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Dr. Dean and Dixie
King Features Syndicate ^ | 11/19/03 | Charley Reese

Posted on 11/15/2003 8:55:17 AM PST by WoofDog123

Dr. Dean And Dixie

Dr. Howard Dean was born in New York City and has spent his life there and in Vermont. I guess he's about as Yankee a Yankee as you can get. Yet he reached out to Dixie and got burned by his fellow Democrats.

The thing to note is that Dr. Dean first made his remark about wanting the votes of guys with Confederate decals on their pickup trucks at a meeting of national Democrats about three months ago. His remarks drew thunderous applause.

It was only after he became a front-runner that his tag-along rivals decided to raise a stink. One opined that Dean was stereotyping Southerners. Another accused him of being a racist. It was all much ado about nothing.

Most people knew immediately what Dr. Dean meant by his Confederate remarks. He knows that unless the Democratic Party appeals once more to working men and women in the South, it will remain a minority party of extreme feminists, extreme environmentalists, silk-stocking socialists and the professional civil-rights crowd who live in comfort around the Washington Beltway. I think he wants to revive the Democratic Party of Harry Truman.

While it is fashionable for Democrats now to say they are fiscal conservatives and social liberals, they need to understand that most Southerners are social conservatives and fiscal liberals. Nobody embraced Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal more warmly than the South. While most Southerners are opposed to abortion on demand, to gay marriage, pornography, etc., they are extremely patriotic and not at all unwilling to accept federal aid for their communities and for themselves.

As for race, I don't think it is any longer an issue with most white Southerners. As I mill around with white Southerners and hang out with the Confederate flag folks, I never hear any racist jokes or snide remarks about blacks. In fact, the subject never comes up. Of course, there is a minority of bigots, but my guess is you could put every member of the Ku Klux Klan in the Southern states in one small gymnasium. Still, I can speak only from a white perspective. Blacks might see the situation differently.

As for the Confederate flag, its meaning, like that of all symbols, is in the eyes of the beholder. I don't begrudge the fact that some blacks see it as a racist symbol. Some yahoos used to wave it, though it seems to be forgotten that the same yahoos also waved the American flag.

To me, the Confederate flag is a symbol of the valor of the Confederate soldiers who fought well to preserve the constitutional republic. I know the official PC version today is that the war was all about slavery, but it wasn't. As Alexander Stephens said, "Slavery was the question but not the principle." But that's a subject that will probably be debated forever.

At any rate, I'm sorry that some people are offended by the Confederate flag, but no one has a constitutional right to not be offended. Yet people who revere the Confederate flag do have a right to display it, whether others find it offensive or not. That is a free-speech issue. We can't have a free society if we're going to censor anything that offends us.

Personally, I don't think most blacks give a hoot about the Confederate flag one way or the other. In the referendum on the Mississippi flag, which incorporates the Confederate flag, folks voted overwhelmingly to keep it, and about 30 percent of the blacks who voted also voted to keep it. The flag was a big issue for liberal white politicians and chamber-of-commerce types, but apparently was no big deal for ordinary Mississippians, both black and white.

The working men and women of America of all races know they have more important things to worry about than historic flags and monuments. I wish Dr. Dean had stuck to his guns and not apologized. You can't appease an insincere critic by apologizing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; charleyreese; confederate; confederateflag; dean; dixie; reese; southernstrategy
The DNC has, through the inertia of its own drift to the left, written off the south (except possibly FL)
1 posted on 11/15/2003 8:55:18 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123
They're making a big push for North Carolina this year. Between the usual Democratic voting blocs (in particular the thousands of really ignorant college students in the Triangle) and the equally-massive numbers of disgruntled unemployed, I'd say they have...uh...a rat's hinder's chance of deposing W, and a fifty-fifty chance of holding their Senate seat.
2 posted on 11/15/2003 9:13:28 AM PST by warchild9
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To: WoofDog123
DNC to south: Drop Dead
3 posted on 11/15/2003 9:15:52 AM PST by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: WoofDog123
Anent, the Confederate Battle Flag:

There is one point that Mr. Reese misses when discussing whether the Stars and Bars Flag is reasonably objectionable to Blacks. At least some of the states that now have the Confederate Battle Flag incorporated into their state flags only incorporated that flag into their state flags in the face of the Civil Rights Movement and the desegregation fights of the early 1960's. Of course, and without exception, those states that adopted the Confederate flag as a part of their state symbols, did so at the behest of and through the Democrats who not only controlled, but who dominated the legislatures, the governorships, and the entire political structures of the southern states at the time.

With that at least semi-modern lineage, it should not be surprizing that Blacks sometimes take issue with that symbol.

I believe that many people think that the Confederate Flag is a symbol of slavery that ended nearly 150 years ago and that is the reason that it offensive to some. If that is the only complaint, then it would be an easy matter to refute, at least to rational people.

It is much more difficult to justify the incorporation of the Confederate Battle Flag into state flags as a symbol of the fight against the Civil Rights Movement and the desegreation efforts that are still fresh in the minds of many people, white and black in the American South.

Do most people, white or black, remeber the modern history of these flags or understand the differences between the arugment? I doubt it. The Dems do not want to remind anyone that it was their party that incorporated the Confederate Battle Flags into modern state flags in an effort to trumpet their opposition to allowing Blacks to vote, etc.

4 posted on 11/15/2003 9:28:46 AM PST by Backwoods Southern Lawyer
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To: WoofDog123
You might be a metrosexual redneck if:

... you put 'mudders' on your New Yorker.

5 posted on 11/15/2003 9:35:59 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Backwoods Southern Lawyer
The Dems do not want to remind anyone that it was their party that incorporated the Confederate Battle Flags into modern state flags in an effort to trumpet their opposition to allowing Blacks to vote, etc.

Not to mention that the Confederacy itself was a one-party Democratic government.

6 posted on 11/15/2003 9:41:36 AM PST by Restorer
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To: WoofDog123
Charlie Reese defending Dean. Yeah, what a conservative.
7 posted on 11/15/2003 9:43:34 AM PST by aynrandfreak
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To: Backwoods Southern Lawyer
The present-day Mississippi flag, confederate emblem and all, has been the state's flag since 1894.
8 posted on 11/15/2003 10:19:11 AM PST by bourbon
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To: Backwoods Southern Lawyer
The "Stars and Bar" and the Confederate "Battle Flag" are two entirely different banners.
9 posted on 11/15/2003 10:31:29 AM PST by varina davis
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To: WoofDog123
If what the Doctor did was reach out: I would hate to think what would happen if he had embraced.
10 posted on 11/15/2003 10:33:25 AM PST by freekitty
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To: WoofDog123
(A parody of "Dixieland')

Oh I wish I was in the land of cotton,
Democrats there are now forgotton,
Look ahead, look ahead, look ahead,
Dixieland

11 posted on 11/15/2003 10:35:36 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Backwoods Southern Lawyer
I bet not 1 in 5 americans below the age of 30 could tell you which party lincoln belonged to, and I cannot see the DNC having any realistic fear of the fact that they were and still are (though somewhat reversed) the racial segregation party ever being brought openly into public discussion. Many americans are not educated in any recognizable sense of the word.

Notably, Mississippi adopted the current flag in 1898, unlike most if not all other former-CSA states, which did so in the 50's or 60's.

12 posted on 11/15/2003 10:43:21 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123
At least Dean is trying. Albeit very akwardly.
13 posted on 11/15/2003 11:28:59 AM PST by Reagan79 (Pro Life! Pro Family! Pro Reagan!)
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To: varina davis
Live and learn. You are absolutely correct.

check out this site:

http://www.confederateflags.org/

Thanks for the education.
14 posted on 11/15/2003 12:09:37 PM PST by Backwoods Southern Lawyer
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To: TonyRo76
That's about the biggest oxymoron I've ever seen.

Here's a picture of him.

You might be a metrosexual redneck if:

... you use Oxyclean to whiten your teeth.

16 posted on 11/15/2003 5:21:55 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: WoofDog123
I have found over the years that no matter how often students are taught that "Lincoln was the first Republican president," most students will still identify Lincoln as a "Democrat," probably because it sounds to them that the "Great Emancipator" must have been Democrat.
18 posted on 11/19/2003 6:58:39 AM PST by Theodore R.
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