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It's Certainly A Thrill: 'Sgt. Pepper' Is Best Album (Better than the White Album?!)
usa today ^ | 11-17-03

Posted on 11/17/2003 2:21:38 PM PST by steppenwolffe

To everyone's complete lack of surprise, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band has been anointed the best album ever in a new Rolling Stone poll.

The Beatles' consecrated 1967 classic tops ''The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time,'' a collector's issue on stands Friday. Though typically the odds-on favorite for such rankings, Sgt. Pepper wasn't a slam-dunk.

''There was a horse race,'' says Rolling Stone music editor Joe Levy. ''Early on, any number of albums in the top 10 were in the lead. The final result is no shock, but there's a reason for that. The Beatles, after all, were the most important and innovative rock group in the world. And Sgt. Pepper arguably set the tone for what an album could be.''

The Beatles have four albums in the top 10. Predictably, the list is weighted toward testosterone-fueled vintage rock. The top solo female is Joni Mitchell, whose 1971 Blue is No. 30.

The newest entry is this year's Elephant by the White Stripes, landing at No. 390. The most current disc in the top 20 is Nirvana's 1991 breakthrough, Nevermind. Recent albums by Coldplay and The Strokes also made the cut, as did all three Eminem releases and a wide range of hip-hop.

''A classic record proves itself over time,'' Levy says, ''so it's gratifying and surprising to see so many newer records on the list, considering they're competing against such beloved and titanic records as Rubber Soul and Dusty in Memphis.''

Rolling Stone asked musicians, critics, historians and key industry figures to rank their 50 favorites. The 273 participants included Beck, U2's The Edge, Jackson Browne, Art Garfunkel, Missy Elliott and members of Red Hot Chili Peppers, Metallica, Linkin Park and The Doors. The Ernst & Young accounting firm devised a point system to weight votes for 1,600 submitted titles.

Voters were invited to identify favorites from any period or genre, allowing a smattering of country (Johnny Cash), jazz (Miles Davis) and seminal blues (Howlin' Wolf). The list also accommodates greatest hits collections and live recordings; four James Brown picks include two sets of hits and Live at the Apollo (1963). Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Hank Williams, The Drifters and Loretta Lynn, who flourished during the era of 45s, are represented only by hits compilations.

''Artists whose best works were singles are not going to be well represented,'' Levy notes. For example, he adds, ''Disco is under-represented because it's a singles-driven genre.''


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To: IowaHawk
LOL....You RULE, Hawk.

(Lift your lighter high)

141 posted on 11/17/2003 4:42:31 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Skooz
Better lyrics than the Steve Miller band. I may not be the walrus, but I know bad poetry when I read it.
142 posted on 11/17/2003 4:43:17 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude
So do I. And that ain't it.
143 posted on 11/17/2003 4:44:06 PM PST by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: steppenwolffe
I had "Dark Side" on eight track tape.

So did I. It sold me on cassettes, because three of the four switch points where it shifted tracks interrupted songs.

144 posted on 11/17/2003 4:45:16 PM PST by Aeronaut (In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
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To: eddie willers
I think Bob Dylan's three mid-60's masterpieces (Bring it all Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde on Blonde) were more influencial than anything the Beatles released, and Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison have admitted as much. Bob was the first to combine poetry with rock and roll (in 1965).....a truly revolutionary msucial accomplishment. Elvis, Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, etc. created the bare bones of rock and roll, but Dylan (and to a lesser extent the Beatles) brought it to maturity.

(As a side note, it's quite false to classify Dylan as an "anti-war protest singer," especially since only 2 of his 30+ albums could be accurately classified in that genre, and both were released before out involvement in Vietnam. He's simply a rock and roller with a poetic genius).

145 posted on 11/17/2003 4:47:20 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: AmishDude
If you like lyrics so much, you must be the world's biggest Bob Dylan fan.
146 posted on 11/17/2003 4:47:46 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: republicofdavis
Yes. Very slowly now. Boston, a band not known for its lyrics, created the best album ever. There are many bands with better lyricists that did not compile a single album that rises to that level.

The Beatles' work has not aged well in part because their innovations are not innovative anymore and in part because their lyrics do not appeal to a generation that is not currently high on LSD.

147 posted on 11/17/2003 4:48:06 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: TheBigB; steppenwolffe; nothingnew; FreeManWhoCan; Lancey Howard; Skooz
The Floyd fans out there might be interested in something I picked up a few months ago. It's called "Us And Them - Symphonic Pink Floyd". It's performed by the London Philharmonic and is pretty excellent stuff. You haven't heard "The Great Gig In The Sky" until you've heard it with a violin as the 'vocalist'.

Judging from the other comments on this thread, we have quite a diversity of opinions about what makes great rock and roll, if not what makes great music in general. Personally, I like a bit of just about everything but disco and its variants. When I set my mp3's playing randomly, I can hear Count Basie, The Rolling Stones, Anonymous 4, Pink Floyd, Beethoven, Ella Fitzgerald, The Cars, and the The Sons of the Pioneers in succession. Having ripped every disk I have (vinyl and CD), I just love having all this stuff right here in one place where I can just have my player run for days on end without repeating a turn. Isn't technology wonderful?

148 posted on 11/17/2003 4:48:42 PM PST by zeugma (If you eat a live toad first thing in the morning, nothing worse will happen all day.)
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To: AmishDude
"I am the Walrus"

When this song was written it was supposed to be a bunch of nothing put together. The Beatles even made this song work. The mere fact that millions of people were asking, "what in the hell is this song about?", "what is he saying?", etc, is exactly what Lennon wanted.

30 years later and people still want to know who the WALRUS is.
149 posted on 11/17/2003 4:48:50 PM PST by theelephantway
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To: eddie willers
Raise your goblet to the gods of RAWWWWWK





150 posted on 11/17/2003 4:49:02 PM PST by IowaHawk
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To: steppenwolffe
Will somebody finally kill off that damn "Astral Weeks"? I've been reading these facking lists for 25 years and that stupid overrated obscurity is ALWAYS on it. (disclaimer: I've owned it for years, I know it front to back; it's OK, but come ON.)

No one I knew growing up ever owned this album, much less ever heard it, much less ever loved it. Just because it reminds Dave Marsh or Greil Marcus or whoever about some long-lost girlfriend in 1968 doesn't compete against the immense impact and fascination of, say, "Dark Side of the Moon", "The Doors", "Led Zeppelin IV", etc.
151 posted on 11/17/2003 4:49:12 PM PST by Jhensy
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To: Mr. Mojo
You have to include Blood on the Tracks as well. Another masterpiece.
152 posted on 11/17/2003 4:50:18 PM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: eddie willers
Yep....I'm saying without them, Rock and Roll would have never have matured into "ROCK", there would have been no Who, Stones, Traffic, or Steely Dan etc.

Oooh, I'd love to hear Jagger or Townshend say they wouldn't have made the music they did without the Beatles.

The good stuff follows a straight line from Memphis TN and Muscle Shoals AL to Sun Records and The Rolling Stones; and from blues artists like Robert Johnson and Muddy Waters to Led Zeppelin and heavy metal. Do you think the Yardbirds got more influence from the Beatles? Or did they get it from guitar greats Albert King, Howlin Wolf, Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry, etc.?

And I'd love to see musical lines of influence drawn from the Beatles to Traffic. The idea of it baffles me...it sounds almost silly.

153 posted on 11/17/2003 4:50:18 PM PST by Petronski (Everybody calm down . . . eat some fruit or something.)
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To: Jhensy
LOL!

Great post!
154 posted on 11/17/2003 4:51:00 PM PST by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: eddie willers
Dylan could be singing in Russian for all I know.
155 posted on 11/17/2003 4:51:27 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: eddie willers
Didn't Elvis release Blue Moon of Kentucky first, or was that just a demo?
156 posted on 11/17/2003 4:51:59 PM PST by Petronski (Everybody calm down . . . eat some fruit or something.)
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To: Fresh Wind
I concur, Blood on the Tracks is absolutely amazing. But I was talking about the period in which Dylan created the style of music in question ('65-'66), and Blood was released in '74. A list of great Dylan albums would be a long list.
157 posted on 11/17/2003 4:53:02 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: theelephantway
When this song was written it was supposed to be a bunch of nothing put together.

Seinfeld for the 1970's, eh?

158 posted on 11/17/2003 4:53:05 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Mr. Mojo
LOL...we bring up Dylan at the same time.

Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison have admitted as much.

And they convinced him to "Go Electric".

No doubt about it, the two put the blood in the water and much greater music flowed from the well. (I LOVE mixing metaphors).

BTW...speaking of Dylan, I consider The Band (based on their first two albums) to be second only to The Beatles.

159 posted on 11/17/2003 4:53:42 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Mr. Mojo
My favorite Dylan album was "Desire." To this day, it gives me the chills.
160 posted on 11/17/2003 4:53:57 PM PST by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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