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Judge Lets Parents Challenge Custody of Terri Schiavo
Tampa Bay Online ^ | November 5, 2003 | AP

Posted on 11/05/2003 3:32:32 PM PST by sweetliberty

CLEARWATER, Fla. (AP) - A state circuit judge Wednesday refused to block an effort by the parents of a brain-damage woman to try to get her husband removed as her legal guardian. Attorneys for Michael Schiavo now have to respond in court to charges in the petition that he withheld proper care and therapy from his wife, Terri Schiavo, and that he has a conflict of interest because he's in a romantic relationship with another woman.

Bob and Mary Schindler, parents of Terri Schiavo, asked Circuit Judge George W. Greer to appoint Terri's brother or sister as guardian instead.

Schiavo had asked for the Schindler's request to be dismissed, but Greer refused.

In the past, Greer has repeatedly affirmed Michael Schiavo's legal right to remove Terri Schiavo's feeding tube and allow her to die, as he says she would have wished.

The guardianship issue is a sidebar to what is likely to be a major legal battle over a hastily passed state law that let Gov. Jeb Bush order the reinsertion of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube Oct. 21.

Michael Schiavo's attorney, with backing by the American Civil Liberties Union, has challenged the constitutionality of the law.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: guardianship; judgegreer; michaelschiavo; terrischiavo
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Wonderful news!
1 posted on 11/05/2003 3:32:35 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
Gotta agree, whats the harm in letting her parents take care of her. Oh wait, she might get better and someone might go to jail.
2 posted on 11/05/2003 3:36:19 PM PST by Stopislamnow (It will be too late when we're all dead. And the way our government is going, it'll be soon.)
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To: sweetliberty
Praise God!
3 posted on 11/05/2003 3:36:55 PM PST by TruthConquers ("Who will liberate us from these tyrants of secularist tolerance?")
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To: sweetliberty
The "evil" and "murderous" Judge Greer is being fair.

Whodda thunkit?

4 posted on 11/05/2003 3:37:25 PM PST by george wythe
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To: sweetliberty
and that he has a conflict of interest because he's in a romantic relationship with another woman.

Yes ---- very very wonderful news!

5 posted on 11/05/2003 3:42:10 PM PST by FITZ
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To: sweetliberty
I am really tired of this whole Terri soap opera. I can't decide who is worse - the family or the husband. I think they should all grow up and settle their differences outside the courtroom.

By the way, who is paying all these legal fees and what axe do they have to grind.
6 posted on 11/05/2003 3:46:28 PM PST by CHUCKfromCAL
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
Terri's Army ping to GREAT NEWS....I know some of you have already seen it, but just in case. Looks like Mikey's got some 'splainin' to do!

If you want on or off of this ping list, please let me know.

7 posted on 11/05/2003 3:47:48 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Terri may survive yet. Thank the Good Lord.
8 posted on 11/05/2003 3:47:48 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
You really ought to inform yourself. There are voluminous threads that detail everything you could ever want to know about this case, who is paying what, who got paid what, and so on. Otherwise your opinion is based on thin air. Just read the Terri threads for a couple of hours, and you will be more informed than the vast majority of people who get their "news" from Teev.
9 posted on 11/05/2003 3:50:06 PM PST by First Amendment (Hi relatives! Why not register on FR and join the debate?)
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To: sweetliberty
When you can't find the motive, look for the money. Michael Schiavo undoubtedly has a pricey life insurance policy, but "that darn wife" just won't die. Why else would he be so upset about her living? If she really is "brain dead", she wouldn't care about her body being kept alive. How could she "care" about anything, if her brain truly is "dead"?

He could walk away from all this in exchange for severing his financial resposibility for her. Her parents would certainly agree to that and donations would pour in from accross the country to pay her hospital bills......but that darn life insurance lottery pay-off he's waiting for would just go uncollected, wouldn't it?

"Follow the money" ---- Deep Throat

10 posted on 11/05/2003 3:50:18 PM PST by You Gotta Be Kidding Me
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To: sweetliberty
Praise the LORD!
11 posted on 11/05/2003 3:56:57 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: sweetliberty
I think Greer now has to acknowledge all the factors involved. This never was just a case of letting Terri die. There's collusion, distortion and general neglect of the facts and the conduct of Michael Schiavo which has been suspect from the beginning.
12 posted on 11/05/2003 3:58:33 PM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
If you are tired of the 'soap opera' don't tune in.

As to who's paying???...Terri is paying to have herself killed and the parents aren't charging you, so why should you care?

13 posted on 11/05/2003 4:04:33 PM PST by Krodg (a proud member of the 'Godsquad')
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To: sweetliberty
Great news! As long as the Schindler's petition for removal is pending, Terri's feeding tube may not be removed. I hope I'm not wrong.
14 posted on 11/05/2003 4:06:34 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: sweetliberty
This is awesome news!

Wouldn't it be fantastic after all these years they finally can take care of Terri.

I can't remember if it was Terri's brother or Mr. Schindler say on one program that there are doctors that have actually offered rehab services for free if they could ever get Terri.

15 posted on 11/05/2003 4:08:13 PM PST by Lanza
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
I am really tired of this whole Terri soap opera. I can't decide who is worse - the family or the husband. I think they should all grow up and settle their differences outside the courtroom.

Fortunately for Terri and her family, it really doesn't matter what you think. Enough people got tired of the Elian Gonalez story to allow him to be deported. The only way to settle this out of court would be for the parents to let the husband have his way.

16 posted on 11/05/2003 4:13:09 PM PST by webheart (Citizen's Grammar Patrol)
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To: webheart
Hot answer to a very cold post.
17 posted on 11/05/2003 4:16:16 PM PST by Republic
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To: sweetliberty
OH MY GOODNESS.....PRAISE YOU FATHER GOD......PRAISE YOU FOR A ANSWER TO PRAYER. !!!!!!!!!!!! DANCING, SINGING HERE, SO EXcited.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
18 posted on 11/05/2003 4:20:24 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: george wythe
The "evil" and "murderous" Judge Greer is being fair.

God is able to change the vilest heart!! PRAISE GOD and thank you Judge Greer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

19 posted on 11/05/2003 4:22:45 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: sweetliberty
I had not read this yet! Thanks for the ping! It is very good news! I will be glad when it is done and they change the Gaurdian.

MCD

I liked your troll alert! They seem to be out in force lately!
20 posted on 11/05/2003 4:27:05 PM PST by MSCASEY
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To: You Gotta Be Kidding Me
I'm for letting him off all financial responsibility --- as long as he can prove that $700,000 meant for her care actually went to provide her care ---- otherwise he still owes her.
21 posted on 11/05/2003 4:30:18 PM PST by FITZ
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To: sweetliberty
and the Attorney ad littem says....?
22 posted on 11/05/2003 4:31:00 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: All
please freep this poll for Terri:


http://www.wftv.com/news/2614426/detail.html
23 posted on 11/05/2003 4:34:37 PM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
Are you sure you are on the right forum??? The DU website will take your comments and carress them!!Take them there! This is more than money.......it is a LIFE!!! We value life or we SHOULD, here in the USA!!
24 posted on 11/05/2003 4:34:48 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: sweetliberty
BOOKMARKING FOR HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AND FOR YEE HAW!!!
25 posted on 11/05/2003 4:41:02 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
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To: msmagoo
Hospice was very peaceful today. If bad stuff was going on there, me thinks there'd be more police presence. Three weeks ago, there were squad cars everywhere. Because Terri's supporters were non-violent, peaceful, well meaning, kind, patriotic Americans, that countered the other side's attempt to portray "who was coming to hold vigils as right wing wackos."

THE TRUTH WILL SET TERRI FREE.

26 posted on 11/05/2003 4:44:45 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
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To: sweetliberty
Wonderful news, and very unexpected after the setback with the ALCJ. Keep praying, people - and keep digging.
27 posted on 11/05/2003 4:45:47 PM PST by dandelion
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To: dandelion
This is the playoffs. We haven't made it to the Super Bowl yet. Keep digging is right.
28 posted on 11/05/2003 4:47:34 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
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To: sweetliberty
"Wonderful news!"

The Power of Prayer !!!!

29 posted on 11/05/2003 4:48:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: floriduh voter
BOOKMARKING FOR HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AND FOR YEE HAW!!!

ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still dancing and singing!!!!!!!! I sure would love to be in the court when The Schindlers attorney argues that having a live in girl friend, two children, are a CONFLICT of INTEREST!!!!

30 posted on 11/05/2003 4:50:23 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: You Gotta Be Kidding Me; MarMema
"When you can't find the motive, look for the money."

We have a motive, and it is not money for anyone but Schiavo.

The global death culture is sponsoring this murder to usher in Nederlands style 'euthanasia' here.

31 posted on 11/05/2003 4:53:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
I am really tired of this whole Terri soap opera. I can't decide who is worse - the family or the husband.

The husband is obviously a nut.

He demanded 8 or 9 guards for what he calls a "houseplant."

32 posted on 11/05/2003 4:57:43 PM PST by syriacus (Casual comments about tubes, made after watching a 3 handkerchief movie, do not justify euthanasia.)
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To: Krodg
Terri is paying to have herself killed and the parents aren't charging you, so why should you care?

This gets my vote for quote of the day

33 posted on 11/05/2003 4:58:41 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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To: pollywog; sweetliberty; george wythe
GW: The "evil" and "murderous" Judge Greer is being fair.

Polly: God is able to change the vilest heart!! PRAISE GOD and thank you Judge Greer!

Did I detect some sarcasm in GW's post? While I fully believe that God is able to change hearts, my guess is that Judge Greer changed his TUNE because of (the short list): The glaring spotlight, FReepers, public opinion against the death culture, possible review of his previous rulings!

This is very good news indeed!

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34 posted on 11/05/2003 5:07:06 PM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: EternalVigilance
AMEN!!!! God is still working the miracle. We must all be faithfully praying and praising his name!
35 posted on 11/05/2003 5:07:12 PM PST by atruelady
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To: lonevoice; Krodg; JohnHuang2
"Terri is paying to have herself killed and the parents aren't charging you, so why should you care?"

"This gets my vote for quote of the day"

ROTFL! Yes, that was excellent!

36 posted on 11/05/2003 5:12:32 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
But with Greer again?? Unless he's realized how screwed he is if he doesn't switch sides here, this case probably won't get them anywhere. This is the same judge who has ruled over and over and over in favor of the husband.
37 posted on 11/05/2003 5:14:41 PM PST by honeygrl (Surgeon General's Warning: This FReeper hasn't slept through the night in over a year.)
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To: FITZ
Not only does he have a conflict of interest because of this relationship with another woman -- he has effectively engaged in conduct that precludes him from laying any claim to the fact that he is still Terri's husband. Step #1 in this process should be the appointment of legal counsel for Terri Schiavo so that divorce proceedings (on the grounds of persistent and open marital infidelity) can be initiated against Michael.
38 posted on 11/05/2003 5:16:05 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("To freedom, Alberta, horses . . . and women!")
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To: editor-surveyor
The global death culture is sponsoring this murder to usher in Nederlands style 'euthanasia' here.

A+! Schiavo's a greedy thug with the (apparent) maturity of a preschooler, but Mephisto-Felos is pure walking death. The issue is much bigger than Mike and his money and his chickie.

39 posted on 11/05/2003 5:16:50 PM PST by Tax-chick (Right-wing Internet wacko)
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To: Stopislamnow; TruthConquers; FITZ; Saundra Duffy; pram; You Gotta Be Kidding Me; ...
For anyone who might have missed this quote from another thread, apparently someone who was in the courtroom said that this was Judge Greer's words:

"Michael, no way am I going to dismiss their lawsuit, furthermore you need to come back into court and answer two of their claims. Tell the court #1 how you have provided good medical care for her, #2 why you don't have a conflict of interest because you are fooling around with another woman."

I think Mikey may have some 'splainin' to do, you reckon?

40 posted on 11/05/2003 5:25:13 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: lonevoice
Thank you.
41 posted on 11/05/2003 5:29:55 PM PST by Krodg (a proud member of the 'Godsquad')
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To: sweetliberty; floriduh voter; All
Sent to me from a nonFReeper friend:

Wait you GOTTA see how Jeb Bush is stalling Felos with manuvers galore! I just LOVE IT!!!!

::snip::

Attorneys for Bush were given until Thursday to file their own arguments supporting the law, but instead filed the motion to dismiss Wednesday. Attorney Kenneth L. Connor, representing Bush, said the governor is not shying away from judicial review of the statute, but that proper procedure must be followed first.

Connor said that starts with having the lawsuit filed in Tallahassee and having the governor properly served.

"The governor has the right to a home venue privilege," Connor said. "As you can imagine, this is not the only lawsuit brought against the governor, so if you wind up forcing the governor and the staff to trot all over the state, that winds up being an extraordinary consumption of state resources."

Felos said his lawsuit was faxed to Bush's office, and counsel for governor was present at the emergency hearing Oct. 21 and did not raise those concerns.

"It's almost unbelievable that the governor of our state and someone who we hope would show some integrity and leadership would resort to such a low and trashy legal move in this case," Felos said.

Connor said the governor's motion was not a delaying tactic.

"Mr. Schiavo could have avoided the delay had he simply complied with the rules," Connor said. "If there's a delay as a result of the way in which this case has been handled it's because of the way in which Mr. Schiavo's lawyers conducted themselves, not the governor."

Connor also disputed Felos' claim that Bush improperly stepped into the business of the state's courts.

"This is not an encroachment on the judicial powers," he said. "What this is an extra added layer of protection that the Legislature passed to help assure that the lives of the disabled and their health care choices are in fact protected and respected."

::end snip::

Gawd it is good to see someone finally make that worm Felos squirm.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/103-11052003-191688.html
42 posted on 11/05/2003 5:32:29 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: sweetliberty
"Michael, no way am I going to dismiss their lawsuit, furthermore you need to come back into court and answer two of their claims. Tell the court #1 how you have provided good medical care for her, #2 why you don't have a conflict of interest because you are fooling around with another woman."


43 posted on 11/05/2003 5:34:42 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: honeygrl
"This is the same judge who has ruled over and over and over in favor of the husband."

But that was before there were so many people watching, and before a lot of dirt started coming out from under his rug. Now that this case has aroused the public interest, he might be paying a little bit closer attention to detail. Perhaps he really was ignorant (granted, by choice) of a lot of the facts and he has now been confronted with them by angry Americans. Maybe he is backpedaling to save his own #$$ or maybe he figures it's good PR and will get overruled somewhere else. It's even possible that God changed his heart. At this point, I don't really care what his motives were for doing the right thing. I only care that he did.

44 posted on 11/05/2003 5:35:08 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Wow! Great news! I hadn't heartd this.
45 posted on 11/05/2003 5:37:11 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: EternalVigilance
As you know, there's nothing trashy about Jeb Bush, contrary to Felos' unsolicited opinion.

All was fine at Hospice this afternoon. Of course, we'll all feel better when Terri is placed somewhere licensed to treat chronic illness.

46 posted on 11/05/2003 5:37:21 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
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To: EternalVigilance
"It's almost unbelievable that the governor of our state and someone who we hope would show some integrity and leadership would resort to such a low and trashy legal move in this case," Felos said.

Pot, meet kettle! ROTFL! That is just too good!

47 posted on 11/05/2003 5:42:02 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: EternalVigilance
*WHISTLES, CHEERS, SHOUTS*

I love seeing the demons mocked, especially by their own tactics! I knew the governor's people weren't sitting on their hands. Go Jeb! Kick some serious litigious #$$!

48 posted on 11/05/2003 5:46:59 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
For anyone who might have missed this quote from another thread, apparently someone who was in the courtroom said that this was Judge Greer's words:

"Michael, no way am I going to dismiss their lawsuit, furthermore you need to come back into court and answer two of their claims. Tell the court #1 how you have provided good medical care for her, #2 why you don't have a conflict of interest because you are fooling around with another woman."

WOHOOooooooooo Sounds like God has been speaking to the heart of Judge Greer!! God is answering our prayers. I have been praying for that Judge!!!!!!!!

49 posted on 11/05/2003 5:49:27 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: sweetliberty
For anyone who might have missed this quote from another thread, apparently someone who was in the courtroom said that this was Judge Greer's words

It is almost certainly not Judge Greer's words verbatum. It's somebody's interpretation of what Judge Greer said. As to how closely it resembles what he actually said, I have no idea.

BTW, if the judge is trying to follow the law, he should also ask why Michael's behavior isn't a violation of (section number) that prohibits guardians from engaging in sexual cohabitation. Actually, this would be the spot I'd more expect Greer to focus on, if anything, since it would leave him an "out". After all, Judge Greer has previously found that Michael was providing appropriate care for Terri, and that he had no conflicts of interest. For him to change stance on his issues would be for him to go against his earlier rulings. On the other hand, if he were to find that Michael's violation violated Florida guardianship statutes, he could maintain that his earlier rulings were correct but that Michael should be removed as guardian because of the formerly-unaddressed issue.

50 posted on 11/05/2003 5:49:29 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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