Miller on Politicized Intelligence Memo: ‘Heads Should Roll’ (MUST READ)

Senator Zell Miller News Release ^ | 5 Nov 2003 | Senator Zell Miller

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[The Wizard]

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[4CJ]

Sort of like Reagan saying that he didn't leave the party - it left him, but at the end of his elective career rather than at the beginning.

I like Zell, but his party left him a long time ago.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

Quite a list. But it's been only 34 months that he has been in office, not 36. So the list should be longer by then.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

Bad poll. Both are negative. No one is suprised by what the Democrats do anymore, hard to be outraged if you expect it.

[The Wizard]

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[ItsTheMediaStupid]

Read somewhere that now the memo has be attribeted to Rockefellr' office. most assume with that in mind that someone in his office wrote it.

So if he can't keep this secret what other secrets are leaking out of his office? We should demand that his aid be fired and that he is taken off the National Security committe.

[antiliberal]

Agreed. I'd trade two RINOs for one Zell Miller any day of the week.

[NautiNurse]

John Edwards has been out of the loop with his national tour. He's out of the Senate race too.

[Xthe17th]

The fact that the chairman supports our investigations...

Is this referring to Rockefeller, DemocRAT chair on the Intelligence Committee?

[Xthe17th]

Refers to Republican Chairman - WHO IS HE? (must be a damn RINO!)
Rockef***er is VICE-Chair?

[NarniaSC]

Zell has evolved toward a pro-life position. He voted (with John Breaux, Ben Nelson, and Harry Reid) against affirmation of Roe v. Wade. This vote was a symbolic Democratic CYA move tied to (I think) the last Clinton-era PBA ban attempt.

Zell would be very electable nationally as a Democrat, but with a ACU rating consistently around 50, I doubt many Freepers would really be any more willing to punch his chad than McCain's.

[Landru]

"I've already noticed a lot of righteous indignation in an attempt to put the blame on Bush for even this memo."

Ahhhh the old accuse the accuser shtick.
James "Serpent Head" Car-vile's contribution to the political landscape.

"You could see that the Dems all got their talking points this AM as they've skipped the "drag them along" portion to the call for an Independent Council."

The 'Rats, they're good.
The present pack are the result of decades planning, of course.
Unbeknownst to you cw, I'd said on another thread (with respect to this horrendous example of treason) it'd be "fun" sitting back & watching "our guys" prosecute this to the nth degree.
Well after some thought -- & in light of our track record & lack of backbone dealing with the rodents -- I'd like to withdraw the word, "fun."
It'll -- in all likelihood -- be more akin to having a tooth pulled.

"If this is truly going to be an investigation over intelligence failures, than Republicans need to bring up the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, Al-Shifa in Sudan, 100,000 mass graves and Racak in Kosovo, CLinton's reason for bombing Iraq on 4 separate occasions...etc., etc."

Won't matter.
You, me, most normal & honest people are concerned with honesty, right v.s. wrong & our integrity.
None of that's in *play* here though, & hasn't been since around '93 & the election of the biggest criminal ever to hold the office of POTUS.
Concepts such as "shame," "patriotism," "honor," "truth," "integrity," "conscious," & just about anything else a decent person would hold *dear* went clear out the window; all, to accomodate a lying, raping, & in all probability murdering thief.
Those concepts were *all* replaced with *one* word cw, "win."

The Clinoccio slimeball's legacy on our nation's psyche can only be compared to being sprayed by a skunk & the subsequent foul never fading stench that lingers on ad nauseum.

"It's amazing that Clinton could literally wag-the-dag for 8 months as he attacked 4 soverign nations..and not a peep from the Dems over Clinton's intelligence."

Yes it is amazing, it's also painfully sad when one puases to consider exactly what that kind of behavior by our constitutional "watchdogs" imply for the entire nation & her culture.

"But all of the sudden, Bush enforces a unanimous UN Resolution, supported by intelligence from that same UN and numerous intelligence agencies around the world, and he supposedly lied? Was the Democratic authored 1998 Iraq Liberation Act also a lie...where several Democrats made the same...and even more specific claims about the threat Saddam posed."

Yup, you got it.
Hit every point, in order, save Somalia et al.
Can't argue a thing you've said even if I had a mind to play devil's advocate.
Maddening, isn't it.

"This is just complete BS and it has to be exposed for what it is."

I'm sorry but if by "exposed" you mean accurately & honestly reported by 9 of 10 lamestream media outfits?
Then you're setting yourself up for a lot of woe, my friend.
Ain't gonna happen.
Never.
Ever.
Fini.
Period.

No, I should think *a* way to handle this present pack of Liberal-Socialist 'Rats & their sycophant quisling media would be to first *isolate* 'em & then, ignore 'em.

That's precisely how Clintigula handled "demands" by various & assorted investigative bodies et al; &, funny how his defiance never seemed to hurt the lech one bit, did it?

So I've just gott ask.

...*why's* Bush feel compelled to respond to 'em?

[RetiredArmy]

I agree with you, don't misunderstand me, I am a southern born and bred. I just happen to live in the frozen hell of WA state right now till my wife retires from her job. Then we are moving to Wyoming. However, I think Miller could have done a much better bang up job if he had come over to the republicans and helped them with their majority more. It would have shown even more conservative dems what the dems were really becoming when a dem senator bolts for the otherside because of the garbage. I just would not want the (D) next to my name under any circumstance, especially when you feel the way he apparently does.

[cwb]

Yep...he should just ignore them. Hell, like you said, Clinton did it on everything from Whitewater to CF violations...and his party was even in the minority. This memo actually gives them cover to do just that since it looks like they are out to get him. And who can forget...Bush still has the majority. Let's just hope our spineless congress-critters go along with the game plan.

[Landru]

"Let's just hope our spineless congress-critters go along with the game plan."

That's what I'm waiting to see; but, truthfully I ain't expecting too much from the gutless pack of weasels, either.

Still?

...I always enjoy a good *surprise*. {g}

[Mudboy Slim]

"This is just complete BS and it has to be exposed for what it is."

"I'm sorry but if by "exposed" you mean accurately & honestly reported by 9 of 10 lamestream media outfits? Then you're setting yourself up for a lot of woe, my friend. Ain't gonna happen. Never."

Fortunately, the worm has turned and America no longer depends upon "9 of 10 lamestream media outfits" for exposing fraud by the Leftists...that Reagan movie gettin' $#!+-canned by CBS was a watershed event, imho!! And despite the VastLeftWingMedyuhWhore'd's ever more blatant bias, GOPers continue to win elections...the RATS have lost the control over the dissemination of information that they held for soooo many years!!

Sooner the Right realizes this, the sooner we can ignore the Network RATS and go about making solid conservative gains--legislatively--by utilizing our newfound Power in the AlternativeMedyuh!!

FReegards...MUD

[Southack]

"Though this list is shorter, I believe that these acts outweigh much of the good that he did. If he follows through on his promise to sign an extension of Clinton's AWB, regardless of the reason, he will not get my vote again."

Wow, so your little "list" outweighs mine?! Which means that in your opinion, if Bush had only agreed with the Kyoto Treaty, signed on to the International Criminal Court, and vetoed the ban on Partial Birth Abortions, all would be fine so long as he vetoed the extension of the Assault Weapons Bill.

You're on the wrong forum, buddy.

[Badray]

"Wow, so your little "list" outweighs mine?! Which means that in your opinion, if Bush had only agreed with the Kyoto Treaty, signed on to the International Criminal Court, and vetoed the ban on Partial Birth Abortions, all would be fine so long as he vetoed the extension of the Assault Weapons Bill."

Slow down. You must be drinking the KoolAid with the caffeine in it.

Those 3 particular items that you list above were good. Though any American president should have done them, not all of them would. But a lot of what he has done exceeded the legitimate role of government and he spends like a democrat. You have a nice spin on your long list, but if you are honest, you will agree with what I say even if you don't agree with my conclusion.

"You're on the wrong forum, buddy."

Re-read the purpose of this forum and tell me if you still believe that. I agree with JR that the GOP represents the best chance to achieve our goals, but I will not be blind to the wrongs of this president or any other politician. I am Republican in the REPUBLIC sense of the word, and a Constitutionalist. That will put me at odds with Bush and the GOP at times. So be it.