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Text of the Democrat Memo
Fox News ^ | 11-05-03 | Some Dem!

Posted on 11/05/2003 12:42:05 PM PST by jmstein7

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

2) Assiduously prepare Democratic "additional views" to attach to any interim or final reports the committee may release. Committee rules provide this opportunity and we intend to take full advantage of it. In that regard, we have already compiled all the public statements on Iraq made by senior administration officials. We will identify the most exaggerated claims and contrast them with the intelligence estimates that have since been declassified. Our additional views will also, among other things, castigate the majority for seeking to limit the scope of the inquiry. The Democrats will then be in a strong position to reopen the question of establishing an independent commission (i.e. the Corzine amendment).


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004memo; crime; dems; elections; frontpage; government; intelligence; rockefeller
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1 posted on 11/05/2003 12:42:05 PM PST by jmstein7
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To: jmstein7
Good post!

Makes you wonder what else they've been doing.
2 posted on 11/05/2003 12:45:15 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Their 'war room' is still operational - just moved to NY. They really aren't concerned about the WOT, just their WOBush.
3 posted on 11/05/2003 12:46:56 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
You're right!
4 posted on 11/05/2003 12:48:12 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: jmstein7
Bob Graham?

Head of Senate Intelligence Committee on Iraq.
Leaked information to the press in an attempt to discredit GW this past year.
Claimed to have dirt on GW that would hurt his re-elect bid.
Quit his re-elect Senate bid recently.


He's vacating his senate seat in Florida. The memo said an independant investigator...Has Bob teamed up with Klayman, who is running for Florida Senate?
5 posted on 11/05/2003 12:54:11 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: jmstein7
Why is anyone wasting time on who leaked the name of the CIA wife of the Clintonoid sent to Niger.

Let's find out who drafted this memo and who it was sent to!
6 posted on 11/05/2003 1:07:57 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: jmstein7
"We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority"
7 posted on 11/05/2003 1:18:33 PM PST by jonatron (For Great Justice)
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To: TC Rider
"Why is anyone wasting time on who leaked the name of the CIA wife of the Clintonoid sent to Niger.

Let's find out who drafted this memo and who it was sent to!"

Maybe it's the same person.
8 posted on 11/05/2003 1:21:10 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: jmstein7
Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet, we have an important role to play in the revealing the misleading -- if not flagrantly dishonest methods and motives -- of the senior administration officials who made the case for a unilateral, preemptive war. The approach outline above seems to offer the best prospect for exposing the administration's dubious motives and methods.

I'm pretty sure the word insurgency is used incorrectly here. There is no uprising or revolt against the standing government. There has been a total annialiation of the previous, corrupt government and liberation of the oppressed people of Iraq. The author of the memo is talking out of his league and knowledge.

9 posted on 11/05/2003 1:23:09 PM PST by in the Arena (Richard Thomas Kastner - KIA - Phuoc Long, South Vietnam - 15 November 1969))
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To: jmstein7
Summary

Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet, we have an important role to play in the revealing the misleading -- if not flagrantly dishonest methods and motives -- of the senior administration officials who made the case for a unilateral, preemptive war. The approach outline above seems to offer the best prospect for exposing the administration's dubious motives and methods.

I'm betting the National Media will use this closing statement to show that the Democrats are simply trying to bring Bush's bad decision to light. It will not be seen for what Sean Hannity feels is high treason.

10 posted on 11/05/2003 1:24:20 PM PST by FLCowboy,
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To: jmstein7
Great post! Does anyone else feel that the stilted, almost "communistic" cadence to this memo sounds like it was authored by the Dims' favorite little socialist, HRC? Read some of Shrillary's earlier manifesto's and they are indistinguishable from Marx or Lenin. This memo has the same "feel" to me. JMHO.
11 posted on 11/05/2003 1:36:41 PM PST by alwaysconservative (Democrats recycle: bad ideas, bad policies, bad people.)
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To: khenrich
It will not be seen for what Sean Hannity feels is high treason.

Why does Hannity think that congressional oversight motivated by partisanship is treason?

12 posted on 11/05/2003 1:41:18 PM PST by GoGophers
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To: jmstein7
I'm hardly an expert and could certainly be missing some of the subtleties here, but this memo doesn't look especially damning to me. It doesn't prove anything more than that the Democrats are playing hardball and that they have a strategy.

It also looks like some of the allegations made during yesterday's hype regarding the content of the memo were off-target.

For instance, it has been alleged that the memo recommended the contrasting of administration claims with *classified* intelligence estimates, but the memo actually recommends that *declassified* intelligence be used for this purpose. That's a world of difference.

Also, this line,

Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq.

has been interpreted as showing Democrat willingness to subordinate "intelligence issues" to the possibility of scoring political points -- as though they were saying "screw the intelligence concerns, we have political hay to make!". But this interepretation doesn't make sense given the line that follows it,

Yet, we have an important role to play in revealing the misleading -- if not flagrantly dishonest methods and motives -- of the senior administration officials who made the case for a unilateral, preemptive war.

The key is in how the term "intelligence issues" is interpreted. Hannity and others are interpreting this to mean the possible harm that will be done if certain intelligence is brought into the open and used against the administration. But if you read carefully, you'll see that that's not how it is used in the memo. Instead, whoever wrote the memo uses "intelligence issues" to mean the administration's overestimations of Iraqi WMD's and other flawed intelligence leading to a hasty move towards war etc, etc.

With this in mind, you can see that what the memo is actually saying is "Even though the intelligence issues (i.e. the overestimation of the WMD threat, etc) aren't weighing on the public's mind as heavily as the present situation on the ground in Iraq, still we have a role to play in revealing these issues..."

And this doesn't add up to the Dems playing dirty ball, IMO. I think this is much ado about not much.

13 posted on 11/05/2003 1:53:36 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: jmstein7
We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority.

Translation: We're on a fishing expedition.

14 posted on 11/05/2003 1:54:10 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Proud member - Neo-Conservative Power Vortex)
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To: Yardstick
Exactly what I thought after reading the memo
15 posted on 11/05/2003 1:56:15 PM PST by GoGophers
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To: GoGophers
Yeah, I was pretty disappointed when I read it. I thought it was going to be a nuclear bomb.
16 posted on 11/05/2003 2:01:11 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"Has Bob teamed up with Klayman, who is running for Florida Senate?"

Personally, I think Bob Graham saw this coming and headed for the hills.

I called his DC office and also Nelson's DC office. I told them point blank that if one single American is killed from here on out, it would be because they jeopardized US---the ones that PAY THEM--to play partisan politics. I had 100 copies of this memo printed out and I just got back walking from door to door until I ran out of them with a simple message:

"This "memo" isn't about being a Democrat or a Republican. This memo is all about being an American---whose security and safety we now know is secondary to the very people that are "supposed" to be looking out for our best interests but instead are planning what the best plan would be to undercut our President while we are at war. Read this memo, then call the 800 # for our two Senators, Bob Graham and Bill Nelson and tell them you want a stop put to this partisan politicking that might just cost us another 3,000 or more lives. After you've done that, than call everyone you know and show them this memo. "

Amazingly enough, when people actually read the memo, they were livid. I walked for 2 hours, but it was worth every second. 100 more people know about this memo than did at 2:15pm this afternoon.

If you wanna talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk.

I'm tired of this BS in Washington and I think that many people--a lot more many---are angrier than the Dems think they are. They are completely underestimating the power and patriotism of United States citizens. Sure, we may disagree on different issues, but when the lawmakers of our country start putting us in jeapordy, than it's time for "heads to roll".

As far as Bob Graham and Larry Klayman heading this up, I don't think that will ever happen because I think it would difficult for the two of them to take an Oreo Cookie apart and put it back together again. As far as the leak of the woman's name who works for the CIA is concerned, I think the media is overlooking who really put that woman in danger by naming her: ROBERT NOVAK.

17 posted on 11/05/2003 2:01:54 PM PST by DJ88 (Some Things in Life You Can't Buy; For Everything Else, There's Democrats)
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To: Yardstick
I think the most important point is that the majority has been suckered into assisting these creeps. HEY GOP don't cooperate with these RATS in ANY way. If they want the answer to a question tell 'em to go pound sand. Or ignore it altogether. Or run them around in circles.
18 posted on 11/05/2003 2:16:30 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: DJ88
NO ONE put that woman in danger. Her only danger is tripping and falling while walking in the bowels of the bureacracy.

Don't fall for the mythology. She was not/is not/never shall be any kind of secret operative. This is just another RATmedia LIE.
19 posted on 11/05/2003 2:19:32 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: DJ88
You did good. Thanks.
20 posted on 11/05/2003 2:25:31 PM PST by snopercod (My Indian name is "Runs With Chainsaw".)
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