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Judge calls Terri's Law intrusive
St. Petersburg Times ^ | Nov 15, 2003 | WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE

Posted on 11/16/2003 3:34:42 PM PST by amdgmary

Judge calls Terri's Law intrusive

As the judge hints at striking down the law, players on both sides air their messages to local and national audiences.

By WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE, Times Staff Writer Published November 15, 2003

CLEARWATER - A judge Friday harshly criticized Terri's Law as a violation of Terri Schiavo's constitutional right to make her own medical decisions.

"Mrs. Schiavo, along with every other citizen of this state, has the right to be left alone in his or her private life by this state's government," said Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge Douglas Baird.

The law "unquestionably interfered with and intruded upon (Mrs. Schiavo's) constitutional right of privacy," he said.

His remarks came during a hearing on a lawsuit, filed by Mrs. Schiavo's husband, challenging Terri's Law. Baird cautioned that he has not decided whether he ultimately will declare the law unconstitutional.

But in his ruling Friday, he ordered lawyers for Gov. Jeb Bush to quickly submit legal arguments defending the law, suggesting he is poised to strike it down unless Bush lawyers can change his mind.

After the hearing, the legal and public relations battle over the right-to-die case continued:

Mrs. Schiavo's mother, Mary Schindler, appeared via satellite on the Oprah Winfrey Show on Friday with Mrs. Schiavo's brother and sister to say Mrs. Schiavo isn't brain-dead.

Attorney George Felos, representing Mrs. Schiavo's husband, Michael Schiavo, debated the case at the Tiger Bay Club of Tampa with the head of a disability rights group.

Bush met with a guardian ad litem, whose appointment in the case was mandated by Terri's Law. But Bush refused to release details of the meeting.

Terri's Law, adopted by state lawmakers on Oct. 21, allowed Bush to force doctors to reinsert Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube after she went six days without food and water. The law has forced a constitutional showdown between Bush and the courts.

Any ruling by Baird is certain to be appealed, eventually to the Florida Supreme Court.

Baird, a registered Republican, said six years of litigation and appeal have determined that Mrs. Schiavo did not want to be kept alive by artificial means.

"Each hour, each day, each week that goes by since the governor required the reinsertion of her artificial (life) support, Mrs. Schiavo is being prevented from exercising her constitutionally guaranteed and judicially confirmed desire to be free of a continued existence by life-prolonging procedures," Baird said.

Mrs. Schiavo "should not be forced to receive unwanted life-prolonging procedures for one day more than is reasonably necessary to resolve the legal issue of the state's authority to intrude into her private medical decisions," Baird said.

When Felos filed the lawsuit on Oct. 21, Baird said a "strong legal basis" existed to issue an immediate temporary injunction to block the "presumptively unconstitutional legislation and executive action."

But the judge said he declined to immediately act "in deference to the other two branches of government" so they might file legal briefs defending the law.

Baird's order left little doubt the governor may face a difficult legal battle defending the law.

"We're obviously very pleased," said Felos, who was surprised by the directness of the judge's words at a brief hearing and in a later order. "I really hope the governor takes some time to consider the remarks of the court and abandon the game of procedural delay."

Howard Simon, executive director of the ACLU of Florida, a group working with Felos on the suit, called Baird's ruling "as strongly worded a rebuke of the governor that one could imagine."

Jill Bratina, Bush's spokeswoman, said the governor's lawyers filed an appeal Friday with the 2nd District Court of Appeal, objecting to Baird's refusal to halt proceedings in the lawsuit.

"We still believe everyone involved in this case ought to abide by legal rules to ensure an orderly process resulting in a decision that fully considers all relevant facts, rather than a rush to judgment that serves no one well," Bratina said in a statement. "This case has life or death consequences, and mistakes are not correctable."

Bush's lawyers asked Baird to dismiss Michael Schiavo's challenge of Terri's Law on procedural grounds last week. Baird refused.

Bush then appealed that decision to the 2nd District Court of Appeal, and the lawsuit before Baird was put on automatic hold until that appeal was decided.

But Baird said Friday that there was no compelling state interest to freeze proceedings and ordered the state to submit legal arguments by Monday, allowing the lawsuit to proceed even as appeals are pending.

Mrs. Schiavo, who is severely brain damaged, has been kept alive by a feeding tube for more than 13 years. Many doctors say she is in a persistent vegetative state and cannot recover. Her parents disagree with that diagnosis.

In the Oprah appearance, Mary Schindler said she remains convinced her daughter still has consciousness.

"She changes from day to day," Schindler said after viewers were shown videos of Mrs. Schiavo. "She cries. She laughs. She follows me around the room. She laughs at her dad's jokes."

At Tiger Bay, Felos criticized Florida lawmakers for their intervention in the Schiavo case "without the Legislature even bothering to read the judicial opinions."

He said the governor's stay, issued on "on whim, on caprice," flouted the Constitution and violated the doctrine of the separation of powers. It was "a frightening action in a free society."

Felos debated a representative of Not Dead Yet, a disability rights group that objects to Mrs. Schiavo's life being ended.

Diane Coleman, president of Not Dead Yet, criticized "the medical killing of people who didn't ask for it." She bemoaned what she characterized as a notion among bioethicists that "the risk of error should be reversed to favor death over life" in disputed cases.

An appearance on Larry King Live by Mrs. Schiavo's parents was canceled Friday by show producers. A family spokeswoman said they hoped a new date could be scheduled soon.

- Times staff writers Christopher Goffard and Alisa Ulferts contributed to this report, which includes information from the Associated Press.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: govjebbush; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrislaw

1 posted on 11/16/2003 3:34:42 PM PST by amdgmary
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To: amdgmary
Fortunately, another judge reinstituted the stay that Judge Baird lifted. Here: Court Issues New Stay in Schiavo Case
2 posted on 11/16/2003 3:38:34 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: amdgmary
IMO it isn't a matter of Terri's privacy being violated. He doesn't know what Terri would want. It's matter of dignity and her right to live. She is entitled as a human being to food and water just as much as you and I are.
3 posted on 11/16/2003 3:53:38 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: amdgmary
Another judicial lunatic running around screaming "Freedom" whil issuing orders to kill American citizens absent informed consent.
4 posted on 11/16/2003 3:58:54 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: amdgmary
These judges are so BORING! If she'd made a Living Will or other documentation of a wish to be starved, that would be one thing, but to talk about HER wishes, HER rights, HER privacy, when everything is being pushed by her de-facto ex-husband, is just IGNORANT.

Pardon my capitals, but it's totally creepy to have judges this DUMB.
5 posted on 11/16/2003 3:59:04 PM PST by Tax-chick (Where am I? Who are all these kids, and why are they calling me Mom?)
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To: amdgmary
You know, the judge is absolutely right. It should be ordered that Terri recieve all the treatment and rehabilitation possible in order for her to appear in court and able to take the stand to tell the world if she wants MS to kill her or not.
6 posted on 11/16/2003 3:59:25 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: amdgmary
A judge Friday harshly criticized Terri's Law as a violation of Terri Schiavo's constitutional right to make her own medical decisions.

Since, as others have noted, we only have the word of Terri's ex for her supposed desire to die, and since he clearly has an axe of his own to grind here, this comment serves as evidence that it is Judge Baird who is brain dead.

I would never vote to deny him sustenance, however. But someone should be making a list of these moral imbeciles in robes so that at an appropriate moment we can institute a recall. These men need to find other employment. They are not fit for the offices they hold.

7 posted on 11/16/2003 5:05:46 PM PST by marron
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To: jwalsh07
Sigh. I fear you miss the point. This case is not about privacy. It is not about "living wills" or the "right to die".

It is about somethig far, far more important than mere life or death.

It is about judicial supremacy.

That is why Terri's law must - and will be - overturned. Nothing must stand athwart the will of the black-robed tyrants.

8 posted on 11/16/2003 5:21:24 PM PST by John Locke
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To: amdgmary
"Mrs. Schiavo, along with every other citizen of this state, has the right to be left alone in his or her private life by this state's government," said Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge Douglas Baird.

Baird should be impeached, removed from office, and never collect another paycheck from the public purse. He should have responsiblity for taking out his trash each week like any other citizen.

9 posted on 11/16/2003 6:32:45 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: amdgmary
The law "unquestionably interfered with and intruded upon (Mrs. Schiavo's) constitutional right of privacy," he said.

Baird cautioned that he has not decided whether he ultimately will declare the law unconstitutional

This sure sounds unbiased to me, doesn't it to you? /sarcasm>

10 posted on 11/16/2003 6:39:17 PM PST by trussell (PRAYER WORKS!!)
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To: amdgmary
The law "unquestionably interfered with and intruded upon (Mrs. Schiavo's) constitutional right of privacy," he said.

Judge Baird, would you please point out where in the Constitution I can locate this right to privacy you refer to? Did I miss a Constitutional Ammendment? We are talking about the United States Constitution, aren't we?

11 posted on 11/16/2003 6:49:43 PM PST by auboy (I'm out here on the front lines, sleep in peace tonight–American Soldier–Toby Keith, Chuck Cannon)
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To: amdgmary
Each hour, each day, each week that goes by since the governor required the reinsertion of her artificial (life) support, Mrs. Schiavo is being prevented from exercising her constitutionally guaranteed and judicially confirmed desire to be free of a continued existence by life-prolonging procedures," Baird said

Based on hearsay evidence of someone and his cronies who has every reason to lie or misrepresent her true wishes in order to achieve the desired outcome, if they even were known.

If there were explicit written directives, I would concede that the judge was ruling correctly, even if I didn't personally like it. Since there are no explicit written directives, the judge is skating on very thin ice.

Earth to judge: Don't you think it is just a teeny weeny bit odd that these wishes weren't remembered until years later and the money was in the bank?

Who authorized the feeding tube in the first place and why? If these were Terri's true wishes, why the malpractice lawsuit where for the purposes of getting some big bucks, it must be assumed that they at least wanted her to live long enough to guarantee receiving money? Did her wishes matter then? Noooooooooo.

Money does talk and what it says stinks to high heaven in this case.

Methinks these judges need a course in common sense and logic.

12 posted on 11/16/2003 6:52:38 PM PST by Aliska
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To: amdgmary
Scott Peterson is an idiot. He could have enlisted the ACLU on his side like Michael Schiavo has done, and have the state help him kill his wife.
13 posted on 11/16/2003 7:13:04 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: af_vet_1981
Baird should be impeached, removed from office, and never collect another paycheck from the public purse. He should have responsiblity for taking out his trash each week like any other citizen.


Did you know that "Judge" Baird is a member of the Republican Party of FL? And we are not supposed to speak ill of another Republican??? Sometimes partisanship asks just too, too much, doesn't it!!!!!!
14 posted on 11/16/2003 8:09:00 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Tax-chick
These judges are anything but DUMB -- DIABOLICAL is the more correct adjective, isn't it?
15 posted on 11/16/2003 8:09:51 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: John Locke
Yes, this is all about judicial tyranny, whether in AL with now former Judge Moore or in FL with a poor Medicaid recipient who is treated like trash by the state.
16 posted on 11/16/2003 8:11:24 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: amdgmary
Baird, a registered Republican, said six years of litigation and appeal have determined that Mrs. Schiavo did not want to be kept alive by artificial means.

Like most lawyers he refers to admit that anything is beyond the competence of the courts. This damnable dogma of judicial supremacy.

17 posted on 11/16/2003 8:33:00 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: Theodore R.
Judges are not supposed to be political partisans. They should be impeached and removed from office for undermining the law and common decency.
18 posted on 11/17/2003 5:37:27 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
Funny a judge can come out and publically say this and deny the contenet of his intentions, but in Terris case they are willing to kill her because of "hearsay".
19 posted on 11/24/2003 7:00:03 AM PST by lilypad
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