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Loggers Wanted
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| Thursday, October 30, 2003
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Posted on 10/30/2003 7:32:06 AM PST by Isara
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It's sad that it took big disasters to prove that their "do not disturb the forests" policy is a failure.
Are they going to hug some trees to prevent the fire from burning their beloved trees?
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posted on
10/30/2003 7:32:06 AM PST
by
Isara
To: Isara
Ya mean buring and burnt out forests dont make good habitat for all the little endangered creatures....
If you hate the land and the animals give to environ mental causes...no one can kill them off faster than these idjits
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posted on
10/30/2003 7:41:29 AM PST
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: Isara
It's kind of a bummer that the tree huggers camping out in the canopy of trees are located near the Bay Area, while the fires were down south near LA and San Diego. It would have been nice to see a tree hugger's cognitive dissonance when tree-hugging rhetoric (staying in the trees at all costs) collides with the consequences of tree-hugging policy.
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posted on
10/30/2003 7:47:33 AM PST
by
coloradan
(Hence, etc.)
To: Isara
Guess it is time to shut the barn door now. The horse has already gone.
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posted on
10/30/2003 7:51:24 AM PST
by
Piquaboy
To: coloradan
"
It would have been nice to see a tree hugger's cognitive dissonance when tree-hugging rhetoric (staying in the trees at all costs) collides with the consequences of tree-hugging policy."Like when a tree that they are hugging suddenly erupts into a hellish torch of a flame!
To: Isara
Well HELLOOOOOOOOOO....the morons in Sacramento and DC have had years to combat the problems in the national forest and low and behold twenty people are killed, 2600 homes are destroyed and 600K acres of forest are burned to the ground and the idiots FINALLY get the friggin' message that maybe, just maybe they shoud do something. WELL THANK YOU VERY FRIGGING MUCH!!! WE MUST HAVE SOME OF THE DUMBEST CLOWNS IN THE WORLD WORKING FOR US!!!! Of course if these idiots had a brain in their head they wouldn't be in politics or government, they'd go out and get a real job!!!
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posted on
10/30/2003 7:57:19 AM PST
by
kellynla
("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69 &70 Semper Fi!)
To: Isara
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posted on
10/30/2003 7:59:38 AM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
To: Isara
It would be funny if the loggers refused to cut trees on Federal or State lands.
Due to having to make environmental impact statements and such, all the loggers should issue a 'No Bid' statement on logging contracts.
Let the lazy State and Federal park rangers get off their lazy butts and fill out the paperwork and cut the lumber.
Is worth anything right now for loggers to cut up a bunch of burned up lumber?
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:01:31 AM PST
by
Chewbacca
(Nothing burps better than bacon!)
To: Isara
When I was a lad growing up in Idaho, the solution to an infestation of spruce bark beetles was selective logging. It worked and the greatest part of the surrounding National Forest was saved.
As an adult living on the Kenai penninsula in Alaska, we had a similar infestation of spruce bark beetles. We were not allowed to selectively log and protect the forest because of lawsuits filled by environmental groups. Today most of the old growth timber on the penninsula is dead and brown. So far we have been lucky and have not had the wildfires similar to those in California, and we are cutting the dead trees to try and reduce the fire hazard.
To: kellynla
I agree in general with your post except for the part about them finally getting it. I don't think they ever will. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
To: Chewbacca
The "forests" of Southern California are commercially worthless. Loggers don't have the slightest interest in cutting anything in Southern California.
People are sort of confusing normal forests with Southern California chaparral and scrub...totally different deal.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:09:34 AM PST
by
John H K
To: nightdriver
Like when a tree that they are hugging suddenly erupts into a hellish torch of a flame! Why, yes as a matter of fact. When the square miles all around them are burning, and the flame front finally reaches the tree one's roost is in. Dang! If only that tree, and that one and that one and that one had been logged, then the fire wouldn't be able to get to this one.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:11:57 AM PST
by
coloradan
(Hence, etc.)
To: 17th Miss Regt
Well it is all of our responsibilities to keep the pressure on and educate everyone that THIS DEVASTATION COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED!!! Thinning the forests and controlled burns are absolutely paramount! A healthy forest would be able to combat the bark bettle and thinning the forest would need less water and create a healthier forest!
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:23:43 AM PST
by
kellynla
("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69 &70 Semper Fi!)
To: Isara
Maybe we'll get this one lone Bill passed, but it won't stop the Environazis. It won't even slow them. There are thousands of their appalling laws on the books and entire government agencies at all levels infested by them.
There has been very little coverage of the causes of these fires in the national or cable news reports. Sure, they mention "beattle infestation", but never mention there is a way it could have been stopped before it happened. Sure, they mention all the "dead fuel" in the forests, but don't wonder how it got to stay there.
Look for the next attack by the environazis to be on the homeowners who live in or near these forests. "If only these selfish people didn't live out in these natural wildlife habitats and put them in harms way..."
There will be no huge hue and cry against these radical "environmentalists" and their totalitarian movements. The Media is full of people who are on their side. There are well-organized and funded legions of lawyers with thousands of pages of legislation and court precedent on their side who will continue to tie up everything to do with the outdoors. They will just continue spin this catastrophe as something else or ignore it, as they have done for decades.
The public will go back to worrying about Kobe.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:36:05 AM PST
by
Gritty
To: Gritty
That's why they are called "Watermelon." Their agenda is to destroy U.S. economy and capitalism.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:40:34 AM PST
by
Isara
To: Piquaboy
Guess it is time to shut the barn door now. The horse has already gone.The horse isn't gone...The barn burned down.
To: CathyRyan
On second thought, the horse is gone too.
To: Isara
Duh, they could have put a lot of unemployed people to work the last two years doing this.
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posted on
10/30/2003 10:12:15 AM PST
by
sixmil
To: Piquaboy
Guess it is time to shut the barn door now. The horse has already gone. Don't bet on getting the barn door shut even now. The usual liberal response to things like this is to say "We just didn't go far enough." Gun control makes Washington DC the murder capitol of the USA? No problem, they just didn't ban enough guns. High taxes kill the economy? No problem, raise them higher. Unmanaged forests go up in smoke? No problem with th law, the just didn't go far enough. Just add to the acreage of unmanaged forests - prevent homeowners from clearing brush on their property, etc.
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posted on
10/30/2003 10:22:23 AM PST
by
from occupied ga
(Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
To: kellynla
Thinning the forests and controlled burns are absolutely paramount! Thinning forests and clearing chaparral costs a lot of money. Who's gonna pay for it?
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