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Gay, lesbian couples can teach heterosexuals how to improve relationships: U of Wash
University of Washington ^ | October 20, 2003 | Joel Schwarz

Posted on 10/25/2003 2:03:02 PM PDT by nwrep

October 20, 2003


Contact: Joel Schwarz
joels@u.washington.edu
206-543-2580
University of Washington


Gay, lesbian couples can teach heterosexuals how to improve relationships

Married heterosexual couples can learn a great deal from gay and lesbian couples, far more than the stereotypical images presented by the television show "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," according to the first published observational studies of homosexual relationships.

"Gay and lesbian couples are a lot more mature, more considerate in trying to improve a relationship and have a greater awareness of equality in a relationship than straight couples," said John Gottman, a University of Washington emeritus professor of psychology who directed the research along with Robert Levenson, a University of California, Berkeley, psychology professor.

"I think that in 200 years heterosexual relationships will be where gay and lesbian relationships are today," said Gottman, who now heads the Relationship Research Institute in Seattle.

In the first of two papers published this month in the Journal of Homosexuality, the researchers explored the conflict interaction of homosexual and heterosexual couples using mathematical modeling techniques. In the second study, they looked at factors influencing gay and lesbian couples' relationship satisfaction and dissolution.

"In the modeling paper we looked at processes, and they look so different you could draw a picture," said Gottman. "Straight couples start a conflict discussion in a much more negative place than do gays and lesbian couples. Homosexuals start the same kind of discussions with more humor and affection, are less domineering and show considerably more positive emotions than heterosexual couples.

"The way a discussion starts is critical. If it starts off in a bad way in a heterosexual relationship, we have found that it will become even more negative 96 percent of the time. Gays and lesbians are warmer, friendlier and less belligerent. You see it over and over in their discussions, and their partner is receiving the message they are communicating. In turn, their partner is allowing himself or herself to be influenced in a positive way. With married heterosexual couples a discussion is much more of a power struggle with someone being invalidated."

Gay and lesbian relationships seem to be marked by what Gottman calls "the triumph of positive emotions over negative emotions."

"Negative emotions have more impact in heterosexual relationships," he said. "This is why our previous research has shown you need a 5-to-1 ratio of positive to negative statements. This seems to be universal in heterosexual couples. But it may be different in gay and lesbian relationships where positive emotions seem to have a lot more power or influence."

Dan Yoshimoto, a UW psychology doctoral student who worked on the studies, added that the ways gays and lesbians resolve conflict may be the glue that maintains stability in homosexual relationships.

"They start and maintain a conversation a positive way and this may enable them to solve a problem and resolve conflict," he said."

What makes the new studies noteworthy is that they went beyond collecting self-reported data from questionnaires. While self reports produce important information, the researchers wrote, "there is considerable evidence that people's perceptions of their relationship may diverge quite markedly from their actual interaction." The researchers videotaped discussions each couple had about what occurred that day, a topic of ongoing conflict, and a pleasant topic to analyze the verbal and nonverbal content of their interaction during the talks and again at a later time when the partners viewed the tape individually. The researchers also collected an array of physiological data, including heart rate, during the conversations.

Homosexual couples in the studies were recruited in the San Francisco Bay area and they filled out a questionnaire that assessed relationship satisfaction. Forty pairs – 12 happy gay couples, 10 unhappy gay couples, 10 happy lesbian couples and 8 unhappy lesbian couples – were chosen to participate in the study. The comparison sample of married couples was drawn from a larger study that recruited couples from around Bloomington, Ind. It was matched in terms of age, marital satisfaction, education and income to the homosexual couples and consisted of 20 happy and 20 unhappy couples.

The researchers also collected data for 12 years on the relationships of the homosexual couples. By then eight couples (20 percent) – one gay and seven lesbian – had broken up. This rate, if projected over a 40-year period, would be almost 64 percent, which is similar to the 67 percent divorce rate for first marriages among heterosexual couples of the same time span.

Data also showed that while high levels of cardiovascular arousal among straight couples during a conflict conversation was a predictor of lower relationship satisfaction and higher risk for relationship dissolution, the reverse was true with homosexual couples. With gays and lesbians, low physiological arousal was related to these negative outcomes.

"Another interesting thing that emerged in conversations the couples had was that gays and lesbians are more honest. They talked explicitly about monogamy and sex. Those topics don't come up in 31 years of studying heterosexual couples," said Gottman. "Heterosexual are uptight in talking about sex and you don't hear explicit sexual talk. In reviewing the tapes of their conversations, you really don't know what they are talking about. Same sex couples talk about sex, and are more mature and honest and less fragile in talking about it.

Gottman also said: "The overall implication of this research is that we have to shake off all of the stereotypes of homosexual relationships and have more respect for them as committed relationships. Gays and lesbians may be more competent at having a mature relationship. Our data suggests our society needs to reconsider its policy and that we should value and honor love where ver we find it," Gottman said.

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The National Institute of Mental Health funded the research.

Co-authors of the conflict interaction paper were Catherine Swanson and Rebecca Tyson, both of whom earned their doctorates in applied mathematics at the UW, and Kristin Swanson, a UW research assistant professor of pathology. Co-authors of the study examining gay and lesbian relationship satisfaction were James Gross, a Stanford University associate professor of psychology; Barbara Frederick, University of Michigan psychology professor; Kim McCoy, a UC Berkeley psychology doctoral student; Leah Rosenthal, who earned a doctorate in psychology at UC Berkeley; and Anna Ruef, an assistant professor at Boston Veterans Administration Medical Center.

For more information, contact Gottman at (206) 832-0300 or johng@gottmanresearch.com; levenson at (510) 642-5050 boblev@socrates.berkeley.edu; or Yoshimoto at (206) 832-0317 or yosh@u.washington.edu


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; christianpersecutio; culturewar; gay; homosexualagenda; perverts; prisoners; students
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1 posted on 10/25/2003 2:03:05 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
Oh, please!
2 posted on 10/25/2003 2:04:23 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; *Christian persecutio; *Culture_War; *Students; Washington
ping
3 posted on 10/25/2003 2:06:03 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
South Park Rules
See this weeks new episode.
4 posted on 10/25/2003 2:07:05 PM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: nwrep; scripter; EdReform
This is a sad comedown for Dr Gottman.

I'm not sure those whose "committed" relationships last 1.5 years with 8 instances of infidelity are really in a position to teach anyone anything about relationships EXCEPT "How NOT to do it!"

Sad for Dr Gottman.

I've gotta look this up to see if he and his research is being accurately characterized.

5 posted on 10/25/2003 2:07:25 PM PDT by xzins (And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
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To: GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...
The National Institute of Mental Health funded the research.

Our tax dollars at work.

6 posted on 10/25/2003 2:09:32 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: xzins
Dr. Got Man??? Obviously a bone smuggler...
7 posted on 10/25/2003 2:10:52 PM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: nwrep
Relationship tips from drug addicted, alcohol abusing, FUDGE PACKERS!
8 posted on 10/25/2003 2:11:33 PM PDT by chicagolady
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To: nwrep

9 posted on 10/25/2003 2:12:10 PM PDT by The_Republican
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To: nwrep
So why are gay relationships more likely to involve physical and emotional abuse?
10 posted on 10/25/2003 2:13:36 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: evolved_rage
It appears from the article that things are accurately characterized, but I am wondering about the discrepancy between the longevity of the couples.

My guess is that these were "selected" couples.

Sample size seems to be somewhat small.
11 posted on 10/25/2003 2:14:07 PM PDT by xzins (And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
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To: nwrep
Mr. Leather

The largest gay gathering in the World!

On International Mr. Leather/Chicago Free Press

Friday, June 06, 2003

"IML [International Mr. Leather] weekend offers workshops from financial planning to flogging, receptions with slaves and masters and bootblacks, porn shows, smoking parties, dance-a-thons and perhaps the largest leather market in the world. 'It's all a big family affair,' said [David] Kloss [the first ever international Mr. Leather]."


- Chicago Free Press, May 21 edition, on the then-upcoming annual IML conference, held at Chicago's Palmer House almost three weeks ago.





12 posted on 10/25/2003 2:14:41 PM PDT by chicagolady
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To: nwrep
"...John Gottman, a University of Washington emeritus professor of psychology who directed the research along with Robert Levenson, a University of California, Berkeley, psychology professor."

These two are just plain nuts.

13 posted on 10/25/2003 2:18:06 PM PDT by Mortimer Snavely (Ban tag lines!)
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To: nwrep
If these deviants had some insight into relationships, then why would AIDS be part of the obituary involving so many "committed" homosexual couples?
14 posted on 10/25/2003 2:18:34 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: nwrep
Homosexuality is damaging to society. Over Memorial Day weekend, here in Chicago, the International Mr. Leather event returned. First-hand accounts of hotel workers who were molested, security guards who resigned over fondling, as well as the inability to be allowed to keep order, and the city police who looked the other way while the most disgusting displays of ingestion, consumption, expulsion and any other bodily functions took place in public rooms should settle this issue.


But if you are still not convinced, go out and buy a copy of Dr. Cary Savitch's book, "The Nutcracker Is Already Dancing." Our fear to speak out on basic understandings of right vs. wrong is preventing our society from reaching its potential. But beyond that, we are also laying the foundation for a destructive future.


So what am I suggesting? That my otherwise clear-thinking conservative friends and colleagues be courageous and remind the world that one of the basic tenets of conservative values is knowing that there is such a thing as right and wrong. And for as long as God's creation has been here, homosexual behavior has always been - and continues to be - morally wrong.

15 posted on 10/25/2003 2:21:25 PM PDT by chicagolady
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To: nwrep
Gay couples are just like dolphins: they have so much to teach us, if were were only intelligent enough to understand their language.
16 posted on 10/25/2003 2:34:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
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To: nwrep
Oy vey!

17 posted on 10/25/2003 2:36:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I can't tell which one is the blushing bride?
18 posted on 10/25/2003 2:37:25 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
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To: Jeff Chandler
a few million more "couples" like this and our problems in the middle east will be history!
19 posted on 10/25/2003 2:47:14 PM PDT by millefleur
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To: xzins
Conveniently so, dontcha think?
20 posted on 10/25/2003 2:53:14 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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