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Schiavo lawyers challenge 'Terri's Law'
AP | 10/29/03

Posted on 10/29/2003 2:20:27 PM PST by kattracks

CLEARWATER, Fla. (AP) — A hastily passed state law that empowered Gov. Jeb Bush to keep a severely brain-damaged woman alive is unconstitutional, attorneys for the woman's husband claimed Wednesday.

In a court filing, attorneys for Michael Schiavo challenged what Florida lawmakers dubbed "Terri's Law," which gave Bush the authority to order Terri Schiavo's feeding tube be reinserted Oct. 21. They asked that the law be overturned.

The filing's major contentions are that the law violates Terri Schiavo's right to privacy under the Florida Constitution and the separation of power provisions of the state constitution.

Michael Schiavo has been battling in court for years to carry out what he says is his wife's wish to not be kept alive artificially.

His in-laws, Bob and Mary Schindler, have fought him, saying their daughter had no such wishes and is not in a permanent vegetative state, as a probate judge has declared. They say she is responsive and could improve with therapy.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: righttodeath; righttolife; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrisbill; terrischiavo
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To: stanz
I can't help but wonder if his "new family" realizes that when he tires of them, they could end up just like Terri.

21 posted on 10/29/2003 3:17:21 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: kattracks
the law violates Terri Schiavo's right to privacy under the Florida Constitution

Is that like the "right to privacy" in the US Constitution? I.e., a figment of a fragment of a shade of a penumbra?

22 posted on 10/29/2003 3:18:07 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: pickyourpoison
the latest thing is that he also has another child from another relationship and is paying child support for that one.

Was that child fathered before the Terri "accident" or after? I'll bet the mother of that child might have something to say about all of this . . . unless her child support payments depend on Terri's continued abuse.

23 posted on 10/29/2003 3:19:25 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: tomniris
"ALso folks please don't let your loved ones go to HOSPICE as they will hasten your loved ones death."

This case brings up some righteous anger, but I have to disagree vehemently with your statement. Hospice and hospice workers are not angels of death. Please don't make a blanket statement like that.
24 posted on 10/29/2003 3:21:51 PM PST by OpusatFR (The leftwing lies because the truth would kill them all off.)
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To: MizSterious
Yes, I wouldn't turn my back on him if I were Jody Centonze.
25 posted on 10/29/2003 3:27:57 PM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I don't have any info on the other child, I read about it a few days ago on another Terri thread.
26 posted on 10/29/2003 3:27:57 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: MizSterious
Consider this. Michael was on LKL and made this a statement about how "There was no insurance policy on Terri that he would collect when she died".

Funny, no one asked about that. Guilty conscious, preempting questions?

Here's the info he didn't mention. His girlfriend works at an insurance company.

After Terri dead, and (if my guess is true) Michael collects, then he no longer needs his current girlfriend, she cannot collect child support or alimony. Isn't that nice?

27 posted on 10/29/2003 3:30:34 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: george wythe
James Madison, for instance, criticized state politicians for altering "rights which should have been left to judicial controversy."

Yes, but that was before the founders realized the judiciary would become a cadre of black-robed tyrants.

Hamilton wrote in the Federalist 78 the judiciary was the least of the branches to be feared, since judges could exercise neither will nor power.

Little did he know of how judges would exercise their will, and actually make law from the bench.

Little did he know of the judicial usurpations that were was to come: Roe v. Wade...Doe v. Bolton...Gratz v. Michigan...Lawrence v. Texas...etc. etc.

28 posted on 10/29/2003 3:31:59 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: kattracks
I got this form-email today from Johnnie Byrd, Speaker of the Florida House:

Thank you for contacting me to express your concerns regarding Terri Schiavo. I value your input on this important matter.

During the past year, the Florida House has faced difficult choices in many areas. We have crafted legislation regarding the budget, healthcare, workers’ compensation, and prescription drug relief for Floridians. Presently, legislation is being considered to address the victims of legal dehydration and starvation deaths.

Every Floridian has a right to determine their own treatment, and anyone who has executed an advanced directive has the right to have his or her instructions carried out. Where there is no disagreement among family members, present law does not appear to create reasons for legislative intervention. However, the Terri Schiavo case raises troubling concerns that the proposed legislation would address.

The bill passed by the House in Special Session “E” on Monday night would allow the Governor to issue a moratorium to stop contested legal dehydration and starving deaths in Florida in certain instances. The moratorium would give the Legislature time to assess our current law.

With our pledge to protect the most vulnerable, I strongly believe that someone needs to be a voice for the voiceless like Terri Schiavo.

Again, thank you for contacting me. I will take your comments to heart and give them careful consideration as we address the issue of contested legal dehydration and starvation cases.

Very truly yours,
Johnnie Byrd
Speaker


29 posted on 10/29/2003 3:40:01 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: spunkets
Thank you for sharing your opinion.

I don't buy any of your "facts."

In my humble opinion, both the law and the facts on the side of Judge Greer, the Second District Court of Appeals, the Florida Supreme Court and the US Supreme Court.

And if the highest court of the land upholds this 15-day-shelf-life law, created especially to overcome a judicial outcome, then the law will be on the side of the Schindlers.

What will happen the next time there is another Terri Schiavo in Florida? Will the legislature pass another special law?

What will happen when a new governor is elected? Will the new governor lift the stay on Terri Schiavo?

"Terri's Law" did not fit the systemic problem in Florida, nor saved Terri's life indefinately, even if upheld by the highest court.

Both Floridians and Terri deserve finality on this issue.

30 posted on 10/29/2003 3:43:56 PM PST by george wythe
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To: MizSterious
I can't help but wonder if his "new family" realizes that when he tires of them, they could end up just like Terri.

I read 'reports' from Terri's friends that said he was very controling. After reading about the girlfriend doing Terri's laundry and the girlfriend's mother standing guard....I think I believe these 'reports'. I've been there, done that...just different circumstances.

31 posted on 10/29/2003 3:46:05 PM PST by Krodg (I believe, I pray and I fight.)
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To: shhrubbery!
Great letter written by the legislator.
32 posted on 10/29/2003 3:46:29 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: stanz
Terri should have chosen a better spouse. It's too bad he didn't find the girlfriend, and not Terri. It sounds like he and the girlfriend are two peas in a pod.
33 posted on 10/29/2003 3:49:13 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: UCANSEE2
His girlfriend works at an insurance company.

I knew Terri had worked for an insurance co. but didn't know about the girlfriend. Do you have a source?

34 posted on 10/29/2003 3:50:41 PM PST by Krodg (I believe, I pray and I fight.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Don't you think she would get child support?
35 posted on 10/29/2003 3:54:29 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: george wythe
This has not just happened to Terri. There's many cases like this that we didn't hear about. Terri's case has made national news, others haven't. Put the name "Hugh Finn" or "Marjorie Nighbert" in your search engine and read their stories.
36 posted on 10/29/2003 4:00:24 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: pickyourpoison
Judy has no rights. She is not married to Michael.

When asked if Michael and Judy had plans to marry after Terri dies, Michael stated, "WE (meaning he) like things just the way they are"

37 posted on 10/29/2003 4:09:18 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Terri was supposed to have been very shy. This was probably her first love. When you're young and in love, it's easy to miss certain alarm bells. This guy is also very smooth. She probably never had a chance until it was too late.
38 posted on 10/29/2003 4:09:36 PM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: Krodg
I will see if I can find where I read that bit of info, and will ping you if I find it. It was on one of these threads.<
39 posted on 10/29/2003 4:10:36 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: kattracks
There was a rumor that Michael was in hiding because of all the death threats he is getting. He must be terrified and getting very paranoid by now. Does he play lurking games or post troll-like comments on FR?
40 posted on 10/29/2003 4:11:23 PM PST by ex-Texan (Reuters Deserves a Long Double Flush . . . Pull the Chain!)
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