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To: Apogee
And which of the several thousand 'Reformers' of the last 500 years do we look to for the truth as proclaimed by Jesus? Makes one wonder why Jesus established a Church when so many were waiting to improve on His structure!
9 posted on 10/31/2003 6:47:51 PM PST by Rushian
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To: Rushian
I too have little use for every person who thinks he is God's gift to the church, and how did it ever get by without him? The church was continuously being reformed for generations before Luther, and his intent was not to divide or destroy any more than any of the others who came before. However, it does happen, sometimes more than others, that truth and non-truth can not peacefully coexist, and more often than not in those cases, established non-truth will seek to destroy or drive out that which is true (Plato even saw this in his time).
My purpose was not to raise a "reformed" battle cry, but to celebrate the re-entry of a lot (not "all") of truth into a system that had become undeniably corrupt.
11 posted on 10/31/2003 7:32:58 PM PST by Apogee ( vade in pace)
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To: Rushian
"And which of the several thousand 'Reformers' of the last 500 years do we look to for the truth as proclaimed by Jesus?"

We need not look upon ANY man of the past 500 years for the truth. All we need to do is to, as Christ himself did, look at Scripture -alone!

Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason - I do not accept the authority of the popes and councils, for they have contradicted each other - my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe.

On this I take my stand. I can do no other. God help me.

-Martin Luther at the Diet of Worms (1521)

Jean

14 posted on 11/02/2003 7:36:47 AM PST by Jean Chauvin (Sola Scriptura---Sola Fida---Sola Gracia---Sola Christus---Soli Deo Gloria)
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