[scouse]

Probably none of the retirees in Florida voted for GW in 2000.

Perhaps you should re-check your facts. In 2000 it was because of the retirees that Florida went Republican. Sumter County voted republican for the first time since reconstruction. Don't judge all Fl retirees because of a few ex-New Yorkers who live in Palm Beach County.

[Grampa Dave]

Worrying about losing the over 65 vote in Florida, Arizona and other areas is like worrying about losing the black inner city voter or the illegal alien vote in California.

One of these days we will see how much double dipping voting is done by these over 65 snow bird types. Just like the college age voters, who vote straight Rat in the town where their college/university is and absentee ballot in their home town. The numbers will amaze conservatives and the rats will lose another voting group that is illegal.

The retirees have completely changed the politics in Arizona. Arizona has gone from conservative to a state that elected a Jake Reno Clone for governor.