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Howard Dean, Serious Threat, Says Christopher Ruddy
Newsmax.com ^ | 11-10-03 | Ruddy, Christopher

Posted on 11/10/2003 7:57:43 AM PST by Theodore R.

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To: Theodore R.
I think the only serious threat Howard Dean poses is to himself.

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21 posted on 11/10/2003 8:25:37 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Wphile
I agree..I think they both underestimated Dean's appeal to the large left fringe in the primaries...and the fact that he could win both Iowa and NH...six months ago, that wasn't in the cards....that's why they're going nuts now..
22 posted on 11/10/2003 8:26:20 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Theodore R.
There's certain kinds of white guys who resonate with self-identifying "black" voters. Clinton was one, maybe sui generis. Dean, I bet, is another. The teeth. It's the teeth.
23 posted on 11/10/2003 8:29:19 AM PST by bvw
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To: GulliverSwift
It's not as early as you think. The nominating process as a whole takes place much earlier than in 1976. At this point, Dean is the frontrunner and leads in the most important category -- money.

That said, a lot can still happen, as you say.
24 posted on 11/10/2003 8:31:54 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: NutCrackerBoy
I saw him on Russert,you are giving him way to much credit.
25 posted on 11/10/2003 8:32:50 AM PST by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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To: Theodore R.
all these thread on FR lately about the election of 2004 being "over", you folks are way too optimistic. The Dems start with 40-43% of the vote, and that base will stay with them, even in the face of some of the unreal things their candidates have said. 9/11 has changed only a small fraction of minds in the US, we have to accept that. Granted, even a small swing helps our side, but the 2004 election will not be a cakewalk, almost all of the states that went for Gore will go for Dean.
26 posted on 11/10/2003 8:35:39 AM PST by oceanview
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To: bvw
The only reason the Dems have continued to toloerate the Clintons is due to the fund raising. No we have learned that Hillary doesn't share and Dean has found another way to get his bucks.

The Clintons are exposed here at several levels and they have more than a few reasons to torpedo Dean's campaign.

27 posted on 11/10/2003 8:36:52 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Nonstatist
Dean will be easy to run against.

Conventional wisdom can be wrong. GA Jimmy Carter said he wanted to run against Reagan because Reagan would be a "pushover." GWHB tought that Clinton would be easy pickings too, for a while. At least ol' Barry Goldwater knew from the start that he could not defeat LBJ but ran to support the conservative movement. Dean may be much stronger than people expect. Which of the 20 Gore states is Dean likely to lose? That is a tough questions to answer. Maybe NM, but I am not sure that the GOP can take NM next year.
28 posted on 11/10/2003 8:45:15 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: ken5050
Dean is a serious threat ....... Yes, indeed, particularly to hillary.
29 posted on 11/10/2003 8:46:17 AM PST by desertcry
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To: oceanview
Oh, I agree and certainly the Bush campaign doesn't think this will be a cakewalk either. I was at a campaign meeting the other day and all the talk was, "this is going be another razor thin margin of victory." There is no room for complacency whatsoever.
30 posted on 11/10/2003 8:50:19 AM PST by Wphile (Keep the UN out of Iraq)
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To: oceanview
The 2004 election will not be a cakewalk.

I know, but will it be a quagmire, or just a slog? While we're at it, is Dean really an imminent danger, or just grave and gathering?

31 posted on 11/10/2003 8:54:03 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy (son of a ...)
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To: oceanview
Dems start with 40-43% of the vote

It may be more than that. Dukakis got 46 percent; Gore, Jr. 48.5 percent.
32 posted on 11/10/2003 8:54:27 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
The bad news is that the U.S. economy is rebounding, sharply.

This is either an example of very poor writing or naked bias on the part of Christopher Ruddy.

33 posted on 11/10/2003 8:55:11 AM PST by mac_truck
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To: mac_truck
Ruddy is a good writer, but we all slip up from time to time when writing in volume. When he sad "bad news," he meant "bad" for the Democrats.
34 posted on 11/10/2003 8:56:08 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: mac_truck
The context was clear: This past week, Dean had some good news and some bad news.
35 posted on 11/10/2003 8:56:49 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy (son of a ...)
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To: Theodore R.
For the first time, NewsMax talked with the folks who know Dean best, the people of Vermont.

What we learned is surprising and worrisome for Republican prospects next year, especially if the economy is not back on track by that time.

I spoke last week with a friend of mine who lives in Vermont, he's a staunch Bush supporter but he is also a fan of Dean. He argues that Dean is no Dukakis, he's clashed with liberals often as Governor.

36 posted on 11/10/2003 8:57:51 AM PST by GO65
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To: Nonstatist
Dean has been calling for the COMPLETE reversal of Bush's tax cuts, including those for the "middle class". You dont get the clear majority of the liberal base to support you unless you say all the things liberals want to hear, and how far can he backtrack? I think Ruddy is wrong, Dean will be easy to run against.

How is it "liberal" to argue that the massive costs incurred in the war on terror ought to be paid for via taxes instead of via borrowing from the Chinese as we are currently doing? Is it "conservative" to fund the largest debt in U.S. history by borrowing from the Chinese?

37 posted on 11/10/2003 8:59:31 AM PST by GO65
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To: Wphile
However, his current campaign suggests neither of these.

In primaries Dems run to the left, Republicans run to the right. In the general election they converge in the middle. This is politics.

38 posted on 11/10/2003 9:00:31 AM PST by GO65
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To: Theodore R.
Dean has one big negative, Hillary does not want him to win.
39 posted on 11/10/2003 9:03:27 AM PST by Eva
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To: Theodore R.
Uncle Remus touting the perils of the briarpatch, again.
40 posted on 11/10/2003 9:27:35 AM PST by Old Professer
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