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Pakistan, Saudi Arabia in secret nuke pact
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 10.22.2003 | Arnaud de Borchgrave

Posted on 10/21/2003 11:32:21 PM PDT by DoctorZIn

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:09:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have concluded a secret agreement on "nuclear cooperation" that will provide the Saudis with nuclear-weapons technology in exchange for cheap oil, according to a ranking Pakistani insider.

The disclosure came at the end of a 26-hour state visit to Islamabad last weekend by Crown Prince Abdullah bin Abdulaziz, Saudi Arabia's de facto ruler, who flew across the Arabian Sea with an entourage of 200, including Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al Faisal and several Cabinet ministers.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arnauddeborchgrave; nukes; pact; pakistan; saudiarabia

1 posted on 10/21/2003 11:32:21 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 10/21/2003 11:33:27 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn; All
OH OH Doctor

NOT good idea

Gee wonder maybe Pakstein want get scoreboard on India who they have blood feud for years now they need nukes

Also don't forget Saudis who been appease terrorists in their country so they won't take out Royal Family
3 posted on 10/21/2003 11:38:37 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: DoctorZIn
A couple of well-placed MOABs would improve their landscape.
4 posted on 10/21/2003 11:45:17 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: SevenofNine; Pro-Bush; DoctorZIn; Travis McGee; Chronos; swarthyguy; ALOHA RONNIE; tet68; ...
We need to inform the Pakistanis that it's time for them to disarm, or else we will do it for them. And Idon't believe that Iran will honor its promises to allow inspections. As for the Saudis, we need to make sure they understand that they can have nukes but only the kind that come pre-detonated. Unfortunately, our multinational diplomacy in the DPRK is emboldening our fiercest enemies.

This isn't good.
5 posted on 10/22/2003 12:06:22 AM PDT by risk
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To: DoctorZIn
Hmmm...let's see, it was about 1996-7 when they became a nuclear power?

How'd we let that happen?
6 posted on 10/22/2003 12:16:28 AM PDT by Bogey78O (No! Don't throw me in the briar patch!!!!!)
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To: DoctorZIn
Holy Smokes....not only does this make sense.....but it puts a whole new light on the dangers.

Now that the left has stopped us dead in our tracks on the war and once again demonized the CIA - it is more grave.

And the "smart ones" are protesting

7 posted on 10/22/2003 2:56:12 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: Bogey78O
The Muslims are arming for global conquest.
We are headed to a world war with Islam, like it or not.
Better wipe them out now while we can do so with minimal casualties of our own.
Otherwise, 911 was just a bitter appetizer as to what awaits us.
8 posted on 10/22/2003 3:06:25 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: DoctorZIn
To strengthen our hand against the Saudis, we should be drilling in ANWR.
9 posted on 10/22/2003 3:23:59 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Bon mots
As Hiroshima and Nagasaki, so should go Mecca and Medina, as demonstrations to the Moslem world the West means business.

If they want to have their nasty little religion in their own pigpens, fine, but don't mess with the real world. And, BTW, ragheads, all your oil are belong to us.

10 posted on 10/22/2003 3:26:26 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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More discussion on this can be found here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1004562/posts
11 posted on 10/22/2003 4:07:35 AM PDT by Mixer
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To: Bon mots
The Muslims are arming for global conquest. We are headed to a world war with Islam, like it or not. Better wipe them out now while we can do so with minimal casualties of our own. Otherwise, 911 was just a bitter appetizer as to what awaits us.

Sad to say it, but I'm afraid you're right.
12 posted on 10/22/2003 4:10:33 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: DoctorZIn
Everytime I see that banner I wonder what the heck Rocky is doing in Iran. Staying alive?
13 posted on 10/22/2003 5:22:30 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: DoctorZIn
OK, the lines are being drawn.

All the more reason to form the iron-clad regional triumvirate against radical islamist terrorism:The United States, Israel and India (that's 1.5 billion people right there).

14 posted on 10/22/2003 5:27:48 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: kinghorse
He's preparing for his toughest fight yet against Apollo Clubber Ivan Mohamed.
15 posted on 10/22/2003 5:29:16 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Bon mots
You are exactly correct in assessment sir.
16 posted on 10/22/2003 5:55:38 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: Bon mots
We are in the nascent stages of World War III. There will be very hard decisions to make down the road.

The most striking, bizarre, and completely miscalculated event was truly 9/11. Had Bin Laden & Co. kept their powder dry until a WMD was deliverable, this country would have seen a devastation like none other. Instead, "they gave us their best shot," as Ollie North pointed out, with hijacked airliners instead. An absolute historic miscalculation, perhaps on the level of Hitler invading Russia in winter.

9/11 forced us to confront this enemy BEFORE a WMD could be detonated on the mainland. In spite of the carnage created by the atrocity of 9/11, in their death, the innocent souls who perished may have prevented something much MUCH worse.

Now we're faced with nuclear proliferation among rogue states. Iran, N. Korea, Pakistan (quasi-rogue), and China have nuclear weapons and/or technology to create those weapons AND/or proliferate them. Libya, Saudi Arabia, and perhaps even Syria (thanks, Saddam) are on their way to harnessing either the weapons or technology of their own.

Israel's military is clearly superior in the Middle East, but that gap is closing quick. Should Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia or Syria deploy even a short-range missile, Israel's military advantage suddenly vanishes, and the game is on.

Meanwhile, N. Korea is clearly prepared to test longer range missiles with the capability of not only reaching Japan (that's already possible), but also U.S. territories in the Pacific rim, and perhaps Alaska. China is licking its chops at an opportunity to play "all your nuclear facilities are belong to us" and do the world a favor by "eliminating" Kim Jong-il and his borders all at the same time before Beijing is in his sites. S. Korea's schizophrenic relationship with the United States ("Imperialist pigs! Wait -- don't go!) has led to a decreasing U.S. presence on the peninsula, and now Japan needs to seriously debate building its own nuclear arsenal.

Enough yet? Back in Pakistan, we've got radical Islamic insurgents (and homegrown types) threatening the coup-born leadership of Pervez Musharaff. India is one major terrorist event away from coming back to the nuclear brink. And we still can't find bin Laden (dead or alive).

Southeast Asia is a virtual sperm bank of terrorism, with the Phillipines and Australia tasked with being inviting targets. We have the Malaysians scapegoating the Jews (unabashedly), Indonesia's a pathetic, diseased land mass, and the level of protection for the President is unprecedented due to the overwhelming threat.

Seems to me unless everyone puts down their shoulder-fired missiles and goes back to the farm, we're in for a long, LONG conflagration...
17 posted on 10/22/2003 6:32:46 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Bon mots
We're already in a world war and have been since the beginning of time. The weapons and their impact just get bigger and more devastating. Or smaller (suicide bombers) yet still more devastating.
18 posted on 10/22/2003 7:38:03 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: DoctorZIn
This treaty will be known as "The Pact of Dung".
19 posted on 10/22/2003 8:35:32 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: harpseal
Enemy of my enemy, whatever... Globalists and Free Traitors rejoice!
20 posted on 10/22/2003 8:37:59 AM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: Rutles4Ever
An absolute historic miscalculation, perhaps on the level of Hitler invading Russia in winter.

Bad history. The invasion began on June 22, 1941, the longest day of the year. Better formulation is as follows:

An absolute historic miscalculation, perhaps on the level of Hitler invading Russia.

21 posted on 10/22/2003 8:43:55 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Rutles4Ever
The most striking, bizarre, and completely miscalculated event was truly 9/11. Had Bin Laden & Co. kept their powder dry until a WMD was deliverable, this country would have seen a devastation like none other. Instead, "they gave us their best shot," as Ollie North pointed out, with hijacked airliners instead. An absolute historic miscalculation, perhaps on the level of Hitler invading Russia in winter.

Also, Saddam was foolish to invade Kuwait before he had the nuclear option. If he had waited only a couple more years, it would have been MUCH harder for us to deal with him. Thank goodness for their impatience.

22 posted on 10/22/2003 8:48:43 AM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: DoctorZIn
WOW! This went from Debka to the Times?

I don't want to hear anything bad about Debka anymore...

Really, this is NOT good.
23 posted on 10/22/2003 9:07:37 AM PDT by TSgt (I am proudly featured on U.S. Rep Rob Portman's homepage: http://www.house.gov/portman/)
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To: DoctorZIn
This is so secret, there have been only half a dozen threads so far.
24 posted on 10/22/2003 9:08:30 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
You are correct.
25 posted on 10/22/2003 9:48:19 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever
An absolute historic miscalculation, perhaps on the level of Hitler invading Russia in winter.

Hitler invaded the USSR on June 22, 1941. Because their advance on Moscow met very stiff resistance, the Germans got to experience the Russian winter.
26 posted on 10/22/2003 11:08:37 AM PDT by eddiespaghetti
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To: sheik yerbouty
The Pact of Dung".

Don't badmouth dung. In many impoverished places, it is a valuable source of fuel. Well, Saudi, er, never mind.

27 posted on 10/22/2003 11:23:34 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: DoctorZIn
From the incubator of terrorism in Saudi Arabia, our "allies", the Saudis will now provide nuclear weapons to the jihadi to use on U.S. civilians provided by the Pakistanis who are on the U.S. payroll. Instead of flying airliners into U.S. government buildings and populated towers, the terrorists or jihadis will now have nuclear weapons to use on U.S. civilian "infidels".

The U.S. should take over the oilfields in the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia NOW and liberate them from our "noble Saudi allies". Regime change is needed in Saudi Arabia.
28 posted on 10/22/2003 11:45:08 AM PDT by Mel Gibson (In response to the "huge hit our economy would take due to the increase in fuel cost"?)
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To: swarthyguy
There was once a "scandal sheet' in London in 1731, by the name of "The Pancras Boghouse", which once had the comment(about early graffitti though)
"If the smell of turd brings wit to flow, Laud, what would eating of it do?"
May the Saudis be forced to use it for food and not fuel!
29 posted on 10/22/2003 12:54:13 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: MikeWUSAF
Really, this is NOT good.

Why is it not good? I have been hearing nothing but praise from the Administration about the Saudis helping us out. You have to remember, it wasn't like a majority of hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi, and it wasn't like we just had a war over WMD in that region and are putting pressure on another country over WMD, and it's not like the Islamic clerics in Saudi Arabia are preaching hate for the west....all I'm hearing out of Washington is that the Saudis are our allies ;-)

30 posted on 10/22/2003 1:26:22 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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