NYT: F.B.I. Scrutinizes Antiwar Rallies

The NYT ^ | Nov. 23, 2003 | ERIC LICHTBLAU

[FreedomPoster]

Hey, I'm ecstatic to have a bigger version of the pic. I'll throw it up on my fotki space later so I'll have quick access to it. I think that pic should get the widest possible exposure.

[dsc]

"The rats and communists will be the first ones to scream when some terrorist releases a bomb in their midst"

Would releasing a bomb in the midst of rats and communists be terrorism?

[Jeff Chandler]

it has a very serious chilling effect on peaceful demonstration

Everything seems to have a "chilling effect" on the left. Somebody buy them sweaters, already.

[sdk7x7]

It's very simple. If what the protestors do is legal, let 'em do it. If it's illegal, stop them, and use whatever force is necessary. Once they start throwing deadly objects like rocks, I think the "rubber" in "rubber bullets" can be abandoned.

-sdk

[Travis McGee]

Masked traitor, giving aid and comfort to our terrorist enemies in wartime.

Hang him.

[Travis McGee]

Just as a "friendly reminder" to the traitors and domestic enemies in our midst:

this is what we used to do to traitors in wartime.

It's time to take the gloves off and bring back the practice of hanging traitors.

We're in a war.

[RandallFlagg]

For some reason, I think that I should put this link in here for y'all..

[Travis McGee]

Look what I found when I googled up KGB funding of the VN antiwar movement. This was the first of dozens of hits.

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To understand what really happened we should consider the statements of Col. Stanislav Lunev, a high-ranking Russian defector to the United States. Lunev worked for the GRU, which is the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Soviet (now Russian) General Staff. According to Lunev, the GRU believed itself responsible for North Vietnam's final victory. In Lunev's book, "Through the Eyes of the Enemy," he says that his GRU instructors and superiors would not directly claim credit, but "they strongly implied that the GRU was responsible for the Vietnamese success."

How was this success supposedly achieved?

According to Lunev, the GRU and KGB "helped to fund just about every antiwar movement and organization in America and abroad." This funding, said Lunev, was provided "via undercover operatives or front organizations." More amazing still, Lunev claims that the GRU and KGB "had a larger budget for antiwar propaganda in the United States than it did for economic and military support of the Vietnamese."

In other words, Russia's antiwar propaganda campaign against the American effort in Vietnam had cost the Kremlin over $1 billion. And look how well it worked. As Lunev recounts in his book, "it was a hugely successful campaign and well worth the cost. The antiwar sentiment created an incredible momentum that greatly weakened the U.S. military."

In other words, U.S. military victories were negated by communist propaganda victories in the United States. While the communists were being slaughtered in futile offensive attacks against Vietnam, the American people were being systematically convinced that the war was hopeless. Allied victories were overshadowed by intensive GRU-KGB propaganda. In fact, the United States was almost destabilized by Russian propaganda.

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I wonder who is filling the KGB's shoes today? The Saudis? George Soros? The Chinese?

[RandallFlagg]

Great job!
Now if we could find some concrete links as to who's funding moveon.org......

[Travis McGee]

My money would be on George Soros, via some "foundations" as cutouts.

[FreedomPoster]

With those posts, it dawns on me that this is a CWII thread.

And yes, that would be appropriate.

[Vigilantcitizen]

"It's time to take the gloves off and bring back the practice of hanging traitors."

"We're at war."

We should start with klintoon, and work our way down.

[mo]

when do you think they'll start scrutinizing the NYT?!!

[archy]

With those posts, it dawns on me that this is a CWII thread.

And yes, that would be appropriate.

Concur. CWII ping:!

-archy-/-

[summer]

From Drudge

TIMECNN POLL:

Most Registered Voters Would Choose Bush

Fri Nov 21 2003 19:44:24 ET

New York – If the 2004 Presidential election was held today, registered voters surveyed for TIME/CNN would choose President George W. Bush over any of the declared Democratic candidates.

In a direct run against Bush, Gen. Wesley Clark fares the best among registered voters (Clark 42%, Bush 49%), closely followed by Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry (Kerry 41%, Bush 49%).

Bush would beat any of three other Democrats, 52 percent to 39 percent, in a direct match: Missouri Rep. Dick Gephardt, Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman, or Vermont Gov. Howard Dean. Against Bush, North Carolina Sen. John Edwards would lose, 38 percent to 52 percent.

When registered Democrats are asked which Democratic presidential nominee they would vote for, Dean edges out Clark 14 percent to 12 percent, followed Lieberman (11%), Kerry (9%), Gephardt (6%), then Edwards and the Rev. Al Sharpton (5%).

The TIME/CNN Poll, conducted November 18-19, 2003 by HarrisInteractive, surveyed 1,330 registered voters by telephone. The margin of error is +/-2.7% points for registered voters, and +/-4.7% for Democratic voters surveyed for TIME/CNN.

Developing...

[Eldorado431]

Interesting Information I have Read in the Book Seven Myths of Gun Control. In 1994 Bill Commie Clinton started babbling along with the Enough is Enough Topic. Bill the Commie promoted a number of extreme measures, including his new plan for allowing police to conduct random Gun searches in public housing projects without warrants. Naturally this is a case of Flagrant Violations of those People in question Rights. Not one word about this was found in the NY Times and to the best of my Knowledge neither a word from the ACLU. However, protecting Americans during these so Called Peaceful Demonstrations by the FBI is a Violation of the Commies Rights according to the NY times and the ACLU. Thanks for my Say.

[Stultis]

I started to laugh at your brilliant satire, until it struck me that it's too close to the truth to be all that funny.

[Grampa Dave]

This is an excellent find.

Thanks for finding it, posting it and the ping.

How much of the world wide and USA so called peace movement has been financed by SoreA$$ and the Opecker Princes/Mullahs/Thugs in the past decade after the USSR became history.

How many former KGBers without a job in Russia are working for SoreA$$ and his Opecker buddies to create these anti war/America/Israel groups around the world?

The photos from the recent so called peace protest in London showed expensive and professional placards, handouts, and banners stacked up in advance for the renta mob in London. That was well financed and organized. Most of these renta protestors are so drugged out, they are incapable of spelling War let along Peace.

[Travis McGee]

I hope we don't have to wait until 20 years later to find out where the money is coming from.

We need to trace the money NOW so that we can indict the pro-terrorist front groups and persons NOW.

[Teacher317]

If protesters aren't doing something wrong, they have nothing to fear from the Feds.

I'm not on the side of the anti-war nutcakes, but DAMN I despise this horrific "logic".

(Gee, let's put cobras in the child's bed... as long as he doesn't react, he has nothing to fear, right?)