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U.S. soldier accused of beating Iraqi prisoners says, `It is war'
SFgate ^ | (11-25) 10:26 PST PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- | DAVID B. CARUSO

Posted on 11/26/2003 9:53:19 AM PST by ConservativeMan55

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

U.S. soldier accused of beating Iraqi prisoners says, `It is war'

One of four American MPs charged with beating prisoners of war at a detention camp in Iraq said Tuesday: "We were doing our jobs. ... It is war. It is not back home where everybody is safe."


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beating; iraq; mp; police; pow; staff; war
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To: ConservativeMan55
I think I smell a rat.......a big female rat........she's free, home and out of the service (alledged deal) and her fellow MP's are still under the legal gun for mistreating the enemy ?

Something ain't quite right here.....:o) Gonna have to wait for more of this story to make a sound decision. BTW has anyone heard of Lt Col West's situation ?

Stay Safe !

181 posted on 11/26/2003 2:16:35 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: r9etb

http://www.mnsnews.org/articles/1_ds_219064.asp


All say they acted in self-defense and used minimum force to subdue unruly prisoners who had attacked them. The soldiers also said conditions at Camp Bucca were chaotic and that guards were being assaulted by prisoners daily.
182 posted on 11/26/2003 2:21:56 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: ConservativeMan55
BUMP!
183 posted on 11/26/2003 2:22:26 PM PST by tubavil
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To: Squantos
she's free, home and out of the service (alledged deal) and her fellow MP's are still under the legal gun for mistreating the enemy

She chose to receive separation and demotion. The others chose the court martial. As I read it they all had the same choice to make as she did.

184 posted on 11/26/2003 2:29:07 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: Holly_P
That's what the article says......gonna follow it for a few days and see.

Hope ya have a great Thanksgiving Holly. Stay Safe !

185 posted on 11/26/2003 2:40:01 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: MPJackal
First of all I'm entitled to my opinion, whether I'm posting an opinion or a fact is moot, who cares?

Second, I have first hand familiarity with the UCMJ, following orders, and the need for discipline.

These soldiers, if actually guilty of anything, don't deserve court marshall action or dishonorable discharge from the military. Good ol' Article 15 action is all this story warrants.

So what if they whacked around a couple of Iraqi POWs? I don't care, and while I won't pretend to represent the opinions of other people, I will guess that the majority of Americans wouldn't care either.

This situation is just another example of namby pamby political correctness run amok.

186 posted on 11/26/2003 3:58:08 PM PST by BeerSwillr
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To: ConservativeMan55
Fellow soldiers testified that the four Pennsylvania reservists punched and kicked prisoners who were being brought to an American camp in southern Iraq on May 12. One prisoner suffered a broken nose.

One soldier said that during the attack, a beaten prisoner was "screaming for his life." Another testified that Edmondson told her that the attack was to "teach the prisoner a lesson on how to treat women."

If she's guilty, she should be punished to the full extent of the law.
Beating POWs is not what we're about.
187 posted on 11/26/2003 8:25:36 PM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: PLMerite
Satellite orbit analyst.
188 posted on 11/27/2003 12:34:20 PM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Okay, that's what I thought.
189 posted on 11/27/2003 1:09:42 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Are you French?

You've solved the mystery! I've been reading through this thread trying to figure out why so many here prefer to give the benefit of the doubt to terrorists over American soldiers. Now, I see what has happened. The French have invaded FR! Everybody, arm yourselves: grab some deodorant cans and air freshener.

190 posted on 11/28/2003 3:24:30 AM PST by jaykay (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: ConservativeMan55
"Fellow soldiers testified that the four Pennsylvania reservists punched and kicked prisoners who were being brought to an American camp in southern Iraq on May 12. One prisoner suffered a broken nose."

Big deal. He'll live! This is war. Amidst all the killing, what's a little ass-whooping, to get the info to save lives.

Sorry but all this pansy, liberal thinking is gonna get a lot of people killed.

What would Saddam have done?

191 posted on 11/28/2003 3:32:08 AM PST by FixitGuy
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To: BeerSwillr
"So what if they whacked around a couple of Iraqi POWs? I don't care, and while I won't pretend to represent the opinions of other people, I will guess that the majority of Americans wouldn't care either.

This situation is just another example of namby pamby political correctness run amok".


The one thing that has become clear in all of this is that the military can not concern itself with what the public thinks. That goes for not caring if a soldier "whacked" a POW around, all the way to pulling out because freedom is expensive in so many ways.
192 posted on 11/29/2003 10:15:51 PM PST by MPJackal (Right makes Might)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I don't see how this could prevent her from becoming a police officer?

It's the equivalent of a felony conviction.

193 posted on 11/29/2003 10:36:34 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: ConservativeMan55
I presume that means IF she is convicted she won't be able to carry a firearm as well?

That is true -- she will not be able to carry a firearm. She has already accepted the equivalent of a conviction. No "if" involved.

194 posted on 11/29/2003 10:46:31 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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