It's Final: Most lost jobs gone for good, analysts say

AP ^ | October 19, 2003

[Asclepius]

... no matter how loyal the employee or how excellent the quality of work ...

What odd reasoning. Does the world simply owe us a living if we're loyal and work hard?

[rrrod]

ok ok ok...lets raise taxes on biz so we can help the unemployed,,sarcasm/

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

The 'world' doesn't owe us a living.
America owes Americans the opportunity to work for a living. Americans have bled and died for America and to protect American interests abroad.
Americans have paid taxes to the American government. Our taxes have been used as foreign aid, to educate foreigners in our classrooms and to protect foreign countries.
Some of those taxes are also being used by OPIC and the Export-Import Bank to encourage businesses to offshore and outsource.
Our government is allowing sensitive technology to be stolen by Communist China.
Now THAT is VERY ODD. It is National Suicide.

[hedgetrimmer]

Most lost jobs gone for good, analysts say

Brainwashing technique called coercive persusion. They want us to give up our sovereignty to globalization and they are trying really hard to convince us there is nothing we can do about it.

There is plenty to be done, freeper harpseal has a set of steps that are a great start.

[lucysmom]

Your post reminds me of this quote from Lenin, "The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."

[contessa machiaveli]

that's the point, the employed are going to pay. the real culprits are the politicians, both democrats and republicans who have allowed our country to be sold. if they had to work for a living and didn't reside in their own fiefdoms of special interests, things would be different.
we work for our lords and masters(our ahem, public servants, who are not citizens anymore but the new american royalty) just as the peasants did back in the middle ages.

[contessa machiaveli]

there is lifetime employment in japan and in spite of its past economic woes,it still remains one of the most vibrant and educated economies in the world.
in japan if a CEO is helming a failing corporation he has the decency to take personal responsibility and in extreme cases do the honorable thing...kill himself, rather than blame the usual scapegoat (low productivity).

[upcountryhorseman]

Have I missed something? I thought that our armed
services were all volunteer.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

At the moment it is, but what difference would it make if it had always been?

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Yes, quite ironic. I would like to see how she came up with 12.5k.

[Lijahsbubbe]

we work for our lords and masters(our ahem, public servants, who are not citizens anymore but the new american royalty

Exactly. And although people may say this facetiously, it has become the truth.

[rabidralph]

I'm sure there was a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth when the last buggy whip factory closed its doors, too.

[oceanview]

along with blue jeans makers, we are also losing the semiconductor industry to china and IT to india. are they "buggywhips" too? tell us, what new industries are being developed right now within the country, that will employ americans, outside low paying service industries?

[Cacique]

ping

[rabidralph]

Heck, I don't know. I was just expressing my opinion. My mom owns her own travel agency and my dad is a dentist. Both of them are successful and none of their work is being outsourced to India. I would imagine that American entrepreneurship(sp) will start a surge in creating new jobs. Outsourcing government jobs to American contractors (A-76 reform) will help, too. I am merely stating my opinion. Looking for answers in an online forum from a total stranger is kind of stupid.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

Making ignorant statements you have no intention of supporting or not and then assuming someone is asking you for answers is especially stupid.

Hundreds of threads with this theme have been posted for several months. If you are interested in some good answers check harpseal's profile page.
Engaging in truly meaningful discussion is always welcomed.

[oceanview]

I am not looking for answers per say, but any input is welcome.

imagine if the US government tomorrow decided to allow a program to allow foreign dentists to enter the US to work at 60% of the wage of US dentists? En masse, by the tens of thousands? That's how people who work in IT feel right now.

[Willie Green]

My mom owns her own travel agency and my dad is a dentist. Both of them are successful and none of their work is being outsourced to India.

Well ralphie, their businesses will be adversely affected as well as their customers will increasingly continue to find their services to be unaffordable. It's the "ripple effect".

[NutCrackerBoy]

It's the "ripple effect".

I don't know if Walter Williams has specifically addressed outsourcing, but I agree in general with his analysis of economics. Our consumers benefit from cheaper products. If outsourcing makes the products cheaper, then that's that. I don't want the government intervening in market economics. I only want it to enforce fair laws.

[oceanview]

yes, not too many $8/hr walmart workers needing a travel agent after all!