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SoCal Fire News Live Thread 10/27 - News updates/pics only!
My personal list of news and info on the California firestorms | 10/27/2003 | ladypixel

Posted on 10/27/2003 6:23:56 PM PST by Ladypixel

Current Fires Active list for California, 6:19pm 10/27/03

(Updates welcome. Freepmail me or post 'em. I need all the help maintaining this list that I can get! Please, let's not discuss theories of how the fires started, or political debates of who should or should not be there... let's keep this thread as a fire-news only thread. Thank you!)

Most recent total update: 1,100 homes lost in the southland. 325,000 acres burned. 30,000 homes still threatened by the fire.

The list:

Hemet fire, Riverside county. As of last heard report, 6500 acres burned. May have joined with the Mountain fire (see below).

Simi Valley fire, Ventura county/northern Los Angeles county - Combined with original Val Verde/Santa Clarita fire. 120,000 acres. Six homes destroyed, eight damaged. Containment: 0 percent. Start: Oct. 25. Firefighters trying to save Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. Voluntary evacuations for Moorpark. Personnel: 599 firefighters. Cause: Arson. People in Box Canyon, Woolsey Canyon, Twin Lakes, Iverson Ranch, and other nearby regions have been evacuated. Evacuated region is north of Santa Suzanna Pass. Fire currently closest to Indian Oaks mobile home park.

Piru fire, Ventura county - 5,500 acres. Containment: 85 percent. Start: Oct. 23, west of Lake Piru in Ventura County. The fire in Los Padres National Forest is threatening the Sespe Wilderness and Sespe Condor sanctuary. There are no condors currently in the refuge. Voluntary evacuations in Piru and parts of Fillmore. Personnel: 780 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Grand Prix fire, San Bernardino & Los Angeles counties - 40 mile fireline from LA to San Bernardino county (includes Old Waterman fire and Crestline fire) - Fire line is 40 miles long including the Old Waterman fire. 35,000 acres. 62 homes destroyed. Containment: 23 percent. Mandantory evacuations in Lytle Creek, Mt. Baldy, Rialto, and parts of Claremont, Upland, and other foothill communities of the San Gabriel Mtns. Personnel: 2,427 firefighters. Fire started on Foxborough Drive in the city of Fontana. Cause: Arson. Fire considered 100 percent contained in western region reaching from La Verne, CA to Rancho Cucamonga, CA. (Yay!)

Old Waterman fire, San Bernardino county - Size: 15,000 acres. 300 homes and ten commercial buildings destroyed. Deaths: 2. Containment: 5 percent. Start: Oct. 25 near San Bernardino National Forest. Evacuations in foothill areas of San Bernardino and mountain communities, including Crestline and Lake Arrowhead. Personnel: 917 firefighters. Cause: Arson.

Crestline fire, San Bernardino county - Burning next to Crestline and Lake Arrowhead currently, with evacuations in Big Bear, Running Springs, Blue Jay, and other close areas. Acreage unknown. Grand Prix fire is burning up the mountain to join with it, slowly but surely. Approx. 30 structures in Crestline burned. Mandantory evacuations in Lake Arrowhead, Rim Forest, Sky Forest, Running Springs, Arrowbear, Blue Jay, Crestline, Green Valley Springs, and Big Bear. Hospital in Lake Arrowhead has been evacuated as per NBC4 broadcast; patients have been taken to hospitals in Hesperia and other high-desert cities.

Valley Center fire, San Diego county - See Paradise Fire

San Clemente/Camp Pendleton fire, San Diego county - Freeper reports that it was just south of San Onofre power plant, a couple miles inland from the 5 freeway. Size: 4,800 acres. Containment: 75 percent. No structures burned, although the fire threatened homes in nearby De Luz. Started Oct. 21st on the base north of San Diego. Key facts: Authorities are downplaying early reports that fire was ignited by live ammo exercises on the base. Personnel: 1,000 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Mountain fire, Riverside county - Now combo fire, including Rancho California fire: 6,000 acres. Six structures destroyed. Containment: 60 percent. Some burn injuries reported. Evacuations ordered for homes near Lake Skinner. Two civillian injuries. Personnel: 250 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Riverside fire, Riverside county - Fire was located at last report (2:42pm) at Limonite Av/northbound I-15. Brush fire, no visibility on freeway at report time.

Malibu fire, Los Angeles/Ventura county region - FIRE OUT as of 10/26/03! Hooray!

Otay Lakes fire, San Diego county. Still active. Last update as of 3:56pm; location of fire was Otay Lakes Rd. at Wueste Rd. Closure on Otay Lakes Rd. at the 94. Fire jumped to northbound side of Procter Vally at Otay Lakes Rd. No other info available.

Cedar fire, San Diego county. Structures burned: 100 homes in Ramona, 150 in Scripps Ranch, 10 in Tierrasanta, 8 in Santee, 50-100 structures in Crest (east of El Cajon), many other structures. Deaths: 9. Injured: 2 firefighters, several civilians. Started Oct. 25 in eastern San Diego County, between Julian and Ramona. 200,000 acres burned. Personnel: More than 800 firefighters. Containment: 0 percent. Extends to Scripps Ranch, Poway, Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, portions of Santee, Lakeside, Ramona, El Cajon, San Carlos, Alpine, and Blossom Valley. Air traffic nationwide was disrupted when this fire forced the evacuation of a FAA control center at Miramar. Cause: Authorities believe a hunter set a signal fire when he got lost.

Dulzura fire, San Diego county - Also known as the Mine fire. 15,000 acres. Containment: 0 percent. Personnel: 300 firefighters. Started Oct. 26 in southern San Diego county. Fire crossed the border into Mexico, but no structures were threatened in Tijuana. Cause: Under investigation.

Paradise fire, San Diego county. Also known as Escondido fire. 15,000 acres. 57 homes and 103 outbuildings burned (no homes in Escondido area were lost), two deaths. Containment: 0 percent. Started Oct. 26 in Valley Center area near Interstate 15. Valley View Casino evacuated. Personnel: More than 500+ firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Poway fire: See Cedar fire.

Ramona fire: See Cedar fire.

DePortola (Temecula) fire, Riverside county (may be San Diego county?) - Started 2:16pm 10/27/03 near the I-15 & Hwy 76. Small brush fire. May be out.

Norco? fire, Los Angeles county - Started approx 2:58 pm, fire beneath the 71 freeway, 2 suspects with a red cass can seen running towards the local humane society. No additional details since 3:12pm. Fire estimated to be at SR71 just north of Mission Blvd. (May have to go personally check this one out.)

San Luis Obispo fire, county unknown - Reported at 9:03am. As of report at 1:03pm, fire was burning towards Resevoir Canyon in a SE direction. Fire near the 101 freeway; as per 3:04pm report, traffic delays up to 45 minutes due to fire.

Yucaipa fire, Riverside/San Bernardino county - Reported to be near state route 38 and Bryant. No other info available.

Antelope Valley fire, county unknown - Not much info on this fire, except a location (as of 3:46pm) of Avenue J at 90th St. East.

Long Beach fire, Los Angeles county - Not much info on this fire except location of 5602 N. Long Beach Blvd; may be a building fire in-city and not a wildfire.

Convoy fire, San Diego county - Reported start at 3:29pm, location westbound 52 at Convoy. Small brush fire. No other info available.

Redding fire, San Bernardino county - Reported as of 5:52pm, location Dersch Rd. at Parkville Rd in Redding. No additional info available.

Point Reyes fire (Northern California) - Reported as of 3:46pm. A ditch was on fire along Petaluma Rd. at Nicasio Valley Rd. 1 lane of traffic shut down. No further information available.

OTHER: Reports of a P2V Firefighting plane, crashed 7.4 miles SSW of Big Bear Dam. Supposedly ignited a fire, no survivors expected. Crash was described as in "pieces".

JUST IN: Report of a transformer fire in San Bernardino, location Alto Dr. at Mesa Ct. No further info avail.

TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; cedarfire; crestline; fire; lakearrowhead; losangeles; poway; riverside; sanbernardino; sandiego; scrippsfire; simivalley; wildfires
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Again, let's keep this as a fire-news only thread, pretty please? Much as I understand the discussion, I'm more interested on what's actually happening, rather than theories of what should or could be happening. Thanks!
1 posted on 10/27/2003 6:23:56 PM PST by Ladypixel
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To: Ladypixel
2 posted on 10/27/2003 6:25:31 PM PST by Unknown Freeper
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To: Unknown Freeper
Yeah, but the last six hundred posts on that thread haven't had news; they've had debates of whether Bush and Schwarzenegger should or should not be at the fire zones, or complaints about Gray Davis.

It's no longer a news thread... therefore, I started a news thread.
3 posted on 10/27/2003 6:27:49 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Fire has jumped Hwy 18 in Lake Arrowhead. Reports of homes burning.
4 posted on 10/27/2003 6:31:48 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Report of a fire in the Riverside area at 7251 Jurupa Road. Field on fire at 6:31pm. No further info avail.

Report of a fire starting at Interstate 5 at Tuxford near the onramp, just north of Penrose St. Report as of 6:29pm. No further info avail.
5 posted on 10/27/2003 6:36:50 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel
Deadly Calif. Fires Threaten 30,000 Homes

Oct 27, 5:31 PM (ET)


(AP) Ken Hunt, from the Camp Pendleton Fire Department, battles a wildfire while trying to save homes in...
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SAN DIEGO (AP) - Ash fell on the beach like snow and drivers turned on their headlights in the smoky daytime streets Monday as wildfires that have reduced entire neighborhoods to moonscapes skipped through the hills of Southern California and threatened 30,000 more homes.

California's deadliest outbreak of fires in more than a decade has destroyed at least 1,100 homes, killed at least 13 people and consumed more than 400,000 acres stretching from the Mexican border to the suburbs northeast of Los Angeles.

The dry, hot Santa Ana winds that have fanned the flames began to ease Monday, raising hopes that overwhelmed firefighters could make progress with the help of reinforcements on their way from other Western states. But the danger was still high. . . . .

This is an exerpt from the artical as found here:




6 posted on 10/27/2003 6:45:29 PM PST by tomball
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To: Ladypixel
Over 1,000 Homes, 425,000 Acres Burned. This was due to arson and therefore is terrorism.
7 posted on 10/27/2003 6:46:42 PM PST by ex-Texan (My tag line is broken !)
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KABC reports tens of thousands of SoCal customers without power, with no end in sight, related to wildfire damage.

All San Bernardino Unified School District schools closed tomorrow. Cal State University Northridge cancelling tonight's evening classes due to the Simi Valley fire.
9 posted on 10/27/2003 6:49:53 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Battle Axe
Satellite photos available of SoCal region at NOAA website. Don't believe they're realtime, but there's recent images available.
10 posted on 10/27/2003 6:51:37 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Inland Communications Center

Incident: 1570 Type: Report of Fire
Location: INLAND
Zoom Map: 575 1H Info as of: 10/27/2003 6:47:17 PM


6:44PM - CHP Unit On Scene
6:45PM - CHP Unit On Scene
6:46PM - CHP Unit Enroute
11 posted on 10/27/2003 6:55:37 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Border Communications Center

Incident: 0014 Type: Structure or Grass Fire
Location: ALPINE
Zoom Map: Click Here
Info as of: 10/27/2003 6:55:24 PM

12 posted on 10/27/2003 7:00:57 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel
And maps too.

Wetting this thead to find my way back.
13 posted on 10/27/2003 7:01:51 PM PST by oceanperch
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NOAA satellite maps, realtime, available at this site. You can specify the area of SoCal that you wish to look at once the page has loaded. Maps show current hotspots and smoke paths.
14 posted on 10/27/2003 7:02:32 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Tonight on KUSI - the weather guy said the Santa Ana winds have all but gone. The winds are very calm. We still have fires at Alpine and Otay Mesa. But .. with the humidity imporving and the winds calming down, this should improve very quickly.

There will be a small resurgence in the morning from the northeast, but early in the day the winds will shift to ONSHORE - blowing the smoky haze to the east toward Arizona by early afternoon.
16 posted on 10/27/2003 7:03:31 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: sf4dubya
To the best of my knowledge, they're burning on the western edge of Lake Arrowhead. However, I'm waiting for a current report as to what addresses.
17 posted on 10/27/2003 7:03:41 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: ex-Texan
This was due to arson and therefore is terrorism.

Does such hyperbole make you feel kewl or something?
18 posted on 10/27/2003 7:05:32 PM PST by gcruse (
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Incident: 0004 Type: Media Information
Zoom Map: Click Here
Info as of: 10/27/2003 6:58:37 PM

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19 posted on 10/27/2003 7:05:35 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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