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Historian hired by NY Times says 1932 Pulitzer Prize should be rescinded
Associated Press ^ | 10-22-03 | SARA KUGLER

Posted on 10/22/2003 2:11:35 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:44:30 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

NEW YORK (AP) -- A 1932 Pulitzer Prize awarded to The New York Times should be revoked, according to a historian hired by the newspaper to review the winning work, which has been questioned for years.

A subcommittee of the Pulitzer Board has been reviewing the prize won by writer Walter Duranty for his series on Russia. The review was sparked by complaints that Duranty deliberately ignored in later coverage the forced famine in the Ukraine that killed millions of people.


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1 posted on 10/22/2003 2:11:36 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
About time.
2 posted on 10/22/2003 2:18:46 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (I've already given up on the Red Sox in 2004, just to save time)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I wonder if Mark Von Hagen could be the son of Victor von Hagen the well known explorer and author active in the 1940-1965 time frame? He was the author of a number of excellent 'popular' but learned summaries such as 'Aztec Man and Tribe' and "Kingdoms of the Sun, the Predecessors to the Incas".
3 posted on 10/22/2003 2:19:55 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
Way past time.
4 posted on 10/22/2003 2:20:00 PM PDT by RKV
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
YEE-HAW!!!!!

Who says there's no good news, anymore?

This is definitely 'fit to print'.

5 posted on 10/22/2003 2:20:00 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Duranty knew of the famine, but ignored the atrocities to preserve his access to Stalin
Not a direct quote, but does sound familiar, doesn't it?
BTW, Pulitzer was a yellow journalist himself, so he'd be proud.
6 posted on 10/22/2003 2:20:52 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (This tagline for sell.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Printing lies then. Printing lies now. Some things never change.
7 posted on 10/22/2003 2:22:27 PM PDT by catpuppy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There is no liberal bias in the press.

Uncle Joe

8 posted on 10/22/2003 2:22:40 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It would be better to place that series online for our perusal.

Let us decide.

The NYTimes couldn't withstand the scrutiny.
9 posted on 10/22/2003 2:24:44 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
More vindication of Ann Coulter's perspective on the treasonous history of liberals and 'Rats.
10 posted on 10/22/2003 2:24:48 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Duranty's portrait still hangs in the New York Times building along side other Pulitzer winners. Pretty sad that Russia has come to terms with their past and the leftists in this country still haven't.
11 posted on 10/22/2003 2:26:04 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Von Hagen's report said Duranty, as a reporter, "fell under Stalin's spell."

Just like CNN withheld the actualities of Iraq from being told so they could keep in Hussein's good graces.

It's for certain that the New York Times would never say anything bad about any communist country. Look how they bow and scrape to Castro's Cuba.

12 posted on 10/22/2003 2:31:19 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I'd go against the grain here and say I think it should not be revoked.

The fact that the prize was awarded, whether it was deserved or not, reflects the spirit and sense of the times. It also enunciates any particular biases that existed. It is a historical event that we can learn from.
13 posted on 10/22/2003 2:39:43 PM PDT by djf
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I recently got a copy of the recent book The Trust about the Ochs-Sulzberger family that owns the NY Times. Walter Duranty's name does not appear in the index!

According to Thomas Fleming's recent book The Illusion of Victory on Woodrow Wilson and World War One, one of the earliest Pulitzer Prizes was given to a reporter on the NY World (Pulitzer's paper) for a fictitious interview he claimed to have conducted with the stroke-incapacitated Woodrow Wilson.

14 posted on 10/22/2003 2:43:53 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
INTREP
15 posted on 10/22/2003 2:44:38 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Joe Stalin is Hollywood Ed Asner's hero ... According to a World Net Daily article of Oct 10th ...

Here is some text from that article ...

"Mr. Asner, I do have a question – unrelated to the film," I said. "In your long and distinguished acting career, going back to your earliest days in Chicago all the way up to present days working with Will Farrell on 'Elf', you have had the chance to do almost anything you could ever wish to do. But if you had the chance to play the biographical story of a historical figure you respected most over your lifetime, who would it be?"

Remembering the sad story he had told about the poor kids in Chicago, I half expected him to come out with a political name of some sort.

"I think Joe Stalin was a guy that was hugely misunderstood," said Asner. "And to this day, I don't think I have ever seen an adequate job done of telling the story of Joe Stalin, so I guess my answer would have to be Joe Stalin."

16 posted on 10/22/2003 2:48:47 PM PDT by thinktwice ("... to be evil, means to be unfit for existence." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: thinktwice
"I think Joe Stalin was a guy that was hugely misunderstood," said Asner. "And to this day, I don't think I have ever seen an adequate job done of telling the story of Joe Stalin, so I guess my answer would have to be Joe Stalin."

What would happen to somebody who said that about Hitler (who killed fewer people than Stalin)?

17 posted on 10/22/2003 2:55:01 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Pulitzer Being Reviewed, Fabrications Cited
By Jayson Blair

Sig Gissler, administrator of the Pulitzer Prizes, stared down at his hands behind his antique mahogany desk. "This is a matter under internal review," said Gissler about the 2003 prize, "but you could have gone to Iraq and apologized for Saddam Hussein and we wouldn't be in this mess." This reporter said nothing, having been sent here to collect facts but anticipating the inevitable charges of conflict of interest, yet still hoping to influence the 2004 prize.

"Why the heck did they send you here anyway? You got your damn prize, why can't you just leave me alone?" His voice was starting to get shrill. His hands, now on his desk, were trembling. "I got a wife and two kids to think about. I got my life ahead of me. I just renewed my club membership". Mr. Gissler started to cry softly. An akward silence fell in the room, lasting about a minute. Mr. Gissler reached for his desk drawer, opened it to reveal a gun case. He paused...

18 posted on 10/22/2003 2:57:24 PM PDT by palmer (The preceding post is not harassment)
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To: Burkeman1
The Leftists/Democrats are only sad that The Revolution happened to such a backward country full of such stupid churls. They are absolutely convinced that, if only They, the Rightful Leaders of the Masses, have the chance, they will show the sub-human Slavs how a True Communist State should be run. If only California didn't have so many Obstructionists...
19 posted on 10/22/2003 3:05:11 PM PDT by jonascord (Don't bother to run, you'll only die tired...)
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To: jonascord
True. The Leftist history is full of "if only" and "what if" excuses.
20 posted on 10/22/2003 3:07:40 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: jonascord
Wasn't there a Communist state in part of Germany for around 40 years?
21 posted on 10/22/2003 3:08:17 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: nightdriver
Just like CNN withheld the actualities of Iraq from being told so they could keep in Hussein's good graces.

And don't forget the fluff pieces that come out of CNN's Havana Bureau.

22 posted on 10/22/2003 3:14:03 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Every award the Times has ever received, with the exception of the coveted Charmin Medal, should be returned.
23 posted on 10/22/2003 3:16:08 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Von Hagen is at Columbia, so he must have been hired by History Dept chair Eric Foner and Columbia Provost Alan Brinkley (the late David Brinkley's son). Both Foner and Brinkley are way to the left, although I suppose there are some screaming lefties a bit to the left of them out there somewhere.

So Sulzberger went to the most accomodating and sympathetic academics he could find and he still got bad news about Duranty's Pulitzer. Looks like the jig is finally up with that fraudulent award.

24 posted on 10/22/2003 3:16:35 PM PDT by beckett
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"For the sake of The New York Times' honor, they should take the prize away," von Hagen said in an interview Wednesday with The Associated Press. The New York Sun first reported the professor's recommendation.

You can't try to restore something the Times has never had...

25 posted on 10/22/2003 3:19:28 PM PDT by NorCoGOP (Appeasement of Evil Empowers Oppression)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The effort was timed to coincide with the 70th anniversary of the 1932-33 famine, which claimed as many as 7 million Ukrainian lives. Josef Stalin's regime created the famine to force Ukrainian peasants into surrendering their land
Shilling for pinkos and reds since its beginning, The New York Times continues to live up to its legacy.
26 posted on 10/22/2003 3:20:33 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: aristeides
If The Germans had been allowed to Guide the Revolution, instead of being a Client State, it would have worked. After all, Marx was German...

No excuse is too lame for socialists.

27 posted on 10/22/2003 3:22:39 PM PDT by jonascord (Don't bother to run, you'll only die tired...)
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To: george wythe
I have a copy of the issue of the NY Times reporting the firing on Fort Sumter. At that time (before the Ochs-Sulzberger family had taken the paper over,) the paper was shilling for the Union, rather than reds.
28 posted on 10/22/2003 3:23:01 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: jonascord
They are absolutely convinced that, if only They, the Rightful Leaders of the Masses, have the chance, they will show the sub-human Slavs how a True Communist State should be run.

You're quoting my college professors when I had to endured subjects such as sociology, philosophy, English lit, political science, American history, Western Civ, etc

29 posted on 10/22/2003 3:24:35 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
IIRC, Rigoberto Menchu won the Nobel Prize for literature mostly on the strength of her fanciful (IOW, fraudulent) account of her oppression as a third-world feminist and communist struggling for dignity and life in the Reagan-dominated 1980s. Even after her book was exposed as one long, lugubrious lie, the committee excused and defended her. Does the Pulitzer committee have more integrity than the Nobel committee? That remains to be seen.
30 posted on 10/22/2003 3:24:50 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: nightdriver
Just like CNN withheld the actualities of Iraq from being told so they could keep in Hussein's good graces.

That was my take as well. The old gray whore sure has been going through a bad patch lately.

31 posted on 10/22/2003 3:26:14 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
NY Crime's fawning Stalin obituary
32 posted on 10/22/2003 3:27:08 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: beckett
Both Foner and Brinkley are way to the left, although I suppose there are some screaming lefties a bit to the left of them out there somewhere. So Sulzberger went to the most accomodating and sympathetic academics he could find and he still got bad news about Duranty's Pulitzer. Looks like the jig is finally up with that fraudulent award.

Good Point... :)

33 posted on 10/22/2003 3:27:30 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: aristeides
Interesting historical tidbit. I guess since New York was part of the Union, that much was expected.
34 posted on 10/22/2003 3:27:33 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: thinktwice; aristeides
The WND author of that piece, Kevin McCulloough, issued a "partial retraction" (scroll to the bottom) a day or two later. The quote is inaccurate. Asner's actual quote, which can be found at the link, was not sympathetic to Stalin and only suggested that, from the standpoint of a physical resemblance, he (Asner) would be suited to play the part of Stalin in a film.
35 posted on 10/22/2003 3:28:03 PM PDT by beckett
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
WOW! D'ya think!

36 posted on 10/22/2003 3:30:42 PM PDT by IGOTMINE (He needed killin')
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To: george wythe


37 posted on 10/22/2003 3:32:55 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: beckett
The WND author....play the part of Stalin in a film.

Point taken...but, IMHO...Ed Asner is still a Anti-American Leftist...pining for the good old days.

38 posted on 10/22/2003 3:37:31 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: jimbo123
Bird cage liner material, for sure. Thanks for the link, Jimbo.
39 posted on 10/22/2003 3:41:00 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: george wythe
The softer and more excused from harsh reality a subject is, the more likely that it's teachers are leftist, effeminate, social thugs. Greens are perhaps the worst, since they KNOW, with a conviction that the Pope could envy, that if only they could get rid of people, Nature would take care of itself. Greens being Gods, human extinction is not a worry.

Sometimes I want to walk onto a campus with a Ma Deuce, and hit everyone with a grey beard...

40 posted on 10/22/2003 3:41:08 PM PDT by jonascord (Don't bother to run, you'll only die tired...)
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To: skinkinthegrass
oint taken...but, IMHO...Ed Asner is still a Anti-American Leftist...pining for the good old days.

He most certainly is an anti-American leftist pining for the good ol' days of the Soviet Union. No quarrel from me there. I would even go so dar as to say that he would welcome a script that tried to portray Stalin in as favorable a light as possible.

But McCullough in his original commentary said he asked Asner, "Who do you respect, etc...?" In fact McCullough never mentioned "respect" in the actual question to Asner, so it is unfair to infer from that interview that Asner "respects" Stalin.

That was my point in posting the correction.

42 posted on 10/22/2003 3:49:29 PM PDT by beckett
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Duranty knew of the famine but ignored the atrocities to preserve his access to Stalin.

CNN's Eason Jordan is today's Duranty.

The Libs are mother-fuQkers.
43 posted on 10/22/2003 3:59:58 PM PDT by Stallone (Warrior Freepers Rule The Earth)
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To: george wythe
When I said "shilling," I meant "shilling." That particular issue of the NY Times was extremely critical of either the NY Herald or the NY Tribune -- I forget which -- whichever one Horace Greeley was not at -- for not being sufficiently pro-Union. The NY Times was much more pro-Union than it needed to be.
44 posted on 10/22/2003 4:23:18 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: beckett
Thanks. Robert Duvall, as I recall, did a very good job of portraying Stalin.
45 posted on 10/22/2003 4:24:20 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: jimbo123
Chicago papers have to stop printing the Truth! Why is it that Chicago papers are really the best in the country for the truth? They were right on when they printed the "rainbow" leak from FDR's war planners on how they intended to invade and occupy Germany on December 4th 1941. And they were right in questioning what FDR knew and when he knew it about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
46 posted on 10/22/2003 4:32:22 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: Burkeman1
Here's the full story from the Chicago American including photos. Remember, the Duranty and his NY Times enablers poopooed this report.

http://www.faminegenocide.com/chicago1.html

http://www.faminegenocide.com/chicago2.html
47 posted on 10/22/2003 4:37:05 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
Great links. Thanks!
48 posted on 10/22/2003 4:40:27 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: jimbo123
Good post. Here's an excerpt from the NYT obituary:

But those who survived the purges hailed Stalin as a supreme genius.

Imagine that!

49 posted on 10/22/2003 4:40:56 PM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"...serious lack of balance in his (NYT's) writing..."

The great gray lady has always been "red"...no surprises here.
50 posted on 10/22/2003 4:41:17 PM PDT by Mustang (Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
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