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Atheist Never Married "Pledge Of Allegiance" Daughter's Mother, Case Should Be Dismissed
BushCountry.org ^ | 10/21/22 | Rev. Austin Miles

Posted on 10/21/2003 8:24:43 PM PDT by ranair34

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To: ranair34
If I were Newdow, I'd repent. This man will go down as the devil incarnate..

But then, maybe he is.
21 posted on 10/21/2003 9:16:44 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: truthandjustice1; Cicero
From a legal standpoint, it's far too late to raise the issue of whether the father has standing. This should have been raised in the trial court.
22 posted on 10/21/2003 9:21:18 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: ranair34
Michael Newdow is a "Red Diaper Baby" from a long line of Red Diaper Babies. The descendants of Eastern Europeans that immigrated to the U.S. before the Bolshevik, Russian revolution in 1917. Most of them came from Russia to America from 1900 until 1918. They missed out on the communist revolution in Russia and tried to encourage one in the USA for 70 years. Since the economic theory of Marxism has been discredited, the only ideology left for them to cling to is atheism. Newdow is on a "Jihad" for no God at all.
23 posted on 10/21/2003 9:27:33 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: ranair34
the words "unde rGod," inserted by Congress in 1954

You know, I'm not that fond of those particular words, myself.

24 posted on 10/21/2003 9:29:19 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Prime Choice
Wouldn't it be sweet justice to see him found guilty of perjury and disbarred? I'm not holding my breath for it to happen but I will certainly enjoy the scenario mentally.

Round trip tickets to CA: $1500
Hotel Accomodations: $250/night
Small coffee and NewsMax Magazine: $37.95
Seeing Newdow's face live when he's disbarred: Priceless
25 posted on 10/21/2003 9:32:44 PM PDT by Donaeus
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To: Cicero
Well .. you may be right, but I hope the USSC throws it out.
26 posted on 10/21/2003 9:37:21 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Donaeus
Is Newdow an attorney? I thought he was a doctor who just refuses to work for a living...JFK
27 posted on 10/21/2003 9:46:18 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: onyx
"The daughter is against the lawsuit her non-custodial father filed and she has repeatedly stated her opinion many times".

"Let SCOTUS put this to rest, once and hopefully, for all time.

This is not a trivial issue. If the court allows it to go forward, it opens the door to others filing suits "on behalf of " your child without your permission!

28 posted on 10/21/2003 9:50:11 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: CyberAnt
" I hope the USSC throws the guy and his lawsuit out the door.

But not without publicly chastising the 9th Circuit for ineptitude. Is this something that came to light since the 9th conjured up its incantation?

29 posted on 10/21/2003 9:55:27 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: ranair34
In her first public comment since the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with Newdow that the words "unde rGod," inserted by Congress in 1954, make the pledge an unconstitutional endorsement of religion,

The U.S. Constitution doesn't forbid an endorsement of religion - it forbids an establishment of religion.

30 posted on 10/21/2003 9:57:14 PM PDT by usadave
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To: cookcounty
"If the court allows it to go forward, it opens the door to others filing suits "on behalf of " your child without your permission!"

Why did Lazaro Gonzalez come to mind when I read this?

31 posted on 10/21/2003 9:57:59 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"You know, I'm not that fond of those particular words, myself."

How about something more Jeffersonian, something from the Spirit of 1776, like,

"Under Our Creator""

32 posted on 10/21/2003 10:03:02 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: cookcounty
I've got a better idea. Let's just leave it like it is :')
33 posted on 10/21/2003 10:14:30 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: ranair34
He's her father so being married to the mother means exactly nothing.
34 posted on 10/21/2003 10:33:16 PM PDT by Az Joe
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To: Donaeus
If lawyers were disbarred for perjury, about %99 of all lawyers would be out looking for new jobs tomorrow. Not that I'm complaining, mind you, but c'mon, let's get real here. Ain't gonna happen. Our courts are playgrounds of evil. Boot camps for the followers of the eternal forces of chaos and lies. Training camps for the denizens of darkness.

Truth in advertising would mean that the entrance to all courtrooms would have the words "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here" carved over them.
35 posted on 10/21/2003 11:17:35 PM PDT by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Is it possible she is a "common law" wife?

Nope- California abolished common law marriage roughly a century ago, and thus does not recognize it as any arrangement producing right or obligations.
36 posted on 10/21/2003 11:23:46 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: PhiKapMom
>>Thanks for posting this -- wonder why this wasn't brought out before -- sounds like someone has been doing some digging! What a lowlife that guy is!

Is Newdow in bed with Michael Schiavo and George Felos? :)

37 posted on 10/21/2003 11:25:41 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: BADROTOFINGER
Yes, Michael Newdow is an attorney. He was admitted to the bar on July 29, 2002 after earning a law degree from the University of Michigan, too.

Public records are wonderful.

Just randomly, here's two more fun ones: Attorney General Bill Lockyer and Shawn Steel, former state GOP chair. Pick your favourite attorney today!
38 posted on 10/21/2003 11:32:16 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: ranair34
Another Clintoon legacy, lying to the court...for personal gain...
39 posted on 10/21/2003 11:32:56 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: ranair34
...Courts can only hear cases in which there is an injured party, and if there is no injury there is no grounds for a case...

True enough, but...

1. Newdow has standing as a parent to challenge a practice that interferes with his right to direct the reiligious education of his daughter. Doe v. Madison, 1999 and others.

2. The case is Michael Newdow vs. U.S. Congress, not Newdow's daughter vs. U.S. Congress.

The fact that his daughter and his daughter's mother claim no injury does not mean that Newdow cannot claim injury to his daughter.

Newdow claims his daughter was "injured" simply by being exposed to the pledge in a state-run school. He doesn't claim that his daughter doesn't want to say the pledge.

To illustrate, let's say that the school was teaching sex education in the elementary school, and that Newdow's daughter and his daughter's mother both had no problem with that. Newdow could still claim that the sex education "injured" his daughter. He has the right to say that in his opinion, his daughter is being injured.

The issues of standing and injury have all been addressed. Newdow absolutely has the right to file this lawsuit.

When someone says "the daughter's not complaining" therefore Newdow lied when he says his daughter was "injured" don't understand that, in Newdow's opinion, his daughter is "injured" whether she says so or not, therefore he did not lie.

you can read the facts of the case here:
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/conlaw/newdowus62602opn.pdf

40 posted on 10/21/2003 11:45:54 PM PDT by Flashlight
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