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USC: Bush not helping hopes for democracy
Daily Trojan: the student newspaper of the University of Southern California ^ | November 9, 2003 | Fahad Bishara

Posted on 11/09/2003 9:49:29 PM PST by gipper81

Just when democracy was finally gaining the momentum it needed, President George W. Bush went and stuck his foot in his mouth once again. In his speech to the National Endowment for Democracy, the president spoke as eloquently as he could of the push for democracy in the Middle East and, in doing so, inadvertently undermined the efforts of any democratic hopeful in the region.


http://www.dailytrojan.com/article.do?issue=/V150/N53&id=01-bush.53v.html

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; mideast; military; muslim; usc
Fahad Bishara's column "It's Your World" runs on Monday. To comment on this article, call (213) 740-5665 or e-mail dtrojan@usc.edu.

1 posted on 11/09/2003 9:49:29 PM PST by gipper81
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To: gipper81
It's an interesting op/ed piece by a Kuwaiti student at USC. He's written a cogent set of opinions and his interpretation is based upon his experience and emotions.

I feel for him, but his selection of words is not an accurate representation of the White House strategy... and he neglects to understand the fact that without the Bush defense of Kuwait, he would have no nation to be from.
3 posted on 11/09/2003 9:58:44 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: boochicken

boochicken
Since Nov 10, 2003


4 posted on 11/09/2003 10:00:09 PM PST by gipper81
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To: bonesmccoy
I agree. Even though our military spending on a %GDP basis is nowhere near what it was in the 1980s, it still was enough to save Kuwait.
5 posted on 11/09/2003 10:02:59 PM PST by gipper81
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To: boochicken
"I concede there are democratic reforms necessary in the Middle East; however, when I am back home in Kuwait, I take comfort knowing that I am able to send e-mails to my friends without having to worry about them being read by authorities."

I am not worried about my emails being read here, so whats this goofs problem? Lets be serious, to "concede" that the regions need democratic reforms is like looking over the Sahara and saying it has a couple of grains of sand.
6 posted on 11/09/2003 10:05:05 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: bonesmccoy
Strange how nuanced and demanding of democratic perfection this Arab can be.

The US has never claimed to be a perfect democracy. In fact, we proudly wave our banner of imperfection, our flaws - to the world.

It's amazing that societies that rip the tongues out their citizens throats-or treat women like cattle- can demand perfection of us before they are willing to act.

Perhaps at least the debate itself is a positive sign of something positive germinating.

7 posted on 11/09/2003 10:08:40 PM PST by zarf (..where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment?)
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To: gipper81
The other problem with his op/ed is that he compares our military budget to other middle eastern nations.

Straight comparisons are not appropriate. After all, our military is deployed in many nations... we have many hot and cold fronts... so naturally our budget is higher... we have to protect ourselves from the entire planet!
8 posted on 11/09/2003 10:10:44 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: gipper81
USC stinks, I have a personal reasons for resentment of the school, but suffice it to say that I don't respect anything that anyone from the school has to say.
9 posted on 11/09/2003 10:12:45 PM PST by Eva
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To: bonesmccoy
Western vs. eastern comparisons, logic, statistics, etc. "Can't we all just get along?"
10 posted on 11/09/2003 10:12:47 PM PST by gipper81
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To: Pikamax
"I concede there are democratic reforms necessary in the Middle East; however, when I am back home in Kuwait, I take comfort knowing that I am able to send e-mails to my friends without having to worry about them being read by authorities."

Wait, In the USA we tell you you may have emails read but in Kuwait they just read them and don't tell you they are reading them !

Big Difference hey?

11 posted on 11/09/2003 10:15:27 PM PST by america-rules (I'm one proud American right now !)
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To: zarf
"Perhaps at least the debate itself is a positive sign of something positive germinating."

Correct!

If this guy is at USC, it tells me a few things... despite his antagonistic view towards the Bush Administration, this "student" is able to enjoy the freedom of self-expression... which is an intoxicating feeling when raised in a culture which does not permit such expression.

After graduation, he will either (1) return to Kuwait with a new found respect for political expression or (2) join the US liberal media and continue the view taught him as a journalist in a US university.

If he continues his career, he might also end up working for Al Jazeera or some other "fair and balanced" news source.
12 posted on 11/09/2003 10:18:01 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: america-rules
America Rules! Yes it does

N o w t h a t s A t h r e a d !!

13 posted on 11/09/2003 10:21:26 PM PST by GeronL (Visit www.geocities.com/geronl)
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To: gipper81

Just when democracy was finally gaining the momentum it needed, President George W. Bush went and stuck his foot in his mouth once again. In his speech to the National Endowment for Democracy, the president spoke as eloquently as he could of the push for democracy in the Middle East and, in doing so, inadvertently undermined the efforts of any democratic hopeful in the region.

Although a large part of what Bush said in his speech was salient, there was one particular instance in which Bush opened his mouth up a little too wide.

Bush told his audience there were "essential principles" to a good democracy. These principles, he added, include a limited state and military power, safeguarded rule of law, a free civil society, including an independent media, religious liberty, open markets, and political rights for women.

The question begs to be asked: does the United States have a good democratic government? If we go by the President's criteria, then the answer is an unfortunate "no."

First and foremost, anyone will agree that the U.S. government and military is a far sight from limited. More money is spent on the military in this country than in most other industrialized nations in the world combined. Skeptical? According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies, the United States spent close to $379 billion in 2003 on its military.

Compare this to the military expenditures of decidedly non-democratic nations: $18.7 billion in Saudi Arabia, $7.5 billion in Iran, $1.8 billion in Syria, $1.2 billion in Libya, and only $31 million in communist Cuba. Indeed, one must note that the U.S. role as a world superpower does require greater involvement in world affairs, but must also wonder whether or not such involvement is characteristic of a good democracy.

Though one must note the obvious differences between the political freedoms that one enjoys in the United States as opposed to other parts of the world; one must also make note of the drastic change in political climate since 2001. Recent measures taken such as the PATRIOT Act and other post-9/11 measures are comparable to measures taken by Iran, Cuba and Libya under the guise of national security.

I concede there are democratic reforms necessary in the Middle East; however, when I am back home in Kuwait, I take comfort knowing that I am able to send e-mails to my friends without having to worry about them being read by authorities.

As for safeguarding rule of law, one only needs to look at the cases behind many of those detained in Guantanamo Bay. Countless inmates have been denied their basic rights both as detainees and as American citizens.

In the case of Jose Padilla, the alleged "dirty bomber," it was reported that officials attempted to stop Padilla from meeting with his lawyers, a right later granted to him by U.S. District Judge Michael Mukasey. In an article that appeared in France's Le Monde newspaper early this year, Pakistani Mohammed Sanghir reported that officials at Camp Delta beat him, shaved his head and beard (which, to many Muslims, bears strong religious significance), and was initially not allowed to pray.

Moreover, after he was determined to be innocent, he was only given $100 compensation for every month he had spent there, as opposed to the $400 a month he was initially told he would get. Both of these cases illustrate the obvious disregard for the rule of law by the Bush administration.

This ties in directly with Bush's claims that good democracies guarantee religious liberty. This was obviously not the case for Sanghir and is debatable when applied to other Muslims in the United States.

Any Muslim can tell you that after the attacks on the Twin Towers and during the campaign against Afghanistan, religious freedom for Muslims in the United States decreased considerabl; epitomized by the subsequent security measures targeting those from the Islamic world and the rise in hate crimes against Muslims. According to an FBI report in 2001, hate crimes against Muslims rose by 1,500 percent.

But let us not lament — four out of eight isn't that bad.

Despite having delivered the speech to a group that champions democratic gains around the world, Bush's speech probably did more to hinder the spread of democracy than to help it. The clear disassociation of the Bush administration from the "essential principles" of a good democracy severely weakens his call for democratic reforms in the Middle East. His recent war campaign in Iraq amidst deafening cries of protest, both domestic and international, did little to boost his popularity in the international realm. Moreover, increasingly stupid remarks by members of his administration — namely the inflammatory comments made by Gen. William Boykin, who likened the U.S. battle against terror to a battle between Christianity and the Muslim world and openly stated that Bush was in the White House because God put him there — have severely tarnished the administration's image, especially in the Arab world. It may be of added interest that Boykin has not yet been asked to resign.

In his speech, Bush remarked, "the global wave of democracy has barely reached the Arab states." If this wave bears the face of Bush and his administration, it will be a long time before the Arab world bathes in the waters of democracy.

14 posted on 11/09/2003 10:43:56 PM PST by SubMareener
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To: america-rules
Actually, I already knew the internet had weak security... in fact we knew PRIOR to the internet existing.
15 posted on 11/09/2003 10:52:39 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: Eva
Eva, Eva...Lots of perfectly nice SC Freepers with sound ideas:~) Wish I had known some when I was there.
16 posted on 11/10/2003 12:21:31 AM PST by lainde
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To: lainde
This is not surprising. I was there during the first criminal election of Bill Clinton, and I couldn't believe how such a "conservative" university could allow campus Democrats to absolutely run roughshod over the Young Republicans in election activism. It was sick. It's still a very powerful and conservative alumni network, though...

Alas, on to New Orleans.

Fight on.


17 posted on 11/10/2003 5:16:27 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Eva
Saddam is a Bruin...
18 posted on 11/10/2003 5:17:51 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever; lainde
Saddam is a Bruin.

When I lived in Orange county, the LA Times ran an article about date rape at USC, saying that 80-90% was committed by Arab students who didn't understand the American mores.

19 posted on 11/10/2003 7:46:12 AM PST by Eva
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