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Sean Hannity has a scoop on dem party corruption (Vanity)
Sean Hannity radio show ^ | 11/04/03 | Unknown Democrat (via Sean Hannity)

Posted on 11/04/2003 1:27:18 PM PST by jocon307

Is anyone listening to Hannity? He just read a memo from a dem party staffer (i think) on the select committe on intelligence (or some such), which, as he describes it, shows the the dem committe members are pre-planning a political assault on the pres. and care nothing for our security, which is their job.

He's acting like this is the hottest scoop since I don't know what, I'm at work so I'm only 1/2 listening, plus he read the whole thing which seemed to be a least 2 pages long, a little tough to follow being in beaurocrat-speak.

Is this really important? And will this story grow legs?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004memo; demorats; hannitymemo; intelligence; intelligencememo; patroberts; seanhannity; senatedems
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To: Pukin Dog
Great reply and observations!

It appears to me that whoever started this memo (part of Hillary's tactics?) is using Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals:

“The first rule of power tactics is: power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.”

“The threat is generally more terrifying than the thing itself.”

“The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

Rules for Radicals opens with a quote about Lucifer, written by Saul Alinsky: “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer.”
451 posted on 11/04/2003 3:51:26 PM PST by Maria S ("When the passions become masters, they are vices." Pascal, 1670)
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To: onyx
This is about the senate, not the house.

How do we know?

452 posted on 11/04/2003 3:51:54 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: streetpreacher
calls for getting more information made public

Like changing classified to unclassified before the election. Will it help create more dead soldiers? Hey, it's the election that counts - SUMMERY: "intelligence is secondary...."

453 posted on 11/04/2003 3:52:23 PM PST by concerned about politics ( As a rightous man declarith a thing, so shall it be.)
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To: HarryCaul
Granted this is politics as usual.......but in all the years of the Cold War .....the other party never played with this countrys safety........because of their hatred of the sitting President...

This hatred of Bush could get your family and mine killed........

This won't play in middle America.

454 posted on 11/04/2003 3:52:36 PM PST by Dog
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To: MEG33
Sorry; just got a little frazzled there. Democrats do that to me sometimes.


Patriot Paradox

455 posted on 11/04/2003 3:52:43 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000 (I am the armchair activist. Flamesuit ready, Dr. Pepper flowing. Able to post in a single click.)
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To: Mo1
ALso .. Sean made it a put to tell Sweet Baby James to block out the person who sent it to him when they sent a copy to Roberts. Rockefeller has no clue how Sean got the memo

Exactly right Mo1. Sean has all the cards and he's holding 'em tight to his vest.

456 posted on 11/04/2003 3:54:02 PM PST by onyx
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To: Pukin Dog
Who leaked the memo to Sean.....that is a story.
457 posted on 11/04/2003 3:54:03 PM PST by Dog
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To: Mo1; sweetliberty
U.S. Senate Committee on Intelligence - Members

MEMBERSHIP

REPUBLICANS

DEMOCRATS

Pat Roberts, Kansas
Chairman
John D. Rockefeller IV
West Virginia, Vice Chairman
Orrin G. Hatch, Utah Carl Levin, Michigan
Mike Dewine, Ohio Dianne Feinstein, California
Christopher S. Bond, Missouri Ron Wyden, Oregon
Trent Lott, Mississippi Richard J. Durbin, Illinois
Olympia J. Snowe, Maine Evan Bayh, Indiana
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska John Edwards, North Carolina
Saxby Chambliss, Georgia Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
John W. Warner, Virginia

458 posted on 11/04/2003 3:54:25 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Masked Conservative
QUICK! - TO THE BATCAVE!
459 posted on 11/04/2003 3:54:39 PM PST by princess leah
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To: mewzilla
Sean said the memo came from SIC staffer.
460 posted on 11/04/2003 3:54:49 PM PST by onyx
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To: dead; Maria S
See 451. I told you, Hellary has a signed-in-blood contract with Lucifer.
461 posted on 11/04/2003 3:55:21 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: mewzilla
Very good point. How far is the tentacles on this thing and what places of government does it reach. if it from the DNC (good chance) then does Clinton have a fingerprint on it?

Heading to class! Ping me please if it gets more developed.


Patriot Paradox

462 posted on 11/04/2003 3:55:39 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000 (I am the armchair activist. Flamesuit ready, Dr. Pepper flowing. Able to post in a single click.)
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To: streetpreacher
The fact that this memo is coming out from the Dems on the bipartisan Select Intelligence Committee, regardless of whether or not they're actually using classified information, seems to me to be very significant, as well as a potential tipoff that there could be worse out there. (You just *know* that if the shoe were on the other foot the Dems would be playing this memo for all it's worth.) This wasn't something out of DNC HQ. Anyone using critical thinking skills can see the possible implications :).
463 posted on 11/04/2003 3:55:46 PM PST by GOPrincess
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To: onyx
. Sean has all the cards and he's holding 'em tight to his vest.

YEP .. He said that only him and Sweet baby James knew gave it to him

464 posted on 11/04/2003 3:56:06 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: onyx
Did Sean say if he could tell if the memo had been sent?
465 posted on 11/04/2003 3:56:15 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
An office connected to the staff on an Intelligence Committee doesn't use a shredder?

Scarier than I first imagined.

466 posted on 11/04/2003 3:56:39 PM PST by Shermy
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To: nicmarlo
Wasn't Fienstein swatted down by the other DEMS today over something??
467 posted on 11/04/2003 3:56:53 PM PST by Dog
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To: Wait4Truth
We also need Ann Coulter
468 posted on 11/04/2003 3:57:08 PM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: Dog; Pukin Dog
Who leaked the memo to Sean.....that is a story.

I would die laughing IF it was Leaky Leahey .. LOL

469 posted on 11/04/2003 3:57:15 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: mewzilla
Fox News (Brit & Company) think this LEAKED MEMO is no big deal. I assume that the "MAJOR" news networks won't even bother reporting this.

What SHOCKS me is that NO ONE reads the part of the memo that states catagorically that NO MATTER what the outcome of the investigation is, THE DEMOCRATS, will BLAME the Republicans for a UNFAIR investigation and demand an "INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION". In other words THE PRESENT investigation MATTERS NOT ONE WIT!! Unfortunately this story will ONLY have legs if Sean Hannity HAS MORE than he is letting on that he knows.

470 posted on 11/04/2003 3:57:45 PM PST by PISANO
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To: Mo1
Hope the memo is in a safe and that Sean has body guards. Dems can be wicked when riled.
471 posted on 11/04/2003 3:58:22 PM PST by madison10
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To: Shermy
Intell Committee has always been an oxymoron to my mind. And I fully support 43's not wanting to tell any of them anything more than he absolutely has to.
472 posted on 11/04/2003 3:58:23 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
"I can't, for the life of me, see the difference."

Nothing in this memo suggests they are going to use classified information against the President. Basically, it says they're going on a fishing expedition, looking for evidence that the administration exaggerated or distorted intelligence claims about Iraq. And, as an earlier poster noted, they can spin it to look like they are working on behalf of the American people to expose lying by the administration. But their real motive, of course, is just to cause trouble for Bush, even if it hinders the effort in Iraq and encourages Saddam's diehards to ever more extreme tactics. But this would never technically qualify as offering "aid and comfort" to the enemy in a legal, prosecutable sense. We can't make traitors out of every critic of the administration's foreign policy.
473 posted on 11/04/2003 3:58:31 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: GOPrincess
OHhh you are so right! Can you even imagine the howling by the Dims if this situation were reversed? The righteous indigation and demands for multiple investigations and possible criminal charges??

Prairie

474 posted on 11/04/2003 3:58:32 PM PST by prairiebreeze (God bless our coaltion troops. And their families because they are soldiers too.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Oh,I liked "the memo fairy" question!
475 posted on 11/04/2003 3:58:39 PM PST by MEG33
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To: mewzilla
Did Sean say if he could tell if the memo had been sent?

He didn't say

When Roberts said it didn't come from the Committe, Sean asked if he knew for sure .. or something like that

476 posted on 11/04/2003 3:58:42 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Dog
Mara has an excuse for everything, doesn't she?
477 posted on 11/04/2003 3:59:32 PM PST by Neets (Obsession, it's not just a fragrance anymore.)
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To: PISANO
I couldn't believe FNC's panel. If things have degenerated to the point to where this is business as usual during wartime, God help us.
478 posted on 11/04/2003 3:59:32 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Dog
I honestly don't know, Dog.....I had to work sans talk radio, as usual, today. And then I am quite often "deprived" of listening to FOX news at night... : (
479 posted on 11/04/2003 4:00:00 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: truthkeeper
He said the reason he's on with Sean right now is because his phone started ringing off the hook and he was told by another member that he'd better get on with Sean to clear the air.

Ah, the power of New Media.

*basks in warm glow*

480 posted on 11/04/2003 4:00:04 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Neets
Sean did good with this one....
481 posted on 11/04/2003 4:00:29 PM PST by Dog
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To: Steve_Seattle
Nothing in this memo suggests they are going to use classified information against the President. Basically, it says they're going on a fishing expedition, looking for evidence that the administration exaggerated or distorted intelligence claims about Iraq. And, as an earlier poster noted, they can spin it to look like they are working on behalf of the American people to expose lying by the administration.

Clinton used the same info to bomb Iraq. We should drag that out before the people, plus the Democrats quotes who supported him.

482 posted on 11/04/2003 4:00:54 PM PST by concerned about politics ( As a rightous man declarith a thing, so shall it be.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Who declassifies? Because if the senate can declassify its own intell product...Surely you can see the can of worms this opens, can't you? Especially if the Pubbies on the committee are little more than useful idiots.
483 posted on 11/04/2003 4:01:08 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Mo1
Sean knew more than Roberts. Good gad.
484 posted on 11/04/2003 4:01:42 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: onyx
Fox News downplayed it so we'll have to wait to see if Sean will reveal who gave it to him and who wrote it.
485 posted on 11/04/2003 4:01:52 PM PST by Wait4Truth (Anyone that doesn't support Bush over these morons hates America!)
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To: PISANO
That's the whole point of this leaked memo. That the independent investigation was unavoidable and politically motivated, and it's in writing, so it's now undeniable. Whoever was stupid enough to write that down should be drummed out of politics.

There will be no independent investigation now, that's the outcome.

I dunno if that was Hannity's true goal, but that's the role he's played.

486 posted on 11/04/2003 4:02:09 PM PST by HarryCaul
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To: mewzilla
things have degenerated to the point to where this is business as usual during wartime, God help us

You are correct, they treat it almost as a JOKE. The really SAD thing is that BRIT'S show is the best that TV has to offer, IMHO

487 posted on 11/04/2003 4:02:09 PM PST by PISANO
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To: PISANO
The SUMMARY in the memo says this, which REVEALS the whole purpose of the memo:

"SUMMARY: Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet we have an important role to play in revealing the misleading, if not flagrantly dishonest, methods and motives of senior administration officials who made the case for unilateral preemptive war."

488 posted on 11/04/2003 4:02:25 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Pukin Dog
You give the dems too much credit.
489 posted on 11/04/2003 4:02:42 PM PST by b4its2late (My only flaw is that I'm perfect.)
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To: mewzilla
If things have degenerated to the point to where this is business as usual during wartime, God help us

As this memo demonstrates, it has degenerated to that point, as least for the Democrats. (changing tagline in disgust!) Prairie

490 posted on 11/04/2003 4:03:27 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by The American Democratic Party, also known as Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: jocon307
A great scoop.
Will it have legs?
Only with Hannity and us, the major media will ignore it, as they will be part of it.
491 posted on 11/04/2003 4:03:37 PM PST by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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To: Hellsbane
BINGO!!!!!! We have a winner!!!!!
492 posted on 11/04/2003 4:03:40 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: nicmarlo
The Dems sound just like Islamists on a jihad, don't they?
493 posted on 11/04/2003 4:03:47 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla; Mo1
I will bet Roberts is one ticked off dude right now.......this memo shows him to be a dupe.......a BIG DUMB DUPE who got rolled.
494 posted on 11/04/2003 4:04:03 PM PST by Dog
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To: Wait4Truth
I think Sean will not say one word regarding his "source" --- he'll trap the lying democrats.

Can you imagine the committee members vetting their respective staffs as I type this? Like roaches running when the lights come on.
495 posted on 11/04/2003 4:04:18 PM PST by onyx
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To: concerned about politics
Sean has a copy of the original. It has a header on the top of the paper. He knows who's office it came from.

You know this for sure? If so, this is hugh and very series!!!
496 posted on 11/04/2003 4:04:24 PM PST by demkicker
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To: Dog
It will all depend on how it gets handled by talk radio. The press can say all it wants about how this is just politics as usual but the fact remains: the RATS are attempting to destroy a President fighting a war at the expense of the security of the country. This plot is disgusting, dangerous and unethical at the very least.
497 posted on 11/04/2003 4:04:36 PM PST by Wait4Truth (Anyone that doesn't support Bush over these morons hates America!)
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To: Wait4Truth
Sean said there would be more on H&C tonight...perhaps he'll address this further now that the Fox panel has shrugged over it.
498 posted on 11/04/2003 4:04:49 PM PST by GOPrincess
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To: Dog
Did you hear him (Roberts) on Hannity?
499 posted on 11/04/2003 4:04:53 PM PST by b4its2late (My only flaw is that I'm perfect.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
At a time when American soldiers are dying on an almost daily basis, this politicization of the Iraq situation may not sit well with the public.

Absofrikinlutely.

500 posted on 11/04/2003 4:05:02 PM PST by My back yard (Not in my bow do I trust, nor does my sword bring me victory.)
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