.
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posted on
10/17/2003 4:51:20 PM PDT
by
SSN558
(Be on the lookout for Black White-Supremacists)
To: El Gato
Unlike Ms. McCarthy, she ran for and won a seat in the state legislature, and single-handedly worked to install a CCW law in TX. Her parents were murdered right in front of her while her gun was stowed in her vehicle in the parking lot--where it was legally required to be.
Well, not quite single handedly. She did provide the "spark" that got the legislation passed however. The law was passed *before* she was elected, but her testimony was pivotal.
She's been working hard to help the rest of the country, as well. She was up here in Minnesota to testify before our legislature, during our fight, and I know we're not the only state she's done that in.
And the speech she gave for the SAS's at the first Million Moms March was unforgettable.
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posted on
10/17/2003 4:52:30 PM PDT
by
jdege
To: jdege
She's been working hard to help the rest of the country, as well. She was up here in Minnesota to testify before our legislature, during our fight, and I know we're not the only state she's done that in.She gave a talk at a gun rights rally in Dayton, OH, too. I spoke at the same one, and had a chance to talk with her. Really nice lady.
To: Brian S
"Nearly a decade after her husband was killed and her son badly wounded..."Well...I DO feel bad for the victims...but in the case of hubby....isn't it remotely possible that with a wife like HIS...he wanted this outcome? Naaaaaaa, divorce would have been more sensible.
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posted on
10/17/2003 6:54:43 PM PDT
by
ExSoldier
(My other auto is a .45!)
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