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KEEP GOD OUT OF WHITHOUSE (College rag says Christians in WH more dangerous than terrorists)
The Orion (California State Univ) ^ | 10/22/03 | Ryan Sabadow

Posted on 10/22/2003 4:49:00 AM PDT by Mark Felton

The most dangerous force our country faces right now doesn't come from the threat of international terrorism. It comes from evangelical Christian fanatics connected to the White House, like Army Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin.

Last week, NBC ran a story showing Boykin in front of audiences at several evangelical churches across the country. Projected behind him was President George W. Bush. "Why is this man in the White House?" Boykin asked his audiences. "I tell you this morning, he's in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this."

This was after the recently appointed deputy undersecretary for intelligence also told the audiences the United States has been battling Satan during our war with Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. He also said the reason terrorists have been attacking us is "because we're a Christian nation."

The three-star general in full dress uniform told the cheering crowds that when he was fighting against a Muslim militia leader in Somalia in 1993, he knew the Christian god was on his side. He had nothing to fear from Muslims because their god was an idol.

If images of radical hell-fire-and-brimstone religious fanatics who scream at us in the Free-Speech Area come to mind, you're not far off. The worst part is that this man isn't a sandwich-board-toting crazy. He has actual power, and he is a leading military figure in our ongoing wars against Muslim countries. He's not alone. Bush and his staff of evangelical Christians are slowly forcing their views on the rest of America and the world. America is shifting from democracy to theocracy.

Almost immediately after Sept. 11, President Bush said we were now in a "crusade." Even though he later retracted this remark and has waged a public relations campaign saying he respects Islam, you can't help but feel that Bush thinks he's on a mission from God.

According to Newsweek, prior to deploying troops to Iraq, Bush, the self-proclaimed "Born Again" evangelical Christian, told religious broadcasters "terrorists hate the fact that ... we can worship Almighty God the way we see fit," and that the United States needs to bring God's gift of liberty to "every human being in the world." Sounds like he forgot to say "whether they want it or not."

Bush's use of religion as a justification of policy isn't limited to war. Last week he declared Marriage Protection Week. This anti-homosexual statement coincides with the anniversary of the death of 21-year-old Matthew Shepard's death. You may remember him. He was the student from Laramie, Wyo. who was beaten to death for being gay (See Hallie Gorman's column "Protection hurts gays" in last week's Orion for more information).

This tasteless statement is just one more way Bush places his religious views on others, and it comes only months after a summer of Bush using biblical references to promote heterosexual marriage over homosexuals. Bush isn't just making statements - he also plans on using our tax dollars to fund his religious views.

According to Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the Bush administration plans on creating a "faith based" initiative that could funnel large sums of public funds to religious social services. Under the initiative, $30.5 million will go to grants given to social and religious groups. And it will give close to $20 billion to religious groups that claim to operate substance and mental health service programs. Religious groups could also compete for $8 billion in housing grants. If this initiative makes it through the legislature, it will be a direct slap in the face of the First Amendment, which says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."

Since Sept. 11, Bush has been sounding more like a preacher giving a sermon than a president. The reverend C. Welton Gaddy, a Louisiana pastor and executive director of the Interfaith Alliance Foundation, told CNN that "This president is using general references ... and vocabulary that come straight out of a very particular religious tradition, which is evangelical Christianity." He went on to say that this doesn't reflect the broad range of religious views this country has.

Gaddy's right. When one religion is forced above others, it turns us away from being a free country. When guys like Bush, Boykin and Attorney General John Ashcroft use religion to determine policy decisions, the constitutional-based wall that has separated church and state since this country's inception starts to crumble. When the dust from that wall clears, we'll no longer be free.

Ryan Sabalow can be reached at opinioneditor@orion-online.net


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KEYWORDS: antichristianbigotry; proofreadthenpost; whithouse
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To: Mark Felton

Don't Allow Him to Edit Your Opinion


21 posted on 10/22/2003 5:20:40 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: AFPhys
"And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever." --Thomas Jefferson
22 posted on 10/22/2003 5:29:21 AM PDT by Mark Felton (All liberty flows from the barrel of a gun)
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To: Mark Felton
"terrorists hate the fact that ... we can worship Almighty God the way we see fit,"

Now how could the President have gotten such a twisted idea?

23 posted on 10/22/2003 5:31:40 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: Mark Felton
Aw its just a phase with many of these saps.

Wait till they grow up, start paying taxes, and then have a teenage son or daughter come home stone drunk back-talking trash.

They'll be conservatives, then.

24 posted on 10/22/2003 5:37:03 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: Mark Felton
The most dangerous force our country faces right now doesn't come from the threat of international terrorism. It comes from evangelical Christian fanatics connected to the White House, like Army Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin. ,

This moron put the whole country in a panic and on an alert, all because he doesn't like President Bush and General Boykin???

25 posted on 10/22/2003 5:41:14 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Hehe! I thought much the same thing when I read "...using our tax dollars..".
At that point, I just wanted to say, "Son, as a college parasite, you don't understand TAXES until you get into the real world."
26 posted on 10/22/2003 5:41:56 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Mark Felton
What little liberal chick is this mind of mush trying to impress?
27 posted on 10/22/2003 5:43:27 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Hillary's election to President will start a civil war)
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To: Mark Felton
I don't pray, I don't go to church, I don't know if God exists or not. Why do obsessed atheists like this article's author scare me a great deal more than "fanatic" Christians?
29 posted on 10/22/2003 5:47:19 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Mark Felton
This is typical Christian bashing, conservative bashing, military bashing and pure anti-Americanism, coming from extreme leftists, bound and determined to spread their multicultural education and political correctness from sea to shining sea.

Enough already!

30 posted on 10/22/2003 5:49:30 AM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: Mark Felton
If you really want to make Ryan Sabadow mad (and perhaps do some real good), don't write him a letter exposing his hatred, bigotry and un-American ideas.

Instead, write him a letter and let him know you are praying for him.

31 posted on 10/22/2003 5:52:55 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: Mark Felton
According to Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the Bush administration plans on creating a "faith based" initiative that could funnel large sums of public funds to religious social services.

Just goes to show how ignorant of the facts these people really are...this plan was put in place in 1996 under Clinton, Bush is just encouraging more participation:

"Section 104 of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (P.L. 104-193), the so-called "Charitable Choice" provision, specifically addresses the use of contracts, vouchers and other funding to arrange for "charitable, religious or private organizations" to provide services under Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income and Food Stamps (and has been interpreted as applying to certain other programs as well). The statute also requires that religious organizations be permitted to receive such funding "on the same basis as any other non-governmental provider." In addition, the interim regulations for the new Welfare-to-Work Program explicitly permit faith-based organizations to apply for and receive competitive grants. Private Industry Councils and other entities administering the formula Welfare-to-Work grants are required to coordinate those activities with faith-based organizations."

And it IS constitutional under the guidelines:

Section 104 (the Charitable Choice provisions) of P.L. 104-193 includes various protections for both religious organizations and welfare recipients in an attempt to find a balance between the rights and religious liberties of both parties. Any state or local welfare agency considering a financial arrangement with a religious organization for welfare or certain relatedprograms must follow the requirements of Section 104, which include arranging for alternative providers if welfare recipients request them and not discriminating against religious organizations in contracting procedures.

The Center for Public Justice and the Christian Legal Society have published a brief guide of the statutory provisions. It holds that Section 104 is constitutional and offers guidance to both government agencies and congregations on complying with the law.

Source

The guideline can be found at:

Center for Public Justice

Charitable Choice rests on the constitutional concept that government must not discriminate against religion when it carries out its programs and interacts with nongovernmental groups.

Center for Public Justice

33 posted on 10/22/2003 6:06:00 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: jimt
Faith based initiatives" is lunacy - and unconstitutional.

Sorry, but you are wrong...see my post #33.

34 posted on 10/22/2003 6:11:09 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Mark Felton
Yeah. Keep all those Christians like George Washington, James Madison, John Adams, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, etc. etc. oout of the White House.

35 posted on 10/22/2003 6:14:11 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Mark Felton
I thought about replying to him or posting a comment, but an admonishment came to mind that I once heard from a very wise person: "It is a waste of time to trade spit with a jackass."
36 posted on 10/22/2003 6:15:31 AM PDT by VRWCmember (We apologise for the fault in the taglines. Those responsible have been sacked.)
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To: jimt
Jeez, just look what happened when they accepted tax exempt status!
37 posted on 10/22/2003 6:17:33 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Mark Felton
I don't remember any loud whining from the left when Jimmah, while occupying the WH, consulted God in all his decision making, even consulted his daughter. We all know Roselyn had her two cents in there. No groans when he confessed he lusted once upon a time. Jimmah talked about and to God all the time while the liberal left smiled and nodded yes. OK for a Dem in the WH, but not, definately not, for a Republican Pesident.
38 posted on 10/22/2003 6:19:32 AM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: jimt
Bush needs to be stripping money away from NGOs and defunding federal giveaways, not adding more.

Perhaps, but if reducing the RATE of GROWTH of these programs is successfully mischaracterized as draconian cuts by the democrats and their fawning media, that isn't a feasible goal right now. The next best thing is to eliminate the prohibition on religious organizations from competing for those funds, especially since religious organizations typically deliver the services much more efficiently than organizations such as the united way, etc.

39 posted on 10/22/2003 6:20:28 AM PDT by VRWCmember (We apologise for the fault in the taglines. Those responsible have been sacked.)
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To: Mark Felton
>>>>>KEEP GOD OUT OF WHITHOUSE

I'm sure it was the college newspaper rather than the poster who misspelled the title.

The Establishment Clause is easily the most misused portion of The Constitution. Rather than using it to mandate religious freedom, it is used instead to mandate aetheism. It is a legal bludgeon, usually wielded to silence political opponents of the wielder, who also happen to mention their religious beliefs, as the source informing their political opinions.

How letting the AFLCIO bully and intimidate on behalf of their slate of political candidates or positions is somehow morally different than letting The Christian Coalition do the same goes eternally unanswered by these hypocritical, anti-Conservative hate mongers.

An even more perplexing question revolves around why The Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which invokes God at least twice per paragraph, also gets walked and sent to first base when it participates in political advocacy.

The modern usage of The Establishment Clause is an utter perversion of the First Amendment. It takes the freedom of speech law and uses it as a roll of duct tape to silence the mouths that liberal intrest groups have no desire to hear speaking.
40 posted on 10/22/2003 6:24:39 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (The September 11th attacks were clearly Clinton's most consequential legacy. - Rich Lowry)
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