[Deep_6]

Terri's lost her Cerebral Cortex and the cavity filled with spinal fluid.

The cerebral cortex can not be replaced or replenished; it can not
grow back; it can not be transplanted.

Without a cerebral cortex, an individual ceases to be an individual.

There is a total loss of coherency; the individual is rendered to a 
vegetated state. There is no chance for any recovery from that state.

Terri is truly in a vegetated state and has been for 13 years.

Terri had been placed on a feeding apparatus due to her inability
to swallow voluntarily. She can not live without that feeding device;
that feeding device in the State of Florida is considered a life support
system, since the individual can not survive without it's usage.

Since Terri can not and never will regain any consciousness to
allow her to ever converse, or have any voluntary movement,
she is considered in a vegetative state.

Terri has been in this vegetative state for 13 years. Removing 
her from a life support system is a decision a guardian must decide.

No-one remains on a mechanical life support system indefinitely;
if there is no chance for recovery, no chance for any coherency,
and no chance to ever have the ability to engage a voluntary
movement, then forcing a soul to be contained in a lifeless
shell of a body is more inhuman; more sacrilegious, that to
allow it to pass.

Terri's dead; let her soul rest in peace.

 

[sweetliberty]

Thank you Doctor Death. Or is it doctor God? Or is it Michael? Either stop believing everything you hear on CNN and learn some of the facts of the case or at least show a little respect for those who have.

[Petronski]

God? Is that You?

Nope, didn't think so.

[First Amendment]

Please cite evidence that her cerebral cortex is lost.

[yesnettv]

Get informed about the case.
You are wrong.

[Concerned]

DEEP_6 WROTE: "Terri's lost her Cerebral Cortex and the cavity filled with spinal fluid."

DEEP_6 ADDED: "The cerebral cortex can not be replaced or replenished; it can not grow back; it can not be transplanted."

DEEP_6 ADDED: "Without a cerebral cortex, an individual ceases to be an individual."

I AM RESPONDING: "How many and what kind of tests have been run to determine exactly WHAT Teri's condition is?"

I AM ADDING: "My husband and I were told by "Almighty-God" Doctors that our newborn daughter would not live more than 26 days--and now she is NINETEEN YEARS OLD!

I AM ADDING: "I was the victim of an aggravated assault and was told after numerous x-rays, a CAT scan, and an MRI that there was NOTHING that several Doctors could see that was causing intense pain below my right eye-cheek area. I DEMANDED that the eye Doctor operate to put in a plate under my eye (I had a blowout fracture) and find whatever was causing my pain. As I was waking up from surgery, the Doctor told my father, husband and me that it is a GOOD thing I DEMANDED that he go in there---that it was "the worst thing he had ever seen"---FAR worse than the scans indicated."

I AM ADDING: "My point is that DOCTORS ARE NOT GODS! Doctors don't KNOW everything!"

DEEP_6 WROTE: "There is a total loss of coherency; the individual is rendered to a vegetated state. There is no chance for any recovery from that state."

DEEP_6 ADDED: "Terri is truly in a vegetated state and has been for 13 years."

I AM RESPONDING: "Are you blind? Have you not seen the videos of her RESPONDING APPROPRIATELY? Have you not heard that when she was told by phone prior to the feeding tube being removed last month that if she didn't get up out of bed that she would be "killed" (or "starved to death"---I don't recall right now which wording was used)---and she RESPONDED APPROPRIATELY---she SUDDENLY and FRANTICALLY STYRUGGLED to JUMP up out of the chair she was in?"

I AM ADDING: "That doesn't sound like someone in a vegetative state to me! So why not give Terri $750,000 worth of REHAB THERAPY that she was awarded---and that "LOVING" Hitleresque-husband Michael POCKETED---from the malpractice law suit? What would it HURT to TRY spending HER REHAB money on HER REHAB THERAPY?"

DEEP_6 WROTE: "Terri had been placed on a feeding apparatus due to her inability to swallow voluntarily. She can not live without that feeding device; that feeding device in the State of Florida is considered a life support system, since the individual can not survive without it's usage."

I AM RESPONDING: "PLEASE GET EDUCATED!!!!! Do you even know what a G-Tube (aka "feeding tube") is????? It is a piece of natural-rubber-colored, stethescope-type tubing which is about 12" long and has either a stretchable or inflatable bulb on the end to keep it inside the stomach. YOU could have one and NO ONE WOULD KNOW---Should we KILL YOU for that?"

I AM ADDING: "It is rolled up and taped to the body and it DOESN'T SHOW from under clothes. At feeding time, the end has a plug in it which is removed and a 60 cc syringe is inserted to "gravity-feed" or the plunger is used to push the food in. THAT'S IT!!!!! There is NO MACHINE INVOLVED!!!!! It is a SIMPLE TUBE! And YOU want to KILL her for just having one!!!!! That's SICK!!!!!"

DEEP_6 WROTE: "Since Terri can not and never will regain any consciousness to allow her to ever converse, or have any voluntary movement, she is considered in a vegetative state."

DEEP_6 ADDED: "Terri has been in this vegetative state for 13 years. Removing her from a life support system is a decision a guardian must decide."

I AM RESPONDING: "See my comment above. Terri is NOT in a "vegetative state"!!!!! She needs her $750,000 of REHAB THERAPY!!!!!"

DEEP_6 WROTE: "No-one remains on a mechanical life support system indefinitely; if there is no chance for recovery, no chance for any coherency, and no chance to ever have the ability to engage a voluntary movement, then forcing a soul to be contained in a lifeless shell of a body is more inhuman; more sacrilegious, that to allow it to pass."

I AM RESPONDING: "I CHALLENE YOU to go talk with PARENTS of mentally and/or physically handicapped kids. Go to a Special Needs School and talk with the teachers. ASK THEM if they believe that there's "no chance of recovery" or "no chance for improvement" or if their children "are worth letting live." I CHALLENGE YOU TO GET EDUCATED!!! I GUARANTEE YOU---the parents and teachers will say they ARE alive and their lives ARE worth living!"

DEP_6 ADDED: "Terri's dead; let her soul rest in peace."

I AM ADDING: "NO! Let's let GOD DECIDE when she is dead! NOT YOU, NOT A JUDGE---GOD!!!

[trussell]

Kinda funny that Terri doesn't seem to understand that she is suppose to be dead. She continues to breathe and maintain her own blood pressure.

Guess maybe someone ought to let her know that she shouldn't be doing that anymore!! /sarcasm!!

[MSCASEY]

I did not see that in the video! I only hear that from MS and his attorney who has stolen the rehab money from Terri's fund. That is why they won't allow any more videos to be taken of Terri!!!!

Don't believe everything you hear!!

MCD

[isatoi]

So if these are the facts, WHY won't her husband give up his rights and allow the parents the oppourtunity to give Terri rehabilitaion efforts?????? If there is no chance that she will ever awake and talk, Why is he so worried?????If the Parents are allowed to TRY to rehabilitate and see then that she can not recover then so be it. But what is wrong with letting them have the oppourtunity to try to rehabilitate her?

[Lion in Winter]

WHEN YOU.... 'DEEP 6 '... SOMEBODY, YOU KILL THEM.

ODD name for a freep handle. Why do you have such a name?

Well, we know you advocate killing Terri, anyway.

That is such a ghoulish name.....oooooooogh!

Know anybody named, Al Capone, Dutch Schultz, Buggsy Seigel, Joey Gambino and so forth?

Do these phrases mean anything to ya?

"Hey! Hand me anotha' bag a' cement ther', Tony" !!! "Hey, watch it ther' Tony you'es rockin' da boat"!

[lula]

you claim Terry has an inability to swallow, yet notice she doesn't drool(sp). explain that!!

SHES NOT DEAD!!!!!!

[stanz]

Deep 6 - - -appropriate screen name.

You obviously haven't been to Terrisfight.org to see film clips of Terri interacting with her mother. If you did, you would not insist she is in a vegetative state despite the fact that pictures of her cerebral cortex are showing dark areas.
There is some dispute as to whether Terri has any ability to swallow her food. At one time, she was spoon-fed. Why not give her the opportunity to learn again? Doctors say it can be done.
As for conversing...did you ever witness films of Dr. Stephen Hawking communicating via computer? He is totally without the use of his hands or speech due to ALS. It is possible for someone like Terri to communicate this way. Perhaps Terri isn't important enough, but she possesses the same capabilities as Dr. Hawking.
Finally, I'm not convinced Terri wants to die. These are words of a husband who has every reason to gain by her death. I would not trust him as far as I could throw him.

[TASMANIANRED]

I cannot speak to the specifics of the Florida law re: life support. However as a nurse with 22 yrs of experience , about 1/2 of the in ICU a feeding tube is in no means considered artificial life support.

Terri's brain stem works, she breathes, her heart beats, she maintains thermoregulation, blood pressure and all normal bodily functions. I have removed life support on more than one patient. Death ensues in under 5 minutes but usually much quicker than than. It is painless usually because the people it is done to are barely clinging to life anyway.

Starvation and dehydration are not painless ways to die, nor is it swift and merciful. It is illegal to starve a worthless , ugly , old, useless mangy dog. Why? Because it is cruel. Civilized people do not contenance the intentional cruelty to living things.

If cognition is required for the perception of pain why do animals howl when they are hurt. Infants are little bundles of sensory impressions but they howl with pain, they have no cognition.

Perception of pain is entirely independent of the ability to reason and think out the source and the meaning of pain.
It is a complete lie to say that because you do not understand pain you do not feel it. Infants in the uterus feel and respond to pain.

You have stated that CSF fluid is dangerous. CSF fluid rather than being dangerous is mandatory for life. It is a cushion, a lubricant. Only elevated intercranial pressures are hazardous and Terri does not have them. Without medical records how do I know this. She is alive, She does not have thermoregulation problems. She does not exhibit doll's eyes, nor does she posture.

Terri can swallow, she does not drool, she swallows saliva all the time. The only reason a feeding tube is placed is 1) to prevent aspiration, 2) to make it easier to manage a debilited patient. Many of the feeding tubes I have seen placed have been for staff convenience. She cannot get the food to her mouth on her own. This makes all high spinal cord injuries candidates for extermination.

Your commends about "mechanical life support" are intentionally misrepresenting the facts. There is nothing mechanical about it. The little latex catheter can be serviced with a funnel and gravity. Mechanical life support denotes a ventilator. Comparing a feeding tube to mechanical life support is like comparing a guppy to a shark.

As far as the quality of life issue involved. No one except Terri has any judgement over that. I once took care of a man in ICU with a PhD in Philosophy, at 17 he had a diving accident and broke his neck. He couldn't feed himself. He had an indwelling catheter, He couldn't wipe his own butt. From my perspective his quality of life sucked. I wouldn't want to live like that. It was not my decision to make.

The husband making these decisions has no credibility. There is a clear conflict of intrest. He profited from her condition and had he succeeded earlier in causing her death he would have profited far more.

I hate to bring up a religious concept but the old Testamant states "Before you were in your mothers womb I knew you". Person hood isn't dependent on your intelligence, your ability to interact with the world, or anything that trivial. Those are secular concepts from a humanist perspective and the concept is entirely ego driven.

A human is not a machine that is thrown away when it no longer serves the owners needs. Human life is inherently valuable in all it's forms. HINO does not own Terri, he has no right to require that she die for his convenience.

As far as Terri's "lifeless shell" this is utterly false.
She breathes, her heart beats, etc. She merely doesn't meet your criterion for a "deserving person".