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Pro-Lifers Link Euthanasia to Abortion
Ifeminist/Fox News ^ | Tuesday, November 04, 2003 | Wendy McElroy

Posted on 11/04/2003 12:55:03 PM PST by presidio9

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:40 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The heartbreaking story of Terri Schiavo, the severely brain-damaged Florida woman who has been kept alive for more than a decade by a feeding tube her husband claims she would want removed, has captured the media's attention.

The significance of the Schiavo story, however, is not just her dramatic circumstances, but the ethical questions that surround the debate over using heroic measures to keep a brain-damaged/brain-dead person alive when that person has not left clear instructions.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; assistedsuicide; braindamaged; euthanasia; murderinc; terrischiavo; wendyhelpskillbabies; wendymcelroy
The hideous possibility of killing an unconsenting, innocent human is present.

This logic goes out the window when we are talking about a possibly viable unborn human being that is an inconvenience to mom, doesn't Wendy? I notice that Wendy gets posted a lot on this site, and it is important for people to understand that while she agrees with us on many feminist issues, she is not really on the same side as us. And while I'm glad to hear that she been "slowly moving towards a pro life position," I wonder "what the heck is the holdup?" And why don't I believe her? I think that if Terri Schiavo's ordeal gets a lot of women to reconsider their position on abortion then her tragedy will not have been in vain. And I think that Terry agrees with.

1 posted on 11/04/2003 12:55:04 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
INTREP - MURDER, Inc, ALERT!
2 posted on 11/04/2003 12:58:11 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: presidio9
Do people have the right to control their own bodies and decide on the sanctity of their life or death for themselves? I say "yes."

What's her point? Terry Schiavo never said she wanted to die.

3 posted on 11/04/2003 1:00:36 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: presidio9
Wendy McElroy is a LIBERTARIAN, not a conservative. Always remember that.
4 posted on 11/04/2003 1:02:40 PM PST by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Clemenza
You are forgetting that the libertarians here all believe that they are the true conservatives.
5 posted on 11/04/2003 1:10:37 PM PST by presidio9 (a new birth of Freedom)
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To: presidio9
Wendy McElroy's logic is inconsistent on many things. She often seems to be working out her own issues in her columns or spouting views meant to provoke a response. I do not know why FoxNews retains her as a columnist.
6 posted on 11/04/2003 1:12:24 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: presidio9

Evil Lesbian Promoter of Baby killing
7 posted on 11/04/2003 1:13:45 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: presidio9
Traditionally, the medical fate of someone like Schiavo -- unable to communicate for over a decade -- would be determined by attending doctors and the legal guardian.

The bigger issue in the Schiavo case is whether the husband should actually be considered the legitimate "legal guardian" of his wife.

Since Michael Schiavo was so certain about what his wife's wishes were regarding medical care for a long-term illness or injury, perhaps he can tell us how she would have felt if he had moved in with a mistress and fathered a child out of wedlock before her injury. I see no reason why a man who has violated his marital vows should be considered his wife's "legal guardian" in any sense.

This, in fact, should be the legal basis on which this case is fought. Before any decision about her medical situation can be decided, Terry Schiavo should be given legal representation by a divorce attorney to first have Michael Schiavo legal declared persona non grata in her life.

8 posted on 11/04/2003 1:23:32 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("To freedom, Alberta, horses . . . and women!")
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To: Admin Moderator
Why did you delete the subheading: "(Wendy McElroy Shows Her Pro-Abortion Colors)"?
9 posted on 11/04/2003 1:48:31 PM PST by presidio9 (a new birth of Freedom)
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To: presidio9; sweetliberty
Euthanasia attorney George Felos and his client Michael Shiavo would love to see Terri's case linked to abortion. Abortion is reliably a divisive issue amongst those whose activism created the groundswell of public support for Terri. It was the remarkable bi-partisan grassroots support that carried Terri's plight all the way to the halls of the Florida legislature.

It's a huge part of George Felos' legal strategy to paint Terri's advocates as "religious extemist right-to-life whackos" (this is the language he and his client assert at every media opportunity). If they can successfully imprint such a distortion onto the beliefs of Joe Sixpack it will marginalize and neutralize Terri's advocates. Some who might otherwise support Terri's right not to be killed will instead retreat into the shadows lest they be painted with Felos' broad brush.

Felos, Schiavo and their complicit judicial accomplices must've celebrated when they read this article today. How sad.

10 posted on 11/04/2003 3:55:43 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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To: Clemenza

DING DING DING!!!! We have a WINNER!!!

Someone else besides me has finally come up with who the pro death trolls on FR REALLY are!! They are Objectivist LIBERTARIANS and NOT Conservatives.

11 posted on 11/04/2003 5:18:06 PM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: presidio9
You are forgetting that the libertarians here all believe that they are the true conservatives.

Yeah, I've noticed that. They have a bad habit of also lecturing to conservative on what conservatives are supposed to think.

12 posted on 11/04/2003 5:22:18 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: lonevoice
Abortion is reliably a divisive issue amongst those whose activism created the groundswell of public support for Terri.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see things that way. This issue has opened the eyes of a lot of women who suddenly are realizing how wrong it is to take a life, even a helpless inconsequential life, as a matter of convenience. The author has been staunchly pro-abortion, and even she admits that this issue is making her see things differently. I pray for Terry, but this issue is much bigger than her at this point.

13 posted on 11/05/2003 6:34:10 AM PST by presidio9 (a new birth of Freedom)
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To: Coral Snake; Hacksaw; Clemenza
Someone else besides me has finally come up with who the pro death trolls on FR REALLY are!! They are Objectivist LIBERTARIANS and NOT Conservatives.

That's because when you look under the hood, libertarianism is actually about one thing: ME ME ME!!!

14 posted on 11/05/2003 6:35:45 AM PST by presidio9 (a new birth of Freedom)
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