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Seven million died in the 'forgotten' holocaust
Toronto Sun ^ | 11/16/03 | ERIC MARGOLIS

Posted on 11/16/2003 10:05:24 AM PST by freedom44

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To: freedom44
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41 posted on 11/16/2003 11:10:19 AM PST by MayDay72 (Communism kills. Free markets feed.)
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To: lavrenti
It is amazing how many young conservatives are unaware so spread the word here!Are you a red"diaper baby"?
42 posted on 11/16/2003 11:10:42 AM PST by MEG33
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To: freedom44
The genocide(s) in Stalin's Soviet Union were preceded by firearms prohibition. Armed humans would prefer to die fighting than starvining to death in a state-orchestrated famine.


http://www.jpfo.org

43 posted on 11/16/2003 11:12:25 AM PST by society-by-contract
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To: freedom44
Worthwhile site to know, to throw in the face of Leftist.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
44 posted on 11/16/2003 11:15:04 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: Essie
Why history has overlooked it, I do not know.

"History" has overlooked it because historians and journalists tend to be socialists or communists. They protect their own.

45 posted on 11/16/2003 11:15:04 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Petronski
Everyone, each one of us, should buy and read this book, so that there should never be any doubt:


Below is a good review of The Black Book of Communism:


http://www.jpfo.org/wolfe-blackbook.htm

46 posted on 11/16/2003 11:15:49 AM PST by society-by-contract
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To: caltrop
The VHS is available on Amazon.com. I just ordered one. Thanks for the info.
47 posted on 11/16/2003 11:18:13 AM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: lavrenti
I understand that both Churchill and Roosevelt had to work to build consensus within the government and with the people before taking action. That's one advantage that dictatorships will always have over republican governments. Consensus is not required for action when one party holds all the cards.

Sometimes we must negotiate with evil to survive. Where our leaders in government and the media failed was in making the people aware of the evil we were bargaining with at the time. The communists were indeed deeply rooted in the media and the government at high levels. The fact that this story is so "new" shows the hold that they still have.

48 posted on 11/16/2003 11:22:50 AM PST by eggman (Social Insecurity - Who will provide for the government when the government provides for all of us?)
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To: mollynme
Glad to know it's still available. I taped it at the time but haven't looked at it in a number of years and, once I do, may need to order another copy.
49 posted on 11/16/2003 11:26:07 AM PST by caltrop
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To: MEG33
I've heard of that book, but never read it.

However, as a kid, I had a socialist uncle who defected to Cuba, and he sent me constant streams of propaganda, communist texts, books on Marxism/Leninism, and various left-wing guerilla warfare manuals - It was pretty fascinating for a young kid to read this stuff. I learned to read russian a little in order to digest some of the stuff that wasn't in english LOL

Then, researching on my own, I began looking closer at history, and I was able to see clearly that not only was Communism evil, but was able to see how amazing they were at manipulation of the masses - it scared me, in fact...

I became, much to the disappointment of my uncle, a fervent anti-communist, and it was really his fault - the "too-good-to-be-true" stuff he was sending me made me look closer, and that is what did it - looking closer.
50 posted on 11/16/2003 11:31:12 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I would be considered quite a catch in some circles... Crop Circles...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The NYT Herbert Matthews was Castro's Duranty.He called him an agrarian reformer.I think your experience with the literature of the utopian Communists gives you a better perspective on how they work.
51 posted on 11/16/2003 11:36:42 AM PST by MEG33
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To: MEG33
"Agrarian Reformer" - much like Pol Pot, eh? ;0)
52 posted on 11/16/2003 11:38:42 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I would be considered quite a catch in some circles... Crop Circles...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
They are simply trying to give power to the people!(The ones left after mass murder,starvation,executions,and mass imprisonment).Did I forget slave labor and reeducation programs?
53 posted on 11/16/2003 11:45:00 AM PST by MEG33
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To: freedom44
Robert Conquest wrote about the collectivization famine, and calculated that each LETTER in his book was 20 lives lost. His book is 411 pages long.
54 posted on 11/16/2003 11:45:36 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (SSDD - Same S#it Different Democrat)
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To: MEG33
Maybe we should infiltrate some leftist protests sometime and have signs that read "POWER TO THE (SURVIVING) PEOPLE!" heh heh heh
55 posted on 11/16/2003 11:49:36 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I would be considered quite a catch in some circles... Crop Circles...)
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To: freedom44
I worked with a young woman in her mid-20's who told me her grandparents were from Ukraine. I told her I bet they had some stories to tell, but she didn't know what I meant. She knew nothing of the starving of the Ukraine. I guess it's just something they didn't want to talk about, and it wasn't passed on.

I knew that my own great grandparents came here during the potato famine in Ireland, which was a starving-out on a smaller scale. But that's all I knew, my grandparents didn't talk about it. Looking back, I wish they had talked a lot more. Maybe it was just too painful for them?

56 posted on 11/16/2003 11:51:16 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: FreedomPoster
informative link - thanks
57 posted on 11/16/2003 11:57:05 AM PST by Puddleglum
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To: freedom44
But you know Augustus Pinochet and Francisco Franco are much worse. I mean they are the embodiment of pure evil in all left leaning households throughout the world
58 posted on 11/16/2003 12:05:14 PM PST by BBell
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To: BBell
Much worse how?Number killed,imprisoned,starved?
59 posted on 11/16/2003 12:09:55 PM PST by MEG33
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To: MEG33
Would you know sarcasm if it hit you in the face? Oh, and I forgot to mention that evil Joe McCarthy guy. Talk about pure evil. He had the nerve to actually insinuate that commies are bad and trying to take over. It sends chills down my spine just thinking about it.
60 posted on 11/16/2003 12:32:39 PM PST by BBell
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