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Muslim leader with D.C. ties indicted
MSNBC ^ | October 24, 2003 | Lisa Myers and the NBC Investigative Team

Posted on 10/24/2003 9:17:07 PM PDT by tomball

....... " Abdurahman Alamoudi, a consultant to the Pentagon on the chaplain program for more than a decade, is now accused of helping Osama bin Laden and Hamas.  Court documents filed late Wednesday night claim Alamoudi has provided “financial support to Hamas” and “financial support to fronts for al-Qaida.”   One of the groups allegedly tied to Alamoudi is a charity that gave a Virginia post office as its address. Alamoudi was the charity’s vice president. Who founded it? Abdullah bin Laden, Osama bin Laden’s nephew.
 

Also ringing alarms: Alamoudi’s Palm Pilot, which the government claims included the names and numbers of six designated global terrorists.  Terrorism expert and NBC News analyst Steve Emerson said, “The public face of Mr. Alamoudi was 180 degrees different from the private face. And the private face clearly showed that he was involved or directed fund-raising for Hamas, fund-raising for other terrorist groups.”

The government also alleges Alamoudi had a Swiss bank account and $2.2 million in unreported income, on which he failed to pay taxes.  Thursday, Alamoudi’s lawyer said he never supported any terrorist group and that Osama bin Laden has dozens of nephews who have nothing to do with al-Qaida.  Yet, in an audiotape of a conversation obtained by NBC News, Alamoudi seems to embrace violence and suggests al-Qaida should choose better targets: (Translated) “I prefer to hit a Zionist target in America or Europe or elsewhere.”   Alamoudi’s lawyer said her client doesn’t remember saying such a thing and questioned the tape’s authenticity.
 

FAMILIAR FACE IN WASHINGTON
 

Over the years, Alamoudi has been a familiar face in Washington.
* The Pentagon chose him to help select Muslim chaplains.
* He met with President Clinton.
* Made six trips to Muslim nations as a goodwill ambassador for the State Department.
* Met with presidential candidate George W. Bush.
* Last year, FBI Director Robert Mueller even spoke to an organization founded by Alamoudi, over the objections of some agents. " ......

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alamoudi; alqaeda; chaplain; enemywithin; hamas; jihadinamerica; osamabinladen
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To: Allan
"In Florida Moslems voted for Bush by a factor of 20 to 1."

So, 1 outta every 21 Floridian Muslims was an IslamicRadicalTerrorist supporter of Slick Willie...I see the connection now.

Thanks fer sharing...MUD

41 posted on 10/24/2003 10:55:02 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: sarasmom
"got links?"

Sure:

http://www.thetruereligion.org/terror.htm

You can find dozens of similar ones. Terrorism, ANY form of suicide, and the murder of innocents (non-combatants) is clearly and resoundingly condemned.
42 posted on 10/24/2003 10:55:15 PM PDT by JohnnyBravo
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To: Stopislamnow
"There are no moderate muslims."

That simply ain't true...not sure what yer gonna accomplish with that t-shirt.

FReegards...MUD

43 posted on 10/24/2003 11:00:11 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Allan; aristeides
I've got to find my notes. They were talking about this Thursday night on one of the cable news stations and this guy mentioned that Grover Norquist was Newt Gingrich's guy.
44 posted on 10/24/2003 11:01:06 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: JohnnyBravo
You can find dozens of similar ones.

I'm sure you can.
Doesn't mean the other hand doesn't have a knife in it.
Study the Faridah and get back to me.
45 posted on 10/24/2003 11:07:35 PM PDT by tet68 (multiculturalism is an ideological academic fantasy maintained in obvious bad faith. M. Thompson)
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To: JohnnyBravo; All
By the Wahabbi sect too? They condemn killing?

Wednesday 15/5/2002

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Interview with John Loftus from March 15, 2002

Saudis in the USA

Summary:

In America, allegations have surfaced that intelligence agencies are turning a blind eye to terrorist funding on US soil.

Stephen Crittenden: You may remember a book published a few years back called Ratlines, about the role played by the Catholic Church in spiriting Nazi war criminals out of Europe after the Second World War. It was co-authored by former ABC journalist Mark Aarons and John Loftus.

As well as being the author of several books, John Loftus is a former Federal prosecutor, and a longtime lawyer for whistleblowers in the American intelligence community.

He’s just filed an extremely unusual lawsuit in Florida, in an effort to prove that the Saudi government was laundering money through a group of charities in the United States, which was then used to fund the terrorist activities of Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and Al-Quaeda.

He says a Federal investigation was closed down in 1995 in order not to embarrass the Saudi government.

John Loftus is speaking from his home in St Petersburg, Florida.

John Loftus: The money originated in Saudi Arabia with wealthy businessmen close to the Saudi royal family. It went through Switzerland and was deposited in a series of four charities in Herndon, Virginia. Those charities in turn then distributed to a Florida charity, a Texas charity and a Chicago charity. The Florida charity was the most significant, because it funnelled money to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. This organisation not only kills Jews, they kill Palestinians who dare to collaborate with Jews. This is a secret part of Saudi foreign policy, because they really wanted to block the creation of the first Arab democratic state. Every time they saw the Israelis and the Palestinians getting close in peace talks, the Saudis would pour more money through their murder-for-hire network, and more hitmen would go out to take out the Palestinians that wanted to work for peace.

Stephen Crittenden: John, what is the evidence precisely?

John Loftus: Well, some staggering evidence. The chief money launderer is a professor named Sami al-Arian, He was actually cheeky enough to take home movies of all his terrorist conventions, and the FBI seized Sami’s home movies and I have copies. I’m going to be putting them up on my website www.john-loftus.com so people can see for themselves exactly what the evidence is.

Stephen Crittenden: I don’t quite understand what the connection is with a group of charities in the United States, given that the key organisations that you say were being funded were organisations active in the Middle East.

John Loftus: Well the United States was actually worthwhile for two purposes: first, because the US is ridiculously easy to get a visa to enter this country; and second, we actually gave the Saudis tax deductions for terrorism.

Stephen Crittenden: What kind of tax deductions?

John Loftus: The United States income tax deductions. The Saudi charities in Virginia were filing Form 990s with our Internal Revenue Service, and they were actually claiming this was charitable work, so it was all tax deductible.

Stephen Crittenden: Have you uncovered any evidence of funds going to Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden – and in particular, funds to that organisation for its work in the United States?

John Loftus: Certainly funds to Al-Qaeda. In fact the Virginia charities, the Saudi charities, paid for Osama bin Laden’s satellite telephone equipment, and it was a member of the Florida charity who hand-carried to Afghanistan. So there’s a direct link there. As to distribution to other ones, it seems the Saudis have been funding a series of radical right-wing groups in this country for years as well as subsidising Islamic education that have gradually radicalised the mosques in this country.

Stephen Crittenden: Indeed, this is where the religious element in this story comes in. There’s a lot of evidence, it’s well known, that Saudi money has been used to fund radical Wahabbi-style Islam all over the world to build mosques and schools and so forth in America.

John Loftus: Not just in America. We found there’s some evidence of it in Asia, Canada and in Europe. The idea was the Saudis would underwrite the costs of the mosques and over a period of time they would get to have a say in who was the Imam, who was the clerical leader. Now most people don’t realise, but only the Saudis and the Taliban practiced this weird cult known as the Wahabbis. It dates back to the 1730s, and it was really a heresy. So between 1730 and 1900 most of the Muslim clerics had issued over 60 fatwas, condemning the Wahabbi cult as heresy.

Stephen Crittenden: And gradually through the 20th century it gained a new kind of foothold.

John Loftus: Well see, some of our American bankers wanted to get a foothold in Arabian oil and the British were keeping us out, so they hired a group of private thugs. They hired the Saudi tribe which were Wahibbi extremists, and we gave them guns and put them in power, and the first thing they did was to sign an oil contract with Aramco, the Arab American Oil Company. So we actually back in the 1920s, funded this extremist group and brought them to power, and the leader of the Wahabbi sect, Ibn Saud, named the kingdom after himself. That’s how Saudi Arabia was born.

Stephen Crittenden: Tell us more about the Saudi charitable network in the United States.

John Loftus: The International Institute for Islamic Thought seems to be a research study that will fund other research. For example, Professor Al-Arian was employed as a computing professor at the University of South Florida and he had this local group called WISE, the World Islamic Studies Enterprise. Now WISE was set up because Sami was inviting terrorists from all over the world to attend an academic conference. And if you come in for an academic conference, we don’t check the visas too closely. So he was bringing in people from every stripe of terrorist organisation. And then filming them, with his own video camera, discussing their plans for the evolution of terrorism. The stuff is absolutely shocking. So all this time the University of South Florida is lending its good name to a terrorist group.

Stephen Crittenden: Your lawsuit as I understand it is intended to illustrate that the US authorities, I mean the intelligence community, the FBI, the CIA, have investigated all of this, but the investigation has been closed down in order not to embarrass the Saudi government.

John Loftus: That was the bottom line. In 1995 the FBI raided the University of South Florida, they seized Sami’s videotape collection, his letter saying ‘We’re almost complete in our merger with Hamas’, on and on and on. A ton of evidence. And the decision was made in Washington – under pressure from our State Department – to drop the case because we didn’t want to embarrass the Saudis. People were utterly astounded when I filed this lawsuit, but just last Friday we had an FBI agent himself file a lawsuit in Chicago, saying that he had tried to investigate terrorist groups in the US and was told to stop it because it would embarrass the Saudis. So now we have two lawsuits going, alleging a major cover-up by the US government.

Stephen Crittenden: Your argument also seems to hinge on the idea that the Saudis were effectively stabbing the Palestinians in the back, that they didn’t want peace with Israel under any circumstances.

John Loftus: That’s very true.

Stephen Crittenden: What evidence do you have for that?

John Loftus: Well apart from King Saud saying things like, ‘Next to the Jews we hate the Palestinians the most’, the historical evidence is very clear. The Palestinian Islamic Jihad was funded from this Florida charity, the Florida charity concedes it got most of its money from the Saudis, and the Islamic Jihad is on record as being the group that goes around killing Palestinians, and they want to overthrow Arafat.

Stephen Crittenden: Well where in this picture that you’re constructing does Yasser Arafat sit?

John Loftus: Oh he’s a target on both sides. In one sense, Arafat works for the Saudis, they pay him off as well, I mean he’s corrupt, he’s stealing 20% of the Palestinian authority budget, so the poor Palestinian people are being oppressed from above by Arafat. And then from below they have an Islamic Jihad terrorist kill anyone that wants to work with Israel for peace. See, whatever harm the Israelis may have done, they did one great thing: they put all the Arab kids in school. The literacy rate among Arab kids in Israel is 97%, it’s the highest in the Arab world, and for the first time in 300 years we have an entire Arab class that’s been exposed to literacy, democracy, Western values, Western business practices – and this is a cancer in Arab society. Whenever the first Arab nation becomes a democracy, there’ll be a domino effect, all the other Arab nations will start clamouring for democracy as well.

Stephen Crittenden: One of the questions that’s raised in my mind by the kind of allegations you’re making, is the extent to which George W. Bush’s talk about the “axis of evil” and the attention that’s being paid to Iraq and Iran, how much of that is also designed not to embarrass the Saudis – if you like, to deflect attention away from them?

John Loftus: Well the idea is that the Saudis got caught with their fingers in the cookie jar, there’s absolutely dramatic evidence of them laundering money to terrorist groups through charities in the US. So now we’re using that information to twist the Saudis’ arm, to put pressure on the other Arab States, hopefully to move the peace process along to really get a sincere reform movement. The problem is Crown Prince Abdullah, the heir to the throne. Most of his political base comes from the southern half of Saudi Arabia, where the Wahabbi clans are at their strongest. That’s where 15 of the 19 skyjackers came from. And Abdullah is the moving force, we believe, behind this funding of the terrorist networks worldwide.

Stephen Crittenden: Well how do you explain then the kind of pacifist language from Crown Prince Abdullah in the post-September 11 period, the kind of thing that’s been quoted so extensively by Thomas Friedman in his editorials in The New York Times?

John Loftus: Well I think the Saudis have always been two-faced about this. They have some of the best public relations facilities in the world, they have major investments in a large number of television networks.

Stephen Crittenden: So Thomas Friedman’s just a fall guy?

John Loftus: He’s a fall guy for the Saudis. I mean that plan, the identical plan that was floated by Friedman was one that had been rejected by the Arab conferences back in ’81. There’s nothing new about it.

Stephen Crittenden: But isn’t it back on the table again?

John Loftus: Yes – with significant changes. The Saudis have dropped their demand for a complete right of return, they’ve offered to negotiate the boundaries in Jerusalem so at least the Jews will be able to go to the Wailing Wall and pray. But one has to be a little bit leery of Prince Abdullah’s promises. The Saudi newspapers once again are reporting that the mosque sermons are calling for the destruction of Israel and the killing of all Jews. So much for his promise not to incite anti-Semitic broadcasts, I mean that didn’t last very long.

Stephen Crittenden: Can we just come back to the court case finally? Do you expect to succeed in any way?

John Loftus: Yes. In about 30 days we should have Professor Sami Al-Arian and the defendant in my lawsuit before a court deposition under oath. He will have to testify about his connections with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, with Saudi funding of terrorism, where the money was going.

Guests on this program:

John Loftus
Author and US attorney

Further information:

John Loftus' website
http://www.john-loftus.com

As a former Justice Department prosecutor, John Loftus once held some of the highest security clearances in the world, with special access to NATO Cosmic, CIA codeword, and Top Secret Nuclear files. As a private attorney, he works without charge to help hundreds of intelligence agents obtain lawful permission to declassify and publish the hidden secrets of our times. He is the author of four history books, three of which have been made into films, two were international best sellers, and one was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize.

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John's nightly comments on current events, "The Loftus Report" can be heard on ABC National Radio, the Batchelor and Alexander Show at 10:35 EST each weeknight. Internet access obtained through WABCRadio.com

46 posted on 10/24/2003 11:09:56 PM PDT by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: Lady Heron; JohnnyBravo
"Muslims"
(To be sung to the Rolling Stones' "Angie")

Muslims...my FRiends...
When will yer Jihad disappear?!
Arabs...my bro's...
Help tell them zealots, "NEVER HERE!!"
With good Allah in their souls...
Saudi money...EVIL goals!!
Please explain why them folks died!!
But Muslims...my FRiends...
'Twas fer FReedom them Sheeple died!!

Allah...is innocent...yeah...
Koran's Right...put HATE aside!!
Muslims...we'll still love ya...
Lord Allah ain't fer gen-o-cide!!
All Left's dreams they were so close...
But they all went up in smoke!!
Let me whisper in yer ear,
"Osama...bin Laden...YOU SHALL JOIN ALLAH THIS YEAR!!!"

(Haunting keyboard solo)

So...daughter(s), gently sleep...
Fer yer future(s) Daddy(Right does) FReep!!
Avenge bin Laden's shameless crimes!!
And my son...Jakob, ain't no way I'll say "Goodbye!"

'Cuz there's lovin' in our souls...
And there's Honor in our goals!!
Fer yer FReedom we shall fight!!
'Cuz Muslims...FReepers love ya, baby...
Everywhere Left looks, they'll fear our Might!!
We won't let Lib'rals git their claws in you...
C'mon FReepers, join our fight!!
Allah...Allah...ain't it good to be alive?!
Muslims...my FRiends...you can't say MUD never tried...

FReegards...MUD
47 posted on 10/24/2003 11:13:12 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: All
From the Citizen Soldier website, www.citizensoldier.org:

Grover Norquist: Conservative Exposed as Terrorist Sympathizer/Enabler

Sympathizer/Enabler

There's an incredible story brewing in Washington that is too hot for the networks to touch.

Grover Norquist, whom most conservatives know as Executive Director of the College Republicans, boardmember of the NRA, and head of Americans for Tax Reform, has been exposed as helping Muslim groups and individuals who finance and support Islamic terrorism gain access to the Bush White House.

Norquist has also been exposed as the founder of the Islamic Insitute, a group believed to be funded by foreign governments, Wahhab Islam elements in Saudi Arabia, and U.S. Muslim groups recently raided by a special Treasury Department task force for funding Al Qaeda and Palestinian terrorists. The Islamic Institute's website lists the following goals:

1. Cultivate and expand Muslim activists and mobilize the community at the state and federal levels on issues affecting the American Muslim community.

2. Provide a platform to promote an Islamic perspective on domestic issues (social and fiscal) to help enhance the Muslim community's input in the decision-making process.

3. Run aggressive campaigns at the state and federal levels on issues affecting the American Muslim community.

Wahhabi Islam funding from Saudi Arabia appears to have been instrumental is creating and and sustaining a large number of organizations involved in such troubling activities as:

1. Recruiting felons into Islam in U.S. prisons

2. Recruiting U.S. military personnel

3. Proselytizing on more than 500 college campuses across the United States

4. Covertly raising funds for terrorist groups through U.S.-based Muslim charities

5. Providing financial support - and gaining control - of 70-80 percent of U.S. mosques, and

6. Setting up private Muslim K-12 schools to indoctrinate U.S. Muslims into fundamentalist Islam (We ran an expose on one of these located just a few miles from our HQ which you can find at http://www.citizensoldier.org/madrassa.html.)

Norquist's relationship with Muslim groups that support terrorism became public after Norquist launched an unexpected and inexplicably vitriolic attack against Frank Gaffney, the President of the Center for Security Policy.

During a routine Conservative Political Action Conference meeting in early February, Gaffney participated in a panel discussion about the balance to be struck in time of war between preserving civil liberties and safeguarding American's lives and safety. Gafney expressed concern about one of the most insidious of the Wahhabis' activities, a concerted attempt to penetrate and influence the Executive and Legislative branch of our government.

Gafney noted that groups like the American Muslim Council (AMC) and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) have been able to gain access to the White House thanks to the White House's Associate Director of Cabinet Affairs Ali Tulbah, a Muslim, and his predecessor, Suhail Kahn. At the same time, Tulbah and Kahn have excluded moderate American Muslim groups from White House access. Both Tulbah and Kahn have family ties to extremist Wahhabi religious groups. AMC and CAIR have expressed support for Hamas, Hezbollah, and Al Qaeda and are actively campaigning to waterdown immigration controls, law enforcement, and intelligence gathering.

Gaffney's concerns are legitimate, because granting access to Muslim extremists gives them a chance to exercise undue influence over policy - undermining the war on terrorism - and confers a legitimacy that allows them to dominate the U.S. Islamic community.

Norquist responded to Gaffney's comments by calling Gaffney a racist and religious bigot in an appearance on Fox News Channel and in letters sent to the Washington Post and Washington Times and barring Gaffney from attending the most important meeting in Washington, the regular Wednesday meetings of conservative Capitol Hill aides and interest-group representatives held in Norquist's offices.

It is unclear whether the Muslims who have been acting as White House gatekeepers - Ali Tulbah and Suhail Kahn - were actually placed in that position by Grover Norquist's Islamic Institute. Norquist is credited with delivering the Muslim vote for Bush in the 2000 election and has the ear of the most influential man in Washington, Karl Rove, President Bush's political advisor. Rove has been a featured speaker at Norquist's Wednesday meetings.

Although it is not noted on either group's website, Norquist's Islamic Institute actually shares office space and staff with Americans for Tax Reform.

According to news reports, while Norquist served as founding Chairman of the Islamic Institute the group received seed money from Abdurahman Alamoudi, then a member of the left-wing American Muslim Council. MSNBC and Fox News have aired videotapes of Alamoudi standing in front of the White House, declaring his support for Hamas and Hezbollah. Hamas is currently one of the leading groups responsible for Palestinian suicide bombers. Hezbollah, sponsored by the Iranian government, was responsible for the death of 240 Marines in Beirut in the 1980s and is believed to be responsible for the attack on Khobar Towers, a barracks in Saudi Arabia.

Key members of the Islamic Institute have come from Alamoudi's organization. One has acknowledged making contributions to the Holy Land Foundation even after it's U.S. offices were shut down by the U.S. government for funding terrorists.

The AMC and CAIR have been able to get access to senior officials in the Bush Administration nine times since 9/11 despite the fact that CAIR has sued Attorney General Ashcroft and in June 2002 CAIR's executive director Nihad Awad declared that he supported the Hamas movement. Both groups have incessantly attacked President Bush's policies on Iraq, the monitoring of aliens from nations that sponsor terrorism, and the prosecution of suspected terror operatives. After the most recent meeting on January 16th, AMC's leader accused Bush of "calling on God to kill innocent Iraqi children."

Norquist also has ties to Sami Al-Arian, president of the National Committee to Protect Political Freedom (NCPPF). Al-Arian is under investigation by the FBI for being the leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad and was recently exposed by Fox's Bill O'Reilly who aired video tapes of Al-Arian raising money for terrorists. Norquist accepted an award from the NCPPF shortly before the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack. During the 2000 elections, Norquist introduced Al-Arian to then candidate Bush.

Since 9/11, Norquist has led opposition to domestic anti-terrorism laws and has been quoted in frontpage NY times articles allelging a wholesale loss of faith by conservatives in Attorney General Josh Ashcroft. Norquist has also attacked Daniel Pipes, Steve Emerson, and others who have attempted to alert Americans to the dangers of Islam.

WHAT WE CAN DO:

As Citizen Soldier members, most of you have read Koran and Hadith for yourselves. You know:

1. The god of Islam is not the God of the Bible,

2. That the moral rules of Koran differ significantly from Judeo-Christian moral rules, and since rights flow from the prohibitions of moral rules, Islam is not compatible with the equality, individual liberty, or limited government we enjoy in the U.S.

3. That the cause of Islamic terrorism are the ideas taught in Koran, that Muslim extremist groups like AMC and CAIR consistently try to deny these teachings and exploit the ignorance of moderate Muslims who do not know what Koran actually teaches and Westerners who are equally uninformed.

I would ask you to do these things:

1. Please tell others about this story - we'll leave it on our homepage over the weekend. I believe the reason the networks have not jumped on this story is that understanding what is going on would likely lead to a discussion of what Koran actually teaches, something the networks cannot do since they depend on access to moderate and extremist Muslim countries to produce their news.

2. Please call and send email to the White House, Frank Gaffney, and Grover Norquist, letting them know that you understand the dangers of Islam and are concerned about Norquist's involvement with groups that back terrorists.

The White House: (202) 456-1111 email:
president@whitehouse.gov (and also
vice.president@whitehouse.gov)

Frank Gaffney: (202) 835-9077 email:
info@centerforsecuritypolicy.org

Grover Norquist (202) 785-0266 (the receptionist who answers will also be the Islamic Institute's receptionist) email: friends@atr.org

3. Please contact your congressman and senators about this situation as well, since the Congress is another target for Muslims seeking to weaken U.S. policy. They're number is (202) 224-3121.

4. Please consider writing letters to the editor or contacting your local media outlets to encourage them to spill some ink on this story. The more people who know the truth the better.

5. Last, please add this to your long list of prayer concerns, that is our most effective tool.

Conservatives who have not read Koran are vulnerable to unholy alliances with Muslims because Koran and the Bible do share many moral rules, particularly relating to abortion, homosexuality, gambling, paganism and the occult, and prostitution, all issues that liberals and libertarians are pushing the envelope on today.

...............

With the arrest of Grover Norquist's friend and associate Sami Al-Arian as the U.S. head of Palestinian Islamic Jihad the natural question is how long has Norquist known that he was associated with terrorists. Here are some interesting links:

The Clinton administration may have known about Al-Arian as early as 1995. This article from April 2, 2002 (you'll get a page that says the article can't be found, just keep refreshing your browser until the article appears) says Clinton shut down federal investigations into Muslim charities in 1995. This led former federal prosecutor John Loftus to file a private lawsuit against the charities in Florida. The main target was Norquist's friend, Sami Al-Arian.

On June 22, 2000 Norquist received an award from the American Muslim Council in a program at which Sami Al-Arian was the keynote speaker. Al-Arian's topic was stopping the U.S. government from using profiling or intelligence data to catch terrorists.

Norquist's association with terrorist groups was the subject of this November 2001 article at The National Review. The article reveals that Norquist was CC'd on Sami Al-Arian's email to The Wall Street Journal responding to an article linking him to Islamic Jihad. Al-Arian was arrested today for being the North American leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The article also says Norquist placed Suhail Kahn in the Bush Administration as the official responsible for controlling access to the White House for Muslim groups. Suhail Kahn previously served on the board of Norquist's Islamic Institute, a group dedicated to increasing Muslim influence in U.S. policy-making.

This article from April 2002 shows that a primary goal of Muslim political influence in the U.S. is to weaken U.S. support for Israel. It quotes David Bonior (the Democrat congressman who represents the Michigan district with the highest concentration of Muslims in the U.S.) as saying accepting money from anti-Israel terrorist groups is no longer politically damaging and credits Norquist with helping to legitimize radical Muslim groups.

This article from February 20, 2003 denounces Norquist as responsible for introducing radical Muslim groups to the White House, Cabinet Secretaries, and agency heads and fingers Saudi money as the seed capital for Norquist's Islamic Institute (our article below shows how this was funneled through Saudi front groups like the American Muslim Council).

********* From the Center for Security Policy website, www.securitypolicy.org:

Headline Story | Saturday, October 25, 2003 Islamist 'enabler' threatens 'grave harm to Bush presidency,' Gaffney warns

prominent conservative leader who allegedly has used undeclared foreign money and top political connections to promote terrorist sympathizers is an 'enabler' who threatens 'to do grave harm to the Bush presidency.'

Center for Security Policy President Frank Gaffney issued the warning in a letter to Grover Norquist, founding chairman of the Islamic Institute, after Norquist publicly accused Gaffney of 'racism and bigotry' and banished him from a weekly strategy group. Norquist's actions came in response to Gaffney's criticism of a White House official who allowed pro-terrorist Muslim groups access to the White House complex on January 16.

'People who afford terrorist-supporters or -apologists and their organizations entree into the White House deserve to be both challenged and criticized,' Gaffney wrote in response. Norquist, an anti-tax activist and Washington networker who often purports to speak in the name of President Bush, told Gaffney in a widely distributed letter that the Center for Security Policy leader was guilty of 'racial prejudice, religous bigotry or ethnic hatred' because the criticized official is a Muslim.

In response, Gaffney and American Conservative Union leader David Keene slammed Norquist for 'employing "Stalinist tactics" against those who disagree with Mr. Norquist's role in brokering access to the Bush White House,' the Washington Times reported on February 7.

Norquist has been criticized for promoting what is called the Wahhabi lobby, a Saudi-funded network designed to dominate and radicalize Islam in America, at the expense of other Muslim groups whose stand against terrorism is unequivocal.

'Why have you gone to such lengths to defend - to say nothing of legitimize and advance the agendas of - terrorist sympathizers and others hostile to everything for which American conservatives stand?' Gaffney asked Norquist in a responding letter. Gaffney listed his concerns:

* The Islamic Institute, which Norquist co-founded and houses in his Americans for Tax Reform office, received seed money from an avowed supporter of Hezbollah, the terrorist group that killed 241 US Marines in a 1983 suicide bomb attack.

* The Islamic Institute reportedly is 'predominantly funded by foreign governments, shady Saudi sources, and US-based groups raided by the Treasury Department-led Operation Green Quest Task Force for allegedly funding suicide bombers, al Qaeda and other terrorists' activities.'

* Norquist led conservative opposition to parts of the Bush administration's anti-terrorism legislation, without disclosing that his Islamic group was dependent on such funds.

* Norquist has affiliated himself with the radical National Committee to Protect Political Freedom (NCPPF), from which he received an award shortly before the September 11, 2001 attacks, despite the group's thirty-year public track record of promoting domestic and international terrorism.

* Norquist reportedly introduced Sami Al-Arian, whom federal law enforcement officials say is a leader of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, to then-candidate George W. Bush during the 2000 campaign. Televised videotape shows Al-Arian raising money in the US for terrorists

There are many links in the above article .. just go to the Frank Gaffney's main link at The Center for Security Policy posted above.

48 posted on 10/24/2003 11:47:07 PM PDT by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: Lady Heron
"You need to study this religion before you make such false statements about islam. That is I am assuming that you are truely ignorant of what islam calls on its members to do and not a member of that same religion bent on misleading non-muslims about islam (which a muslim is allowed to do with non-muslims to entice into said religion). Islam is pure evil, period. Terrorism has not been repudiated by islamic scholars, because it is a major tenet of islam."

I have studied it, in depth. I've read the Koran cover to cover, and I've lived in the Middle East. Can you say the same (answer: an obvious no) A muslim is NEVER permitted to lie about islam to lure someone into the religion--where do you dream up such nonsense? You've got a computer--so use it.

http://thetruereligion.org/hijacking.htm

BTW: Sheik Ibn Baz is a very highly respected Islamic scholar, and his interpretations are very widely adhered to by mainstream muslims.

Took about 2 minutes to find using a std search. Suggest you do a little more reading on a topic-it'd save you from spouting off like an ignorant fool.

(Oh, and another btw: Like you, I'm not Muslim. Unlike you, I'm not totally ignorant of it though)
49 posted on 10/24/2003 11:48:24 PM PDT by JohnnyBravo
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To: tet68
You're obviously very misinformed. 'Jihad' does not constitute attacking non-muslims IN ANY WAY except in defense of one's self or one's property. 'Jihad' is resistance to non-islamic influences--jihad is not drinking when you'd like a drink (even of water, during ramadan), not looking at the scantily clad woman when you'd REALLY like to look, etc. It is NOT murder, terrorism, etc.

Suggest you read up on it.
50 posted on 10/24/2003 11:53:06 PM PDT by JohnnyBravo
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To: Allan; Fred Mertz; aristeides; Mitchell; TexKat; Howlin
"Salem bin Laden (older brother of Osama) and Khalid bin Mafouz (he and his son recently have been linked with terrorist financing) came over to Houston in 1974 to bail out Harkin Energy when George W. Bush was director there."

You are smoking some serious Internet-rumor weed.

"President Bush was born on July 6, 1946, in New Haven, Connecticut, and he grew up in Midland and Houston, Texas. He received a bachelor's degree from Yale University in 1968, then served as an F-102 fighter pilot in the Texas Air National Guard. President Bush received a Master of Business Administration from Harvard Business School in 1975. After graduating, he moved back to Midland and began a career in the energy business. After working on his father's successful 1988 presidential campaign, he assembled the group of partners that purchased the Texas Rangers baseball franchise in 1989.

He served as managing general partner of the Texas Rangers until he was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. He became the first Governor in Texas history to be elected to consecutive four-year terms when he was re-elected on November 3, 1998, with 68.6 percent of the vote."


51 posted on 10/24/2003 11:59:07 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Hilarious. You immediately assume I'm arab/islamic simply because I disabuse you of your own ignorance?

I was amazed when I went to the middle east at their ignorance of Christianity. I'm MORE amazed at the ignorance of Islam here.

Your idea that 'most' islamic clerics aid and abet terrorism is patently false and, again, ignorant. Terrorism has been and continues to be resoundingly condemned by the vast majority of clerics.

Into listing transgressions? How about the actions of the Israeli military in 'punitive' raids against civilians on a regular basis (sadly-it's simply a manifestation of their inability to deal with the issues that confront them--the continue to strike out in frustration and exacerbate the problem--both sides do) How continued agressive expansionism of Israel (take a look at a map of Israel circa their formation and compare it to a map today--gee, where did all that LAND come from? (hint: military action.)

It's really easy to spout the party line, it's a bit of a challenge to listen to both sides and make up your own mind, but it's the only way to and end to the 'troubles' in the ME.
52 posted on 10/25/2003 12:04:06 AM PDT by JohnnyBravo
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To: STARWISE
"It IS a radical, fundamentalist, America-hating MUSLIM that IS OUR ENEMY."

Finally, somebody is making sense. You're right. It's radical, fundamentalist, American hating Muslims that are the problem. They are, in fact, condemned by Islam. It's NOT Islam that is our enemy.

Oh, and I'm pretty comfortable with whos side I'm on. I've served this country in both civilian and military capacities my whole life, and and continue to do so.

In fact, I wouldn't be wasting my typing here if I wasn't strongly committed that knowing the truth of things is in our best interests as Americans.
53 posted on 10/25/2003 12:11:03 AM PDT by JohnnyBravo
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To: Lady Heron
Oklamhoma Federal Building==bombed==Christian Fundamentalist.

Inquisition==Christian Fundamentalist

Crusades=Christian Fundamentalist

I could go on for a bit, but using the Amish as typical of Christianity is so specious it's not worth more.
54 posted on 10/25/2003 12:15:46 AM PDT by JohnnyBravo
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To: Lady Heron
Assuming you're a Christian, I won't bother going through the old testament and extracting verses that are very, very similar--I'm sure you can find them. If you give it some thought, and are well intentioned, I'm sure you'll conclude that posting scriptures out of context, with and intent to misrepresent a religion, isn't very Christian.

One important point. If you'd ever care to learn a bit about what you talk about, I'd suggest you pay particular attention to the Koran's references to Christians and Jews. In Islam, both are 'people of Scriptures' and are clearly distinguished from an 'infidel' in the way you assume it's being used. (Infidel can mean someone who does not adhere to ONE faith or it can mean one who does not adhere to ANY faith.) Both Jews and Christians who adhere to their scriptures (as opposed to the hate talkers we see here who profess Christianity but are just practicing another form of ignorance) are respected and protected by Islam.
55 posted on 10/25/2003 12:30:03 AM PDT by JohnnyBravo
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To: Southack; Mitchell; aristeides; Fred Mertz
I'm sorry.
In order to provide a quick transcript
(from a rather bad tape)
I misreported what Craig Ungar said.

He said Mahfouz and the older Osama brother
first came to Houston as young men in 1974.

The bail-out of Harkin
of course
occurred at a much later date
during the first Bush administration.

Here is some more information about Mahfouz:

In a trillion dollar lawsuit filed by the victims families
one named Saudi defendant should rivet the nation's attention.
He is a know as the "banker of terror": Saudi, Kahlid bin Mahfouz.

Mahfouz is the banker and business partner to the Saudi royal family.
He is a brother-in-law of Osama Bin Laden and his banker as well.
Mahfouz funded Abul Nadel, Adnan Khasssoghi, was linked to the US Embassy bombings.
He and his sons fund a global charity front organization for Islamic terrorists.
Mahfouz was also the head of the BCCI banking scandal
that the first Bush administration was party to.

Mahfouz was a top advisor in the WDC Carlyle Group
He sat on the Middle East Policy committee with Dick Armitage and Frank Carlucci.
He recapitalized George W Bush's Harkin oil
and was a 17.6% stakeholder in it.
He capitalized Enron with Citigroup.

See also the following thread:

1990 deal mystery: Who bought Bush's shares in Harken?

56 posted on 10/25/2003 12:30:35 AM PDT by Allan
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To: All
To make sure all facts are straight:
Since I was working with an audio recording
I inadvertently mis-spelled Harken Energy Company
not to be confused of course with Iowa Senator Tom Harkin.
57 posted on 10/25/2003 12:38:37 AM PDT by Allan
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To: JohnnyBravo
When you're a target, when over 5,000+ people have already died at the hands of this rogue element of Islam (if all the rest are so peaceful and loving toward Christians and Jews, which I'm sure there are many -- but where's their voice?) .. the priority isn't understanding moderate Muslims ..wasting precious breath to reassure them that they are not the enemy .. it isn't a matter of understanding at all. And if you don't see the subterfuge, scams, deceits, and frauds that have been perpetrated on this country and on our very own government officials by evil Muslims masquerading as respectable, charitable and upstanding, peace-loving people, you're naive to the point of being ludicrous. And if you're in the military, you're an outcast. I know military members ... there is not one who would ever spend time making the dissertations you have to clarify the Koran for us. They are focused on THE MUSLIM ENEMY and destroying it.

Our sworn enemy isn't Christian ... our sworn enemy isn't Buddhist ... our evil enemy isn't Hindu .... our murdering, bombing enemy isn't Jewish ... we have ONE sworn enemy .. they are Muslim. Remember the threat of Ayman Zawahiri when he was imprisoned with his comrades a few years back?? They were all in a large cell together, and he was holding on to the bars. Remember what he was ferociously yelling out?? "We are Muslims!! We are Muslims!!" I'll never forget his prophetic, chilling words .. and the threat he issued as well.

The priority is killing these animals before they kill anymore of us .. the non-Muslim, America-loving and supporting people of the world. The time for wasting on understanding is over. THIS IS WAR! No Muslim who supports America and America need worry. Life changed for us all after 9/11 .. good Muslims included .. the hazards of unwarranted, devastating killing.

58 posted on 10/25/2003 1:07:49 AM PDT by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: JohnnyBravo
And you're conveniently forgetting that Terry Nichols had a Phillipino wife, and he flew to the Phillipines before the Oklahoma City bombing and allegedly met a member of a Phillipine terrorist cell that has links to Al-Quaeda.
59 posted on 10/25/2003 1:12:44 AM PDT by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: Allan; Betty Jo
Thanks for the summary. I have a feeling it would interest Betty Jo.
60 posted on 10/25/2003 7:54:39 AM PDT by aristeides
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