Returning Troll Zotted! Capitalism is not even mathematically possible, let alone biologically viabl

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[tet68]

Logic of the left

The glass is not half full.
The glass is not half empty.

The glass is too big.

And the wrong people are holding it.

[Cicero]

I'm not sure why this was zotted.

The article is highly amusing, and the only comment by the poster is "What an idiot." Granted, he just signed up today, but this strikes me as a reasonably harmless post.

[EGPWS]

This guy is a little to the left of Hillary...

Yes, maybe so however he has something going for his self promotion that Hillary doesn't.

Without knowing the guy, or ever seeing him, he has appealing looks going for him when referenced to Hillary!

[VRWC_minion]

This is tue and the poster has a point!...depending upon what ones definition of "we" is.

You can drive a 60,s car, go to a 60's doctor at a 60's hospital, punch a clock at a 60's office job, watch your 60's TV, dial your 60's phone and be tied to the 60's news sources. I'll stay here.

[50sDad]

The protesters beat Guinness in court, built an eco-village and held onto the land for six months.

Which means, at the end, they lost. LOOSERS!

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

"The economist Bernard Lietaer has shown how a system based upon negative rates of interest would ensure that we accord greater economic value to future resources than to present ones."

supercalifragalisticexpialidoshous

I'll let the author go first. I stand ready to borrow money from him and have him pay me for the privilege.

All those words to just say increase taxes on the wealthy, Proof that socialism is inefficient as well as exploitive.

[tet68]

This is true. In '68, I got Hot Wheels Superchargers and a Strange Change Machine for Christmas.

I got laid.


Luke didn't kill me, and I came home to find that the bank wouldn't loan me enough money to buy a new car, cause I was,"in the service".

Ah, the World, it was still better than "that place".

[50sDad]

Thanks to overpopulation, we have lost much of our freedom and good places to live.

Nonsense. They said in the 1960's that by 1980 we would be living in each other's vest pockets, and all the oil would be gone. Whups! Wrong again!

[tet68]

The laws of thermodynamics impose inherent limits upon biological production.

Tet's three laws of thermodynamic economy.
#1. Heat equals work.
#2. Work equals Dollars.
#3. Dollars are Good!

Simple really. Don't strike cold iron, always charge enough
and have several irons in the fire at one time.

[Matchett-PI]

"The ignorance of liberalism is blissfull, no doubt, but doesn't their intelectial honesty catch up with them sooner or later?"

They have none, so how can it catch up with them?

All of todays idealogical liberalism (as opposed to the classical liberalism of the past) is composed of emotionally immature mentalities.

One won't find the emotionally immature among those who engage in critical thinking. They don't dare to even try to engage in it, because they are afraid to face the reality to which it leads (it may not fit with what they prefer to believe).

Such mentalities aren't even intellectually honest with themselves.

[pabianice]

we see that the quality of life peaked in the United Kingdom in 1974 and in the United States in 1968,

Right. The year a swarm of dirty, drug-addled, obscenity-screeching, foul-smelling hippies burned-down our ROTC building on campus.

[Mr. K]

geez i don't even know where to begin about this idiocy...

I'd like to see a similar analysis by this moron on how socialism is the answer. it would probably be just as hilarious.

[Not A Snowbird]

My cat would like to join the Viking Kitties OFD (Orange Furball Division)... where does he sign up? He'd really like to nip this troll on the arse.

[Not A Snowbird]

My cat would like to join the Viking Kitties OFD (Orange Furball Division)... where does he sign up? He'd really like to nip this troll on the arse.

[EGPWS]

You can drive a 60,s car, go to a 60's doctor at a 60's hospital, punch a clock at a 60's office job, watch your 60's TV, dial your 60's phone and be tied to the 60's news sources.

LoL's...(gasp)No thanks, I'll tie myself to current events!...however I just listened to a great tune from the '60's..."Where Were You When I Needed You" by the "Grass Roots". I guess as little as it may be, some good came out of the '60's! : )

[I still care]

I think this guy is right. I think we should all throw out our flush toilets and live off the land in happy healthy harmony, unspoiled by evil capitalism and polluters. ----and I think the guy that wrote this article should go there first.

----Believe me, I actually saw this argument in an article by a UN leftist once, that they should take electricity away from Africa, so they could live their "happy, unspoiled, lives again."

[Not A Snowbird]

Wow, I double posted. How did I do that?

[Psycho_Bunny]

I'm not sure why this was zotted.

It seems pretty obvious this person is a troll.  He or she is just using the "See, I agree" argument of disarming - which is the hallmark of liberal dialectics. 

In it's classic form it appears as a 'but' statement:  "I agree we have the right to bear arms [lie] but since tens of thousands of children are murdered by guns every year [argument to emotion], firearms should be banned [true opinion]."

Furthermore, I'm sure the IP addresses of all posters are logged and if a repeat troll has a static address, you just ban it right off the bat.

That's the primary way the phrase "Returning Troll" makes sense.

[Flyer]

I'm late to the thread, but sometimes I just like beating dead horses.

[Straight Vermonter]

From the article: Within five or ten years, the global consumption of oil is likely to outstrip supply. Every year, up to 75 billion tonnes of topsoil are washed into the sea as a result of unsustainable farming, which equates to the loss of around nine million hectares of productive land. As a result, we can maintain current levels of food production only with the application of phosphate, but phosphate reserves are likely to be exhausted within 80 years. Forty per cent of the world's food is produced with the help of irrigation; some of the key aquifers are already running dry as a result of overuse.

Similar nonsense from the first Earth Day:
"We have about five more years at the outside to do something," ecologist Kenneth Watt declared to a Swarthmore College audience on April 19, 1970.

Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that "civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind."

"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation," wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

Peter Gunter, a professor at North Texas State University, wrote, "Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions....By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine"

(SV:Sounds a lot like climatologists agree almost unanimously blah blah blah doesn't it?)

More nonsense:
Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in an interview with then-radical journalist Peter Collier in the April 1970 Mademoiselle, "Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make, The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years."

The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years."

Those interested in info along these line should read the article posted here.